y2d with luke neck -the dream guitar

[shimi]

As you can see here a lot of people having the dillema between the y2d and luke

y2d really beautifull - amazing & good sound

Luke very boring look....... but the neck oh oh what a neck , probably the most confortable out there according to people review which are saying the same thing


its about time that Musicman will make a project for their loyalty clients

SM y2d body + pickups & Luke neck with option to put EVH pickups for those who dont want the sm pickups........

after all its the same company same factory same family .......it shouldnt be difficult

give your client the best

 

[Colin]

Have you played a y2d? I didn't have a dilemma. The only dilemma I face is explaining why I want an EBMM so soon after the last one.

 

[shimi]

Hi Colin

I didnt talk about you im talking generaly , many people saying the same things about the Luke neck - amzingly comfortable but the guitar colour / look very simple & boring also you can see that not so many people are happy with those pickups and they are talking about replacing them.......

y2d a piece of beauty no one talks about changing pickups there ......and this is not only in MM forum you can read review outside MM forum and its quite the same

so a combination between those two will satisfy a lot of clients out there

 

[Jonny Dubai]

Axis body with y2d pup config in pink for me.

Jonny

 

[Roubster]

This will most DEFINATLY not happen buddy. This has been talked about before, about custom work. But especially it wouldnt happen on the artist signature guitars, because they have the specs the ARTISTS want on THEIR guitars. The only thing you can do is buy both and change the necks and than sell the LUKE with that other neck somehow, and than buy some different pups. I personally love the characteristics of each model that EBMM make. Some are not exactly for me, but that's why they have a pretty huge variety in the first place. Just thought I would make this clear .
BTW, the LUKE is a freakin COOL lookin guitar dude and i sounds even better .

 

[shimi]

This will most DEFINATLY not happen buddy. This has been talked about before, about custom work. But especially it wouldnt happen on the artist signature guitars, because they have the specs the ARTISTS want on THEIR guitars. The only thing you can do is buy both and change the necks and than sell the LUKE with that other neck somehow, and than buy some different pups. I personally love the characteristics of each model that EBMM make. Some are not exactly for me, but that's why they have a pretty huge variety in the first place. Just thought I would make this clear .
BTW, the LUKE is a freakin COOL lookin guitar dude and i sounds even better .

O.K but because it is a mix it isnt have to bother the artist, the company can give it a

new name like super Sillouhete special edition 06

and let that beast run , why not ??? we are talking here about pure business ,

the interest of the company is to sell , and if the clients are happy & they are

buying whats wrong in that ???

btw whats so cool in the luke model looks ???

the second option that you mentioned is also possible but more clumsy

 

[Roubster]

Well I have no problems with the idea you are talking about, infact I think it would be cool as well. However ultimately it is up to the EBMM team to come up with the new things based on what is popular in their current line up. And I dont think many people are UNhappy with the models that are out now. You already have literraly about 1000 different options on the guitars overall. Just in the recent years they came out with the super cool Y2D which you can have in 3 brand new colors that are exclusive to that model, and the 20th anniversary Silo just came out as well, and you also have the 06 limited edition option on all the instruments. You can even get an Albert lee model with a Rosewood board which has NOT been done before at all and gold hardware. Might not be for everyone, but you can get the idea of how hard they are working to get new things out there. And people are buying the heck out of these guitars that are out now based on what I've heard/read after this past NAMM show.
And the Luke is just cool to ME, because it looks really sleek and sexy with those nice smooth contours with the all black EMGs without any coils showing, and the trem is a unique design as well. That is why I personlly like the look, so I'm not saying you SHOULD. But that's why I said that there is other models out there that would suit you better for your own taste. But if you want a "custom' guitar than I guess your best bet will be to go with Carvin or somethin like that. But I bet you that you will love one of these EB guitars without any changes to them. Try them all out and see .

