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Alz®

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Could someone tell me how many of the 30th anniversary models were made as well as how many in Fretless and LE models?

THANKS!!!!
 

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when i first bought it and asked, i recall someone saying around 7xx 30ths.
 

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Having done research on this forum, the number manufactured is 783.

Could I please see a breakdown showing the allocation of Fretted, Lined Fretless & Unlined Fretless?

I've just bought an used Fretless and was just wondering....

THANKS!!
 

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Having done research on this forum, the number manufactured is 783.

Could I please see a breakdown showing the allocation of Fretted, Lined Fretless & Unlined Fretless?

I've just bought an used Fretless and was just wondering....

THANKS!!

That question has been asked before on the forum but it has not been answered. The only number we know is total production of 783. I think it's safe to say that only a small percentage of those are fretless.
 

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I don't think EBMM is in the habit of giving out the production numbers you requested. I know EBMM did it with the Dargie Delight models, but that was a special case. Production numbers is valuable proprietary information and I wouldn't expect EBMM to give out that data willy-nilly just because we want to know our bass is '1 of x' basses manufactured.
 

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Thanks for everything you guys do for us BP. It's above and beyond.

I cringe when I read posts like that because they come across like you and the folks at EBMM are expected to bow to our every whim. It's not the case. You guys are appreciated more than you know and it's an honor for us to have you here, participating in these discussions.

Anyone who's been here for more than a minute knows that this forum is rare in that we get personal attention from the actual people who design and build the instruments that we love.

I recently sold every piece of Line 6 gear that I owned, as much as I liked it, because they treat their customers like mindless sh!ts on their forum. You couldn't get a straight answer over there if you put a gun to their heads.

So thanks to everyone at EBMM. You really are the best and we appreciate it.
 

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I own and use Line6 gear, and mynan is dead on. The support sucks, the sense of community is nonexistent, and even worse, bass players are treated as second-class citizens. It's a shame, because it's good gear.

That's one of the things that's so cool about EBMM. Not only are the products great, so is the support, and so is the forum.

Of such things are lifelong customers made.

I feel no loyalty to Line6 whatsoever. I use their stuff because it suits me at the moment. The second somebody comes up with something that meets my needs better, I'm gone.

That's not the case with EBMM. I may someday find a bass I like better (doubtful), but what I've experienced here in the 18 months I've been a knucklehead has instilled a distinct sense of loyalty, comradeship and even family. That will drive me to stick with EBMM for a long, long time.

Perhaps this is a side effect of getting older. I find that as I age, I value respect for the customer, good business practices, plain old politeness and service ever more highly. Treat me right and you deserve my business. Treat me like a nonentity and I don't care if you've got the flavor of the week...I'm looking for a quality experience.

Herein lies the flaw in the idea that sending customer service jobs overseas is a good idea because it's cheaper. I have banned companies for a lifetime because I had bad experiences talking to some phone room drone in Bangalore who could not spell the name of the state I live in.

Businesses in all industries could learn a lot from BP. Paying attention to, and supporting, this forum is a really smart thing to do. I know that we knuckleheads are a tiny, insignificant minority, but we're VERY vocal. In the age of the Internet, word gets around FAST.
 

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Aussie mark the funniest thing you have ever said.......

Thanks A douglas. I think that the important thing is that I still love the guitar and basses and dont take for granted the opportunity I have one minute.
 

Alz®

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Thanks for everything you guys do for us BP. It's above and beyond.

I cringe when I read posts like that because they come across like you and the folks at EBMM are expected to bow to our every whim. It's not the case. You guys are appreciated more than you know and it's an honor for us to have you here, participating in these discussions.

Anyone who's been here for more than a minute knows that this forum is rare in that we get personal attention from the actual people who design and build the instruments that we love.

I recently sold every piece of Line 6 gear that I owned, as much as I liked it, because they treat their customers like mindless sh!ts on their forum. You couldn't get a straight answer over there if you put a gun to their heads.

So thanks to everyone at EBMM. You really are the best and we appreciate it.


Why would you cringe at the thought of someone asking a simple question? Looks like you're trying to suck up to someone.

Big Poppa, OK so it's none of my business, but actually what is the purpose of such forums unless we can ask questions about products that we possess and love? Besides, I was also enquring regarding the LE edition. Surely the production number IS someone's business otherwise how could be marketed as an LE?
 

