BFR owners: How bad does the painted neck slow you down?

[Charles]

I am seriously considering getting a BFR Petrucci, they are so awesome.

However, the single thing that is holding me back is the fear of the painted neck. I have always had difficulty playing fast on them.

So, all you BFR owners, how much does the painted neck hold you back?

 

[colinboy]

alrite fella,
i think theres too much pf an issue made over the finished and unfinished neck on these guitars.i only own a BFR JP6 but i have played aregular one before and the BFR,S are amazing.im sure you,ll get over the painted neck when you start playing and cant seem to put it down.simply amazing guitars BFRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ALL DA WAY!!!

 

[roburado]

I have difficulty playing fast on any neck, finished or unfinished.

JP doesn't seem to have a problem with it.

 

[Multiversal]

The whole "the painted neck slows me down" thing is bs in my opinion.

It's all in your head.

It's more a matter of what FEELS best. Do you like the way a painted neck FEELS?

 

[Charles]

When I play slows me down it probably is a reference to how I don't like how they feel, and the resulting uncomfortableness affects my playing. But it depends on how thick the finish is too, my RGT had this incredibly thickly painted neck that just felt awful to me.

 

[Big Poppa]

Charles

If definitely slows you down...you find your self staring deep into the birdseye and start to get hypnotised...the you start looking at the next one and the next one and then you are comparing them and then you decidee to count them and suddenly the audience is roaring its appreciation..you have just played the one note solo that every blues guitarist aspires to play where they express every emotion with just that one note.

 

[Charles]

In all seriousness. I should be ok, right?

 

[Multiversal]

You'll be fine.

 

[Ricman]

In all seriousness. I should be ok, right?

Come here, give me a hug......it's gonna be okay....

Feel better now?

 

[Big Poppa]

Charles.... Do I have to be serious all the time? In my humor I think I was telling you that you are ok

Would JP commission a guitar that made it harder to play fast?

 

[Charles]

Knowing JP he could probably shred a two by four with 3 strings.

Ok. I'll order the BFR once I hit the US, woo.

 

[bovinehost]

There's a secret or two here that no one wants to talk about.

It's not latex house paint. It won't get gummy or anything.

Also, you're not touching the paint. You're touching the clear coat. So it's just like playing a non-painted neck with a glossy clear finish.

Last thing, these painted and non-painted necks have actually been pitted against each other in resistance testing in various wind tunnels across North America and Iceland (known for its fine wind tunnel technology). Now as you know, I'm sure, there are four categories or types of drag (aka resistance):

1. parasitic drag
2. lift-induced drag
3. wave drag
4. paint-induced drag

In parasitic drag testing, the glossy painted neck performed marginally better than the oil/wax finished necks, and also smelled better, probably due to skin friction, which is often a consideration in parasitic drag testing.

In lift-induced drag testing, both necks performed equally well as neither neck was equipped with wings.

During the wave-drag tests, during which both necks were required to be moving at or near the speed of sound through a fluid, the tests had to be suspended after the unfortunate deaths of a number of pilot whales. Surviving whales were polled subsquent to the accident and preferred the 'sheen' of the painted necks.

In paint-induced resistance testing, there were some discussions about the technical results.

As you probably are aware, the overall paint resistance of an object is characterized by a dimensionless number called the paint-drag coefficient, and is calculated using matchsticks, weasel spit and tiny bits of cotton, which are tossed willy-nilly at rats and then read by conjurers.

Assuming the rats will gnaw certain matchsticks, eschew the weasel spit (weasels are natural predators and will also drink to excess) and use the cotton bits to make little panties, paint-drag will vary as the square of velocity.

Thus, the resultant power needed to overcome paint-drag will vary as the cube of velocity. (On a personal note, I take my coffee with no cream and two cubes of velocity. Pay attention, Jodizzle.)


The standard equation for paint-drag (non-latex) is one half the coefficient of drag multiplied by the prancing fluid density, the cross sectional area of the specified item, and then consult the conjurers.

End result - no difference.

Some pilot whales were killed during the typing of this post.

Jack

 

[Lou]

I noticed that when it got really humid and my hand was sweating, I 'stuck' to the BFR neck (hand doesn't glide as easy), where the standard version does not present the same issue. But as infrequently as that happens it's not a major issue for me. It's no different than my other finished neck guitars.

 

[tommyindelaware]

i put this product on the back of finished neck and bodys of most guitars i work on........& it is amazingly beautiful. it adds amazing depth & is very very smooth. it also makes for a very fast smooth action on the back of a finished neck.
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[NorM]

Jack,
I think you forgot to mention the piece of technology that made the testing you mentioned possible.
Rockwell's Retro Encabulator
[ame="http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=PtuqjFf7-N4"]YouTube - Retro Encabulator[/ame]

 

[greenwizard]

Jack....
Thank you!
Now I understand!

 

[paranoid70]

The SUB1 has a painted neck and I never noticed any problems with the neck at all. It plays about as good as the Silo necks IMO.

 

[Sweat]

I will have to admit I was sceptical about the painted neck when the BFR first started coming out and was what caused me to not buy one at first but once I tried one out well that thought went out the window, it is a fantastic guitar and can not wait till mine get here next week

 

[DrBob]

The whole "the painted neck slows me down" thing is bs in my opinion.

It's all in your head.

It's more a matter of what FEELS best. Do you like the way a painted neck FEELS?

Right,

I'd have to say yes and no on this point.
As a man that sweats more that a 'fat lass in lycra' I'd say that on your 'average' painted neck guitar (and by that I think we know to whom I'm referring here) that the combination of my perspiration and the painted back of the neck absolutely does result in a sticking, and a drag that is ultimately a problem when trying to get up and down the neck fast.

However I'd bet that although I've never played a BFR-JP, that it's going to be light years ahead of the aforementioned 'average' painted neck guitar.
And you've got to think of it this way;
Much as it could be a devious ploy on the part of BP and the EBMM massive to slow JP down to a point where us mere mortals could dream of getting into his ballpark, can you see the man himself tolerating anything that would hinder his performance ?

 

[the24thfret]

can not wait till mine get here next week

oops! where'd the beans go? oh wait, they've been SPILLED!