 

[darchirnoj]

Luke looks boring? Huh? I personally think it looks cool; asthetically pleasing in a mild sort of way. Then again, I'm not one to try to stare in awe of a guitar while I'm playing it, especially if it plays like a luke
-darchirnoj

 

[shimi]

Well I have no problems with the idea you are talking about, infact I think it would be cool as well. However ultimately it is up to the EBMM team to come up with the new things based on what is popular in their current line up. And I dont think many people are UNhappy with the models that are out now. You already have literraly about 1000 different options on the guitars overall. Just in the recent years they came out with the super cool Y2D which you can have in 3 brand new colors that are exclusive to that model, and the 20th anniversary Silo just came out as well, and you also have the 06 limited edition option on all the instruments. You can even get an Albert lee model with a Rosewood board which has NOT been done before at all and gold hardware. Might not be for everyone, but you can get the idea of how hard they are working to get new things out there. And people are buying the heck out of these guitars that are out now based on what I've heard/read after this past NAMM show.
And the Luke is just cool to ME, because it looks really sleek and sexy with those nice smooth contours with the all black EMGs without any coils showing, and the trem is a unique design as well. That is why I personlly like the look, so I'm not saying you SHOULD. But that's why I said that there is other models out there that would suit you better for your own taste. But if you want a "custom' guitar than I guess your best bet will be to go with Carvin or somethin like that. But I bet you that you will love one of these EB guitars without any changes to them. Try them all out and see .

o.k there is no argue between us , its a matter of taste ofcourse and its true that mm offering many different style and colors......

but after you see the y2d and its great look you understand that someone invested a lot of thinking about it ...........

but like you said the idea is still good.

 

[Colin]

If you like the neck of the Luke and the body of a Y2D why don't you get a Y2D and have the neck reshaped?

 

[shimi]

Luke looks boring? Huh? I personally think it looks cool; asthetically pleasing in a mild sort of way. Then again, I'm not one to try to stare in awe of a guitar while I'm playing it, especially if it plays like a luke
-darchirnoj

true , but it doesnt change the fact that its great if it looks good & plays luke

 

[shimi]

If you like the neck of the Luke and the body of a Y2D why don't you get a Y2D and have the neck reshaped?

And how im supossed to do that ???

 

[Colin]

And how im supossed to do that ???

take it to a luthier

 

[shimi]

take it to a luthier

those things are best when they are comming out straight from the factory........

they know the spec'....... and all the rest , i wouldnt suggest people start to deal with those things , after all its not a Lego

 

[koogie2k]

Alrighty then.....you want a Y2D with a Luke neck. You were told to get the neck re-shaped. Then you say you don't want to mess with the neck because it comes out factory spec'd.....
There are some peeps on here who can do that (re-shape the neck) and are very good at it.

Custom work will NOT....again.....WILL NOT be done. Unless you are an endorsed artist, you will have to pick from the 50 gazillion options available. One off's happen and some are given away and some are put up for auction to benefit the Casey Lee Ball Foundation....which is a great cause by the way.

Every one of us would love for the factory to shut down it's main production to get a one off custom......however, that is not good business sense. Every time they (EBMM) would have to make a custom, it would literally shut down the plant to make that one custom.....problem is, it won't pay the bills, employees or help Big Poppa's golf ball fund.

The artist model guitars are just that. Guitars made to the artist's spec. The artist wants to be able to pull one off the shelf and feel at home. Again, ARTIST SPEC.

Luke is boring?!?! I think not. Those are some great playing guitars.....something you play, not look at. Boring, no.....Playability, Yes.

Again, if you like the looks of the Y2D (good choice) and the neck of the Luke (Awesome), get the Y2D and have it re-shaped to the Luke profile which is something that can be done I am sure. It's not rocket science....or is it? NorM?

 

[tommyindelaware]

if u go to the ebmm products page....& look at the (specs)....u will notice that the width of the luke neck at the 22nd fret is smaller than the morse neck. so .........while u can still bolt a luke neck right onto a morse........u will have a gap on each side between the body & the neck. it will work though. i did it one night just to see if it would. but i ended up re-shaping my neck on my morse.
i can tell u right now....that unless u ARE morse........or luke.......re-shaping an exisiting neck is gonna be yer only option.

 

[shimi]

Alrighty then.....you want a Y2D with a Luke neck. You were told to get the neck re-shaped. Then you say you don't want to mess with the neck because it comes out factory spec'd.....
There are some peeps on here who can do that (re-shape the neck) and are very good at it.

Custom work will NOT....again.....WILL NOT be done. Unless you are an endorsed artist, you will have to pick from the 50 gazillion options available. One off's happen and some are given away and some are put up for auction to benefit the Casey Lee Ball Foundation....which is a great cause by the way.

