GC caneled my order for Petrucci Fuschia Sparkle!

[TripHazard]

Agreed pro music have great range but they don’t negotiate and they overprice their inventory. You could buy from project and have it shipped to anywhere in europe with no tax hit

 

[johnnyboogie]

Agreed pro music have great range but they don’t negotiate and they overprice their inventory. You could buy from project and have it shipped to anywhere in europe with no tax hit

I doubt the 'no tax hit' =)

I see that Project Music in Exeter (UK) charges £3500 for a Monarchy Majesty (=4000€). That's way above the US price. And it's totally justified, since they (Project Music, Pro Music Tools and all the rest of the non-US dealers) need to pay EBMM, then all the import fees and taxes for bringing an American-made product inside the corresponding continent, and finally add their profit. That's how a 3500$ guitar reaches the amount of 5000€ etc.

I can also say that Pro Music Tools do not overprice their inventory, simply because they can afford not to. You can easily verify this by checking Thomann's prices or any other local dealer's prices.

So, if a Monarchy Majesty costs 4000€ in the EU, it's quite normal for the Fuchsia Sparkle Majesty to cost 5000€.

 

[Spudmurphy]

Guys - I'm not a moderator on here but have been around on this forum long enough to have seen the moans and groans about buying outside the US on more than one occasion.
There are customs duty, vat on the goods, vat on the shipping plus don't forget that EB have to pay for the supply network , which in the case of the UK is Strings n Things, Shoreham. They also deal with all warranty work and have to make some income to pay their workforce.
So the distribution network is different in the States to the rest of the world. There's also duties n taxes to pay - it all costs money.

Heck think about the exorbitant price BP pays for his English Food delicacies like Spotted Dick and Toad in the Hole !!!

 

[GroovyAdventure]

OP- did GC give you a full refund?

 

[TripHazard]

I doubt the 'no tax hit' =)

I see that Project Music in Exeter (UK) charges £3500 for a Monarchy Majesty (=4000€). That's way above the US price. And it's totally justified, since they (Project Music, Pro Music Tools and all the rest of the non-US dealers) need to pay EBMM, then all the import fees and taxes for bringing an American-made product inside the corresponding continent, and finally add their profit. That's how a 3500$ guitar reaches the amount of 5000€ etc.

I can also say that Pro Music Tools do not overprice their inventory, simply because they can afford not to. You can easily verify this by checking Thomann's prices or any other local dealer's prices.

So, if a Monarchy Majesty costs 4000€ in the EU, it's quite normal for the Fuchsia Sparkle Majesty to cost 5000€.

No longer comparable as i've just found out Project are closing their MM stuff.
But the tax hit should be right - what i meant was, you won't pay another load of tax. if you buy from UK and ship to Germany the EU freed trade agreement means you won't have to pay import tax and VAT over and above what is already in the UK price.
My point about Pro Music overpricing is that they don't negotiate - i'd have paid more buying from Pro than from Project cos Project would give you a better than advertised price.

 

[JayDawg]

So for the folks overseas, is it easier to buy from someone in the U.S. then over there? The last 2 RBMM’s I sold were to people from other Countries. 1 guy was in Ireland and the other guy was in Australia.

 

[johnnyboogie]

If you buy from UK and ship to Germany the EU freed trade agreement means you won't have to pay import tax and VAT over and above what is already in the UK price.

That's absolutely correct.

As far as I am concerned, Pro Music Tools have negotiated their price with me twice (JPXI Cardinal Red, JPXI Sledge) =)

PS: To be absolutely precise the JPXI Cardinal Red was in discount (more than 1000€ discount), and the JPXI Sledge price was negotiated due to my claim that there was 'orange peel' on the JPXI' Cardinal Red. The guys in Pro Music Tools were kind enough to offer me a small discount due to that fact, without even verifying it. Although they did offer to examine the JPXI Cardinal Red in person, and was I correct in my claim, they would ship it back to EBMM for a re-finish.

 

[johnnyboogie]

So for the folks overseas, is it easier to buy from someone in the U.S. then over there? The last 2 RBMM’s I sold were to people from other Countries. 1 guy was in Ireland and the other guy was in Australia.

The best option for someone outside the US, would be to have a relative/friend/contact in the US that can buy the instrument for him/her and then ship it to him/her. The receiver would still have to pay import fees and taxes but would save the extra charge/profit of the retailer in the other continent.

There are however retailers within the US that are allowed to ship outside the US. DuBaldo Music Centre for example.

 

[TripHazard]

So for the folks overseas, is it easier to buy from someone in the U.S. then over there? The last 2 RBMM’s I sold were to people from other Countries. 1 guy was in Ireland and the other guy was in Australia.

Its easy to buy from a private US seller, but US dealers can't sell outside the US.

 

[kestrou]

Its easy to buy from a private US seller, but US dealers can't sell outside the US.

And I believe then there's no warranty - somebody who knows for sure please confirm - but don't want to leave that statement without this (possible) caveat.

Kevin

 

[V_S]

Anybody cares for CITES, which makes it even more complicated to ship guitars with rosewood parts around the world since the beginning of 2017?
I bought some guitars from US before... but now with all the paper work needed...

 

[PeteDuBaldo]

The best option for someone outside the US, would be to have a relative/friend/contact in the US that can buy the instrument for him/her and then ship it to him/her. The receiver would still have to pay import fees and taxes but would save the extra charge/profit of the retailer in the other continent.

There are however retailers within the US that are allowed to ship outside the US. DuBaldo Music Centre for example.

As far as international sales, we are not allowed to sell/ship EB/MM outside the USA unless the item is:

A) Used
B) Discontinued and/or over 2 years old (with approval from EBMM)
or
C) Special permission granted by EBMM (an extremely rare situation where the item is not offered in buyer's country)

As a general business practice I do not sell/ship outside of the USA even if the above options allow it, especially with the new CITES regulations.

 

[TripHazard]

And I believe then there's no warranty - somebody who knows for sure please confirm - but don't want to leave that statement without this (possible) caveat.

Kevin

This is true, if you fly to the US, buy the guitar, fly home, your warranty is in the US

 

[GWDavis28]

This is true, if you fly to the US, buy the guitar, fly home, your warranty is in the US

Really, I'm not sure, yes you have a receipt, but if you live in europe and try to send the guitar back for warranty work would they still cover it I wonder?

Glenn |B)

 

[TripHazard]

Musicman in the US would accept it, you’d have to ship it back to the US. Strings and things in the UK wouldn’t take it for warranty work. Magic Jason might chime in with some more info as he bought a guitar in the US last year

 

[guitarmandp]

Hey guys I was not trying to start a pissing match against that store. I said the price was ridiculous and then clearly put a disclaimer saying that this may be because of factors outside of their control.

 

[GWDavis28]

When did you place the order?

You never answered BP's question??

Glenn |B)

 

[mmbassplayer]

Guitarmandp... Everyone keeps telling you to to answer BP's (Screen Name: Big Poppa) as he is the owner of the company and may be in a position to help you out. JOSH

 

[vuduhwy]

You never answered BP's question??

Glenn |B)

Ya man, I'd be all over that if I were you. It's not gonna get much better than having the company owner wanting/trying to help you.

 

[fogman]

LoL