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Dante

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the point of this thread is to let people define "metal guitar". anything goes, as long as you mean it. no referring to other posts or criticizing. just post what you think a metal guitar is/should be.

it's just supposed to be an outlet for what people expect from a guitar, not a discussion. if you happen not to play metal, but want to tell us what you expect (in any sense of the word) from a metal guitar, let us know on which side of the fence you are.


The Arrogantly Short list:
EMGs, mahog+ebony or ash+something, tone-o-matic/Floyd Rose, awesome cringeworthy shape, hangs almost vertical, flat thin neck with 24 frets, black. or white. or trans black. or ruby! a modified 20th would go a long way for most lead players. or timid headbangers.

the boring ****:
a metal guitar is a guitar with high output humbuckers which sound best going thru really heavy distortion. emgs are my favourite. although a part of me just wants to follow the trend and say that mahogany+ebony with a 81/60 set are the best, listening to jeff loomis (Maple+ASH!!!) makes me realize that alot can be done with any wood and pickup choice.

it should stay in tune extremely well. having a locking trem is a way of having great tuning stability, although a tune-o-matic fixed bridge is my favourite as it's saddles snag the string, which changes the tone, making it "snort" more on the low strings. but if i had to choose a guitar to gig with, without the option of having someone tuning my second guitars, i'd go with the floyd.

metal guitars designed for lead guitarists are more frequently (compared to rhythm players) conservative in design. because of the solos, the guitar hangs higher and spiky ends are avoided. for the rhythm player, different rules apply. the guitar needs to perform well but needs to look the part too. as a rule of thumb: if it makes old people cringe, it's in the right direction. performing isn't just art, it's entertaining as well.

for lead players, anything loosely based around the classic double cut design will work. V shaped guitars are also fret free in most cases. Asymetric Vs lock easilly onto the right leg when standing, pushing the guitar to the left, which allows even better access to the upper frets. double cuts do the same but without the locking, simply resting upon the leg.

other than the V, the X shape(ironically, also pioneered by the same makers of traditionally minded guitars), is also frequently used as a base template for metal guitars. this is my fave, although the original model has severe performance problems. modern variations on these model have been very successful. there are also hybrid models, combining the shape of X and V models.

the guitar should hang close to vertical for the picking hand's sake.

EBMM has 3 different tones of black, 2 whites and 1 silver, trans black and ruby, more than enough to keep most metal fans happy. no need to go there =)
 

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I am 100% a Metal player, and this is my Jam:

-22 Frets and HH or HSS with silent circuit.
-Alder Body with Maple neck and Maple or Ebony Fretboard
-Medium Jumbo Frets, 12" Radius (The flatter ones make it harder for me to grab notes when I'm playing faster which is unusual, from what I understand)
-25.5" Scale Length
-Hardtail
-Traditional Shape (Weird pointy stuff looks childish to me, and I would never be able to take myself seriously if I strapped something like that on)
-BLUE! Or ORANGE!
-Locking Freaking Tuners(Metal kids are notoriously lazy)
-VINTAGE OR MEDIUM OUTPUT PICKUPS are a must for me. They let thick chords ring more CLEARLY than High Output pickups do, and I let my amplifier do all the heavy lifting for me(read as ENGL). Why am I playing Chords in a metal band you say? See the change here at 0:19 and understand the epicness of thick chords and a bad ass melody in metal: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FapZvIKSrx0&feature=related"]YouTube- The Devin Townsend Project - Numbered![/ame]


Essentially: The EBMM Silo Special HSS, or an HH if they made it, in Blue Pearl(which I own w/ Maple Board) OR Desert Gold/FiremistwhateveritwascalledthatlookedawesomebutIwaitedtoodamnlongtobuyaguitarin...


All this said, I am an Atraditional metal kid. I don't look the part, nor act the part, I just play the hell outta the music. I'm a fan of Devin Townsend, John Petrucci, Dave Mustaine, and bands like SikTh, Meshuggah, Strapping Young Lad, as Well As JAZZ and am classically trained.
I also tune to DADGAD and CGCGCE Currently...
I know. I fail at being 'metal'
 
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im going to start my post over, i missed the point of my own thought... which is... worrying.

culturally, a very metal aspect has become that of a 24 fret neck. which i hate.
tonally, the only difference is the position of the neck pickup, and sometimes by extension, the middle pickup.
regardless of fingerboard size, the bridge pickup stays in the same position, and since metal makes very large use of the bridge pickup, this whole culture of metal guitars having 24 frets seems redundant.

in my mind, you're sacrificing tonal versatility for an extra tone's range (2 extra frets if that homonym confused you).

the crux of it for me, is if you have 2 identical guitars in which the bridge pickup rips some metal just how you like it, but one with 22 frets and one with 24, your metal output will be unchanged between the two guitars, but your .. whatever... jazz output will be oh so much better in the 22 fret one.

i guess in conclusion, a metal guitar has a hot bridge pickup, like a dimebucker. other aspects of the guitar such as mahogany, floyd rose, extra jumbo frets all add to this, but number of frets in my opinion doesnt increase metal-potential, just decreases versatility.
 

