My new baby

[phatduckk]

Tucker's, this Friday night. 9:30-1:30.

ya know.. i dont wanna get OT here but seriously... how do you guys play such long sets? or even multiple sets...

after 1 set im done with .... you cant even talk to me for 30 minutes after i get off stage cuz im so tired. 1 hour, 20 songs... bye bye.

rock on.

nice bass!!! congrats Ray

 

[bovinehost]

It's the reality of the bar band, Arin.

We played a long one Saturday night, 9 pm - 1 am, that's what the bars expect and it's generally what we do.

Our band has been spoiled lately with playing showcases and festivals and that sort of thing and we can burn it down for an hour, hour and a half, but the three or four hour bar gig is the norm.

How do we do it?

We drink.

 

[phatduckk]

It's the reality of the bar band, Arin.
...
How do we do it?

We drink.

ahhh ya, makes sense. see, we dont really have (m)any bars like that in SF. wish we did tho. you guys do originals or mostly covers?

 

[Aussie Mark]

Arin, the coverband scene worldwide appears to be a standard 4 hour gig, either 3 or 4 sets.

 

[phatduckk]

Arin, the coverband scene worldwide appears to be a standard 4 hour gig, either 3 or 4 sets.

sounds like fun stuff. honestly though, we dont have that sort of scene around here. mostly mini-venue clubs... 3 or 4 original bands per night.

id love to play in a band like that and even more id love to have places like that to go to hang out on fri/sat nights.

rock on guys... see, now the whole "this bass i heavy" thing makes sense

 

[bassmonkeee]

Heh--I don't usually show up for gigs where I play for less than 3 hours.

 

[Big Poppa]

I usually show up in the second set and my chops leave somewhere in the third.

Arin, this is where live music has changed. You kids do "shows" us diaper wearing know it alls play "gigs".

Gettng ready for gigs used to entail a lot of practice and jamming. I grew up playing 60's stuff, beatles, stones, then came zeppelin, cream, hendrix, then drifted in allman bros, always tons of white orange country blues, shuffles, to some progessive stuff (even had a bowie cover band when Zuggy Stardust came out) Always at the same time loved western swing and outlaw country. That is the foundation of my playing the genetics so to speak.

I used to put so much into it that my fingers bled...I have pictures somewhere with Steve Morse and Big Al in Japan with the three of us playing in some Japanese club with Blood dripping off my pickguard. Over the years I figured it out a little better thanks to John Ferraro, ( who is the most underated musician I know) He taught me to control my breathing, and tension control, and to stay a little more in the present.

At the Dallas Bash watch him closely...no matter how hard driving the music is he is loose and in control. I watch a lot of punk bands and it reminds me of myself 30 years ago, Think of a carpenter and watch how he swings the hammer.....loose baby, us hobbiest carpenters swing the hammer really stiff using every muscle possible. You can play the same stuff and more if you take the tension out. My attack is still probably a little harder than most and I tend to drive the bass rather than sit in the back beat....My playing is really a reflection of my personality and experience and musical upbringing now. I haven't played a full gig in six months but can go out and play for four hours and its like riding a bike. (I just fall off more these days)

Ray sorry for the Hi jack this probably should be cut and pasted into a new thread.

 

[SteveB]

I remember watching John Ferarro at the SLO country club. He looked like he could handle anything that someone might call out. Very relaxed, confident, and able to read the improv situations very well. I'd like to clone him and keep one in Pittsburgh.

 

[muggsy]

I usually show up in the second set and my chops leave somewhere in the third.

Arin, this is where live music has changed. You kids do "shows" us diaper wearing know it alls play "gigs".

Gettng ready for gigs used to entail a lot of practice and jamming. I grew up playing 60's stuff, beatles, stones, then came zeppelin, cream, hendrix, then drifted in allman bros, always tons of white orange country blues, shuffles, to some progessive stuff (even had a bowie cover band when Zuggy Stardust came out) Always at the same time loved western swing and outlaw country. That is the foundation of my playing the genetics so to speak.

I used to put so much into it that my fingers bled...I have pictures somewhere with Steve Morse and Big Al in Japan with the three of us playing in some Japanese club with Blood dripping off my pickguard. Over the years I figured it out a little better thanks to John Ferraro, ( who is the most underated musician I know) He taught me to control my breathing, and tension control, and to stay a little more in the present.

At the Dallas Bash watch him closely...no matter how hard driving the music is he is loose and in control. I watch a lot of punk bands and it reminds me of myself 30 years ago, Think of a carpenter and watch how he swings the hammer.....loose baby, us hobbiest carpenters swing the hammer really stiff using every muscle possible. You can play the same stuff and more if you take the tension out. My attack is still probably a little harder than most and I tend to drive the bass rather than sit in the back beat....My playing is really a reflection of my personality and experience and musical upbringing now. I haven't played a full gig in six months but can go out and play for four hours and its like riding a bike. (I just fall off more these days)

Ray sorry for the Hi jack this probably should be cut and pasted into a new thread.

Great post BP. I'm not much of a player, but I always have to remind myself to relax because my fretting hand tends to get clenched and tight and that's when I get tired. It's hard to stay loose, but it makes a huge difference whether you're playing for thirty minutes or four hours.

 

[RockinRayDuke]

Ray sorry for the Hi jack this probably should be cut and pasted into a new thread.

Agreed! This will make a great thread on its own. Oh, Jack?

 

[lenny]

ya know.. i dont wanna get OT here but seriously... how do you guys play such long sets? or even multiple sets...

after 1 set im done with .... you cant even talk to me for 30 minutes after i get off stage cuz im so tired. 1 hour, 20 songs... bye bye.

rock on.

nice bass!!! congrats Ray

Wow things must be different in the states here in Canada there are 3 types of gigs

Bars-10pm-2am -3 -1 hour sets 2 -1/2 hour breaks=4 hours usualy $600.00
Legion/private company Dances -9pm-1am Same thing 3 sets 1 hour long plus 2 breaks =4 hours $600.00
and Caberets wich are open until 3am so we play 11-12am and then 2am-3am
so 2 -1 hour sets and usually we get $1000.00 plus a ryder which is a 24 of beer plus 2 hotel rooms and a free meal

 

[RockinRayDuke]

Always had a good time in Canada unless one of my bandmates made the border crossing a bit of a chore. Wink wink nudge nudge.

 

[bassmonkeee]

Always had a good time in Canada unless one of my bandmates made the border crossing a bit of a chore. Wink wink nudge nudge.

Heh...I see what you did there...