Y2D mods???

[Butch Snyder]

Hi all,

First off, I love my Y2D. best guitar I have ever owned; besides my AL a couple years back. I'm looking for a little more versatility where the pickups are concerned. I love all the positions and tones; however, I'm thinking of adding an on/off switch for the single coil pickup and reconfiguring the 5-way to this type of setup.

Here's the pic of the diagram sans the single coil. I would use the on/off switch to activate/deactivate the single coil. BTW, this is a Seymour Duncan diagram. I know I would have to change wires around to match DiMarzio's color scheme. What do you guys think? Would it be pretty cool or a recipe for disaster. One of the tones I'm after is using the neck hummer, either full or split, with the single coil.

The way everything works is:
Pos 1. Bridge humbucker full
Pos 2. neck & bridge humbuckers together
Pos 3. Neck humbucker
Pos 4. Bridge humbucker & neck (split)
Pos 5. bridge or neck split (depends on which I want to split)

 

[Butch Snyder]

Additional note:

I forgot that I was wanting to install a steel baseplate under the single coil ( for more Tele bridge pickup character) and utilize it my itself.

Hmmm, that might be more difficult...

 

[beej]

Well that wiring won't give you neck HB split or both HBs split. It's tough to have everything in one switching scheme, so you really need to pick and choose what's important.

Another good option is the ASS 5-way switching. Again, doesn't give you either p'up split on it's own but you get two good combos of split neck & bridge which are nice.

Other problem: where are you going to put the toggle for the single coil? Either you use a push/pull (hard to work quickly, mid-song) or you drill for it (re-sale issue).

As far as neck + single coil, it's not a bad sound, but given how close it is to the bridge you're just as good to go with neck + split bridge HB. And if that's ok, then you can stick with the stock wiring and a push/pull pot to split both HBs.

There are other options- the Super Switch will allow you to wire it up pretty much any way you'd like.

 

[Pablo]

Hmm... I'm not really sure I like the options or the switch positions on the 5-way lever.
If modding a Y2D, I'd personally ditch the tone control and add a 3-way toggle in its place, to add the series/split/parallel option for the neck humbucker - a much more versatile (and more logical) setup - without needing to drill extra holes in your beautiful guitar...

Cheers

Eske

P.s.: If you absolutely need a tone control, either add a concentric pot or do it with a push-pull, giving you tone control when pulled and volume when pushed.
Another cool option would be to add a fixed high roll of with a push/pull pot. This setup could give you a no-bull volume control when pushed down and volume with fixed trebble attenuation when pulled.

 

[Sub1 Zero]

Y2D mods? Flat black spraypaint baby

 

[Butch Snyder]

Y2D mods? Flat black spraypaint baby

Not funny....

LOL....

 

[geektard]

Either you use a push/pull (hard to work quickly, mid-song)

Maybe use a push/push pot? Wire it upside-down (up=on, down=off, or something like that...) so the spring in the switch doesn't stay "down" all the time and loose its elasticity.

 

[Butch Snyder]

I removed the control cavity cover last night and found there to be a super switch installed instead of a standard 5-way. That's pretty cool; however, I can wire up a 5-way; but I don't anything about the superswitches.

There was also what looks like a brass plate with a small circle cut for what looks like a 3-way switch that the switch and pots were connected to. It sits against the body. Here's a pic...

 

[geektard]

There was also what looks like a brass plate with a small circle cut for what looks like a 3-way switch that the switch and pots were connected to.

I think that hole is for a toggle switch. Originally Y2D is basically a Morse without the Strat single coil & its switch. If you look at the EBMM stock photo, the 1st gen. Y2D (cream pups) has a small toggle right next to the blade switch just like the original Morse. AFAIK, the blade switch is a 3-way for bridge, neck & Tele single coil, the toggle is to add bridge to the 3-way blade. I bleeb Steve still use that guitar every once in a while.

 

[Butch Snyder]

I kind of think I might want to install a three-way toggle and have it engage the single coil. Maybe like this:

Up - Single coil on by itself (canceling out the humbuckers)
Middle - Single coil off
Down - Single coil added to whatever is selected on the 5-way blade

Since the 5-blade is a super switch, I have a lot more choices.

 

[tommyindelaware]

boring a hole through yer finish & pickguard will require a special bit to prevent damage. (splittting &/or cracking).
& yer resale value will drop ALOT.
please think through carefully......

 

[Butch Snyder]

boring a hole through yer finish & pickguard will require a special bit to prevent damage. (splittting &/or cracking).
& yer resale value will drop ALOT.
please think trough carefully......

I know... However, resale is not an option where this guitar is concerned. It was a gift and I don't sell gifts. That said, I am rethinking drilling. Now that I have seen the super switch, I mught just design a config for what I want using push-pull pots instead...

 

[geektard]

I kind of think I might want to install a three-way toggle and have it engage the single coil......

Since the 5-blade is a super switch, I have a lot more choices.

YES! Two 3-ways is my fav config for HSH but IMO down=bypass, mid=off, up=add, is more logical.

However, your Y2D already has a 5-way, adding a 3-way only give you 2 more options:

Down=bypass=M Redundant, you already have it.
Mid=off=N or NB or B Yep!
Up=add You already have MB, but the toggle does give you 2 extras (NM and NMB) (and, honestly, how often do you use NMB?).

If I were you, I’d probably do something like this:

1) Rearrange the 5-way to N, M, B, NM, “Butch’s Special” (split N, split both H, blower, phase… etc. whatever you want).

2) Push/PUSH the tone to add B to the 5-way.

There, all 7 standards PLUS 1 or 2 (depend on what “Butch’s Special” is) super deluxe bonus custom settings.

And if 9 settings ain’t enough, you still have the volume pot to screw around (push/PULL kill on vol is pretty cool)!