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my dream Metal guitar would be HH(emg 81 bridge 85 neck) , LUKE neck on a mahogany body something a little larger than the standard luke body, No tone knob Hard-tail
paint job exotic dark looking.
hehe i cant believe the carnage my thread caused haha all good though!
 

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my dream Metal guitar would be HH(emg 81 bridge 85 neck) , LUKE neck on a mahogany body something a little larger than the standard luke body, No tone knob Hard-tail
paint job exotic dark looking.
hehe i cant believe the carnage my thread caused haha all good though!

well, we got 2 options:

- bitch about it!
- buy a jackson!

i'm doing both.
 

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i'm getting an american jacko kelly to go into my arsenal as a live beater. just not sure whether to get a trans black one second hands or a new one in eery dess swirl whatvers.

i own 2 jps, awesome guitars BUT...

edit: dean, that's a caparison...
 

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From a bassist point of view, the answer of this thread is simple:

I've seen rock, metal and progressive bands come and go, some great, some not so great. From the outside looking in, I can tell you its NOT the guitar that makes "metal" but the player himself.

From a musical point of view I've seen so called metal player using whatever instrument they liked, from strats to tele's to even semi Gibson ES335's at the end of the day is what they play and how they play that "maketh" the gig, choice of high end powerful amps, pickups, distortion effects and power chords, searing solos etc etc.

But from the fans and followers point of view the stereotypical perception of a metal player's guitar is of a pointed headstock, scary looking warhammer type of guitar played by a head-banging fool in spandex. (Remember I meant from the fan and follower's point of view)
 

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you almost nailed it. i'm from the spandex killing sort :p

pointy headstock, emgs, sharp body, leather, not spandex! :D

EDIT: as a matter of fact, most shredders like strat type bodies painted to match their leggings.
 

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To me, the ULTIMATE Metal Guitar from EBMM would be a stealth black w/white binding JP7BFR with 27 frets and only ONE DiMarzio Deactivator X in the bridge, and a JP7 trem with an inbuilt tremol-no.

THAT's BRUTALZ!!!!!!!!
 

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Although it's very pretty, my ESP Eclipse II with twin EMG 81's is the most "metal" guitar I've got - currently tuned Drop C.


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EDIT : (Which reminds me - I need to take some more recent "family" photos ! :
The Axis & ASS are gone, and there's a BFR RW Luke, DDII JP6, DDII BFR JP6 and Cherry Burst BFR JP6 to add.)
 
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Mauler

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nice collection you have there Dizzy. I wish I had the coin to have a guitar that was permanently tuned to Drop C (as well as one in Eb, one in drop D, and one in standard). I was thinking of making my JS my half step down guitar, but the Jp6 sounds so fat when it is tuned that way, and the standard heavier gauge strings seem to play a bit easier in this tuning, but it just sings when in standard tuning.

Back on topic, the most metal guitar is the Jem10 in my eyes, or a UV777.
 

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its a guitar perfect for metal
it should be hard as metal
and sounds like metal
heck much better if it is really made of metal
so guitarists can use it to produce raw metal action!!
YEAAAAAAAAAAH!!

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well...
pointy guitars and active pickups :D
 

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i dont really No much about these guitars and dont usually ever post other guitars here But im sure this guitar isnt really designed for pop/country rock??? probably more METAL

Deano, Caparison guitars are sick, sick axes. Joel from Killswitch Engage plays them exclusively...so yes, very metal. I've played a few of them and they're great axes. I think Chris Amott from Arch Enemy played them for a while, too.

I'll give my idea of what a "metal" guitar is:

Rosewood or ebony fretboard
HH or HHH pickup config, but I'll choose DiMarzio D-Activators over EMG's (sorry, fellas, the EMG's are just too sterile for me).
Mahogany or Alder body
Thin, flat neck (I like the JP neck)

And that's pretty much all the criteria I have.
 
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