SUBtastic
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In less then 3 years the SUB has been discontinued,why? I`m glad i got mine (excellent guitar!)but i was just curious as to the reason. 
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SteveB
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SUBtastic
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SteveB
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You are quite welcome!
While it's sad that the SUB line had to go, I'm actually glad that it did, because I believe (with no offical proof, mind you) that the elimination of the SUB's made the BFR instruments possible. I'm talking about the 'slots' in the production line that were vacated when the SUB series was discontinued.
While it's sad that the SUB line had to go, I'm actually glad that it did, because I believe (with no offical proof, mind you) that the elimination of the SUB's made the BFR instruments possible. I'm talking about the 'slots' in the production line that were vacated when the SUB series was discontinued.
Astrofreq
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That's a good way to look at it. I still miss the Sub series because it put Music Man in the reach of the younger guitar players.
Big Poppa
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its market economics...China Viet Namm and India make it impossible to make a guitar in America that is in reach of younger players.
Sales were not an issue At the end of the SUB run were even breaking even. More orders would have made the problem worse.
SteveB is right we needed to replace the production slots with items that werent commodity
Sales were not an issue At the end of the SUB run were even breaking even. More orders would have made the problem worse.
SteveB is right we needed to replace the production slots with items that werent commodity
Astrofreq
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hmm. . . Do you mean a quality guitar or just a guitar in general?
But without China, we wouldn't have General Tso and he invented the chicken! So I heard.
Phrat
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And we wouldnt have chinese food..of course over there they just call it "food".
brentrocks
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Big Poppa
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I only think of guitars in terms of quality
SUBtastic
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Well said!
paranoid70
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I played a few SUB1 guitars and I thought they were pretty good. Although I will admit that I found the paint to be a bit scratchy.
If you don't mind my asking, other than the paint and pick-guards, what was the fundamental difference between the SUBs and the standard line of guitars offered by Music Man?
If you don't mind my asking, other than the paint and pick-guards, what was the fundamental difference between the SUBs and the standard line of guitars offered by Music Man?
paranoid70
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Two hums? The SUBs they had at my local store only had one.
SteveB
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The SUBs had painted necks, so EBMM could utilize maple that wasn't perhaps as visually pleasing as the normal Music Man lines.
All the SUB guitars are routed HH regardless of the actual pickup configuration.
The SUBs had textured paint finishes on the body, and metal pickguards (they later offered plastic pickguards, too). Again, they could use less 'pretty' wood on these guitars since there were no 'trans' finishes offered that would show the grain.
Was there something slightly different about the fretwork?
They sported a different locking tuner than the other MM instruments.
Although this is not official, I've noticed that the SUB guitars that I have seen had lighter colored rosewood fingerboards. Not that it was different rosewood than any of the other guitars, but I can't help but wonder if they just tended to use the lighter colored pieces for the SUBs so that the darker, arguably "richer" looking rosewood pieces ended up on the higher-end models? I'm speculating based on my own observations, which are limited to a few in-person and a handful of photos that I've seen around the forum. So I could be entirely wrong, and that wouldn't be the first time.
All the SUB guitars are routed HH regardless of the actual pickup configuration.
The SUBs had textured paint finishes on the body, and metal pickguards (they later offered plastic pickguards, too). Again, they could use less 'pretty' wood on these guitars since there were no 'trans' finishes offered that would show the grain.
Was there something slightly different about the fretwork?
They sported a different locking tuner than the other MM instruments.
Although this is not official, I've noticed that the SUB guitars that I have seen had lighter colored rosewood fingerboards. Not that it was different rosewood than any of the other guitars, but I can't help but wonder if they just tended to use the lighter colored pieces for the SUBs so that the darker, arguably "richer" looking rosewood pieces ended up on the higher-end models? I'm speculating based on my own observations, which are limited to a few in-person and a handful of photos that I've seen around the forum. So I could be entirely wrong, and that wouldn't be the first time.
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SUBtastic
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The SUB`s are routed HSH? Good to know,thanks! The Rosewood fretboard on mine FWIW is quite dark!
SteveB
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The Rosewood fretboard on mine FWIW is quite dark!
Well! There goes that theory then, eh?
I'm glad to hear that. As I said, the few that I've seen were lighter than the regular models, apparently by coincidence.OOPS:
The SUB1s are routed HH not HSH as I mistakenly posted earlier! Sorry!
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SUBtastic
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Well! There goes that theory then, eh?
OOPS:
The SUB1s are routed HH not HSH as I mistakenly posted earlier! Sorry!
Oh ok,no problem!