Every one of us would love for the factory to shut down it's main production to get a one off custom......however, that is not good business sense. Every time they (EBMM) would have to make a custom, it would literally shut down the plant to make that one custom.....problem is, it won't pay the bills, employees or help Big Poppa's golf ball fund.

The artist model guitars are just that. Guitars made to the artist's spec. The artist wants to be able to pull one off the shelf and feel at home. Again, ARTIST SPEC.

Luke is boring?!?! I think not. Those are some great playing guitars.....something you play, not look at. Boring, no.....Playability, Yes.

Again, if you like the looks of the Y2D (good choice) and the neck of the Luke (Awesome), get the Y2D and have it re-shaped to the Luke profile which is something that can be done I am sure. It's not rocket science....or is it? NorM?

who said that its a custom? , they can put it in as a normal line cause they are using allready those spec', nothing is new here

 

[shimi]

if u go to the ebmm products page....& look at the (specs)....u will notice that the width of the luke neck at the 22nd fret is smaller than the morse neck. so .........while u can still bolt a luke neck right onto a morse........u will have a gap on each side between the body & the neck. it will work though. i did it one night just to see if it would. but i ended up re-shaping my neck on my morse.
i can tell u right now....that unless u ARE morse........or luke.......re-shaping an exisiting neck is gonna be yer only option.

well i learned that you dont have to be Morse or Luke ........you just need to have the cash and the problem solved , especially in the U.S .......



but again its not personally , if many people thinks the same which means

luke -neck
y2d - body

then its easy to the company to pic up the glove .........

 

[shimi]

Alrighty then.....you want a Y2D with a Luke neck. You were told to get the neck re-shaped. Then you say you don't want to mess with the neck because it comes out factory spec'd.....
There are some peeps on here who can do that (re-shape the neck) and are very good at it.

Custom work will NOT....again.....WILL NOT be done. Unless you are an endorsed artist, you will have to pick from the 50 gazillion options available. One off's happen and some are given away and some are put up for auction to benefit the Casey Lee Ball Foundation....which is a great cause by the way.

Every one of us would love for the factory to shut down it's main production to get a one off custom......however, that is not good business sense. Every time they (EBMM) would have to make a custom, it would literally shut down the plant to make that one custom.....problem is, it won't pay the bills, employees or help Big Poppa's golf ball fund.

The artist model guitars are just that. Guitars made to the artist's spec. The artist wants to be able to pull one off the shelf and feel at home. Again, ARTIST SPEC.

Luke is boring?!?! I think not. Those are some great playing guitars.....something you play, not look at. Boring, no.....Playability, Yes.

Again, if you like the looks of the Y2D (good choice) and the neck of the Luke (Awesome), get the Y2D and have it re-shaped to the Luke profile which is something that can be done I am sure. It's not rocket science....or is it? NorM?

true its made for the artist but somehow the artist model selled as much as non artist guitar........
which means that the company set down with the artist to build guitar for what ??? for publishing it and selling it after by using the artist name .

 

[koogie2k]

As tommyindelaware stated, "Putting a Luke Neck on a Morse body will leave a gap." It will work, however, it will not be up to standard...meaning the gap. I personally know, EBMM will not let the guitar leave the factory that way. So, they would have to re-do the body of the Morse to compensate for the Luke neck. That would be another program, shutting down the factory, to pump out this body to test fit a Luke neck, make sure it is up to EBMM standards and so on. NOT cost effective. Again, Tommy re-shaped his morse neck and that is the most viable option. In Amerca, money talks....sure. But, you have to have the company that makes that particular brand bite. It will not happen here.

The guitars built for the artists are first and foremost for the endorsed artists. This is a no brainer. One of the big reasons artist models sells so well, it is because of the artist as peeps like to buy the same guitar as their heroes. However, EBMM makes the "EXACT" model for the artist with the consumer (us, the customer) having to like those specs. Who am I to tell Steve Morse that he needs to change to a LUKE neck? It simply will not be beneficial to start changing necks around at the factory....again, a gap will certainly not please most customers and will look like garbage....and then Big Poppa will have to deal with the outcry from people who are never satisfied. Believe me, the crying like the Mississippi river, constantly flowing.....

Simply put, Luke neck on a Y2D body out of SLO will not happen. Again, re-shape a Morse will be your best option.