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I don't think EBMM is in the habit of giving out the production numbers you requested. I know EBMM did it with the Dargie Delight models, but that was a special case. Production numbers is valuable proprietary information and I wouldn't expect EBMM to give out that data willy-nilly just because we want to know our bass is '1 of x' basses manufactured.

At the end of the day, it's our right to ask even if it is deemed that we are unworthy of an answer.
 

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Why would you cringe at the thought of someone asking a simple question? Looks like you're trying to suck up to someone.

Big Poppa, OK so it's none of my business, but actually what is the purpose of such forums unless we can ask questions about products that we possess and love? Besides, I was also enquring regarding the LE edition. Surely the production number IS someone's business otherwise how could be marketed as an LE?

It's an LE because they made it for a limited time and then stopped. The total production number for the 30th SR was made public not because we have any right to know, but because EBMM was willing to tell us. You obviously did a search before you posted your initial question, so you know that the question has been asked before and not answered. Now it's been answered. You may not like the answer, but production numbers are proprietary information so let's respect that and move on.
 

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Alz entitlement will get you a limited distance. Really the problem with information requests is that they are endless. Requests for where my guitar is in the system, how many teal SR's did you make in fretless in 1989? THen there is the competitve issue. I try to show more and give more information than anyone else but you just have to draw the line somewhere. The assumtion/accusation of us considering you unworthy is preposterous.....We actually like to interact and respect our long time, current and future suporters. Because I couldnt give you exactly what you want you assume that we consider you unworthy? Ist that a little extreme?

Really you can talk about your rights and accuse someone who spends a great deal of time here a kiss ass and that really isnt proper, true or nice.


THere is a lot of information here and it just not be presented to your liking.
 
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Back to "rights" questions on a privately owned forum for a privately owned company.:eek:

This has been answered before in a long thread.

There are no rights, you are here at the pleasure of our host and for questions about the company EBMM can tell you as much or as little as they choose.

The 30th SR is great and nothing else sounds like it. You're in a very small subset of a very small club being a fretless 30th SR owner.
Enjoy.:cool:
I love my fretted one.:cool: :)
 

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At the end of the day, it's our right to ask even if it is deemed that we are unworthy of an answer.

Don't assume because BP doesn't want to release private information we are being considered unworthy. I wouldn't be surprised if competing manufacturers don't at least read this forum to get insight on a competitor. How much do you think this production information would be worth to them?

What if BP started putting out production numbers? What if competitors started extrapolating that data for nefarious purposes?

At the end of the day, does it affect the quality of the instrument you play if you have 1 of 10 basses or 1 of 10,000?

The EBMM staff go to great lengths to answer questions about their products. Heck, they're even showing us design steps on an as yet unreleased product. How many companies do that?

The important questions pertaining to functionality of their products are always answered in great detail. EBMM is available on the phone for free should you have any concerns about your instrument. The bottom line is we get treated with respect, and EBMM representatives deserve this same respect.
 

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Alz entitlement will get you a limited distance. Really the problem with information requests is that they are endless. Requests for where my guitar is in the system, how many teal SR's did you make in fretless in 1989? THen there is the competitve issue. I try to show more and give more information than anyone else but you just have to draw the line somewhere. The assumtion/accusation of us considering you unworthy is preposterous.....We actually like to interact and respect our long time, current and future suporters. Because I couldnt give you exactly what you want you assume that we consider you unworthy? Ist that a little extreme?

Really you can talk about your rights and accuse someone who spends a great deal of time here a kiss ass and that really isnt proper, true or nice.


THere is a lot of information here and it just not be presented to your liking.

Actually Big Poppa, I wholeheartedly appreciate your sentiments and the products that you have and will offer. You're right, I might have been a little extreme with my thoughts. You have been more than open in the past and I mistakenly took that generosity and thought that my question here was not wholly invalid.
Thing is, all it needed was someone to turn around and say that it was confidential information, period. At least now we know and it is documented for any further requests/searches by other members in this forum.

Thanks for all your support.
 

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Thing is, all it needed was someone to turn around and say that it was confidential information, period. At least now we know and it is documented for any further requests/searches by other members in this forum.

From how I see it, it's not confidential, they just haven't the time to devote to answering questions like that.
 
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