anyone here into SUB's?

[greenwizard]

Maybe it's supposed to mean Sub $1k? Would be fitting, it's the only one that was on the line you could get for under 1k new.


I don't think "for the price" even belongs in the description. Sub's rule, period. It functionally lags behind my Silo in no way shape or form, they are just two different guitars.

I might be very very wrong here, but I remember something about SUB being Sterling Ball's initials....
But I could be way off on this one.

 

[fatoni]

Maybe it's supposed to mean Sub $1k? Would be fitting, it's the only one that was on the line you could get for under 1k new.


I don't think "for the price" even belongs in the description. Sub's rule, period. It functionally lags behind my Silo in no way shape or form, they are just two different guitars.

different how? what is this guitar geared towards? and the silo

 

[Jimmyb]

I was in Sound Control in Salford yesterday and they had some SUB's at really good prices.

Worth checking out if anyone's in the market for one....

 

[Sub1 Zero]

different how? what is this guitar geared towards? and the silo

Well, I find the Sub to have a thicker sound, and I honestly think it is most at home with rock, classic rock all the way up to wombat eating death metal. This thing is about as bullet proof and low maintenance as they come, I love going to practice and not worrying about damaging my paint. Taking the sparkle Silo to practice gives me bowel problems. For the record, I haven't found a better neck pickup than the one in the Sub, whatsoever. It's just plain beautiful, I'd love to try it with a coil tap.

The Silo is like a Dremel; it'll do it all, and it'll do it all very damn good too. It doesn't have the "wall of sound" punch that the Sub has, being Alder, but does have more highs. Also, the Silo is a bit lighter, and looks prettier. The Silo is a go anywhere and do anything guitar, and can be easily modded to do whatever you need it for (I'm putting a Duncan SH6 in the bridge, a dimarzio Malmsteen single in the mid and trying to find a Sub neck pup for the neck).

As of right now my Sub is my favorite guitar in existence. Buy one.

 

[fatoni]

Well, I find the Sub to have a thicker sound, and I honestly think it is most at home with rock, classic rock all the way up to wombat eating death metal. This thing is about as bullet proof and low maintenance as they come, I love going to practice and not worrying about damaging my paint. Taking the sparkle Silo to practice gives me bowel problems. For the record, I haven't found a better neck pickup than the one in the Sub, whatsoever. It's just plain beautiful, I'd love to try it with a coil tap.

The Silo is like a Dremel; it'll do it all, and it'll do it all very damn good too. It doesn't have the "wall of sound" punch that the Sub has, being Alder, but does have more highs. Also, the Silo is a bit lighter, and looks prettier. The Silo is a go anywhere and do anything guitar, and can be easily modded to do whatever you need it for (I'm putting a Duncan SH6 in the bridge, a dimarzio Malmsteen single in the mid and trying to find a Sub neck pup for the neck).

As of right now my Sub is my favorite guitar in existence. Buy one.

thanks, thats a pretty detailed description. right now im in the process of either selling my ibanez for more than enough to buy a sub or trade the guy for a g&l s-500 deluxe. i know this is an ernie ball forum but does anybody have anything to say about that comparison

 

[kompressaur]

imo thats a bit of an apples and oranges comparison.a textured poplar body with humbuckers v gloss finished flame maple/mahogany piece with single coils.The SUB1 retailed at way less than half what the S-500 Dlx does here in the UK. about the best I can offer is they're both great USA made guitars.That particular G&L needs stacking up against a Silo Special or even a Luke or ASS imo
One area the SUB1 will really knock you out is the quality of the rosewood on the board and the excellent fretwork.Its a really tight feeling neck,mines sustains for ever.I have a couple of Fullerton made G&L guitars and much as I love them both they cant match any of my balls (SUB most definetely included here) for attention to detail in the fret profiling,ends,fingerboard edges etc.
Komp

 

[fatoni]

imo thats a bit of an apples and oranges comparison.a textured poplar body with humbuckers v gloss finished flame maple/mahogany piece with single coils.The SUB1 retailed at way less than half what the S-500 Dlx does here in the UK. about the best I can offer is they're both great USA made guitars.That particular G&L needs stacking up against a Silo Special or even a Luke or ASS imo
One area the SUB1 will really knock you out is the quality of the rosewood on the board and the excellent fretwork.Its a really tight feeling neck,mines sustains for ever.I have a couple of Fullerton made G&L guitars and much as I love them both they cant match any of my balls (SUB most definetely included here) for attention to detail in the fret profiling,ends,fingerboard edges etc.
Komp

great info. i think im just too indecisive. i know they are apples to oranges, i just dont know what i want. im afraid that the sub will be too much like my jp6 and then i wont use it at all. plus the g&l is "worth" more so if i decide to sell either one (being a full time student sucks) the g&l might be a better option financially....i dont know

 

[Sub1 Zero]

Personally, I think it'd be very different from the JP6. It's a little more on the vintage side, and the JP6 is more modern

 

[MikeVt]

im afraid that the sub will be too much like my jp6 and then i wont use it at all.

Maybe I can help with this part - since I have both. Let me just say that both my sapph black JP6 AND Sub are sitting on my 'in use' rack at all times. To me, they sound very different, and they have a very different neck feel. I actually find my Sub to be more versatile than my JP6. The JP6 is a screamer, and it really shines for high gain work. The bridge pickup has tons of harmonics, and is great for pinching and squealing. The piezo is sweet too for acoustic sounds. However, for lower gain work, it just sounds a bit thin compared to the Sub. Although the Sub also sounds great at high gain, for me it tends to shine at lower gain settings. It's got a full bodied, bluesy sound that I just can't replicate with my JP6 - perhaps due to the body mass (no contours). That neck pickup just kicks butt. I just can't get the same satisfying body from my JP6. It's just very gratifying and inspirational to play. There are times when I find the neck of the Sub more relaxing to play too. It's closer to the Silo shape, and sometimes is easier on my hand. The satin finish on it is just outstanding.

So...bottom line, if you're looking to play mostly metal, you may not find enough of a difference between the two. In that case, the Sub might be a waste. However, if you are looking for versatility, the Sub should fill some tone gaps that you'll have a hard time getting with your JP6.

My two cents...
Mike