Can my Silo fit Wilkinson trem??

[PRCpower]

Guys im thinking of upgrading my MM Silhouette with wilkinson tremolo.
Can it be done?
Did anyone try, do the holes fit?
My silo cant take to much tremolo abuse it gets out of tune realy easy im thinking of changing nut with graphtech one and changing tremolo What do you think?


Wilkinson/Gotoh VS-100N Tremolo
Wilkinson/Gotoh VS-100N Tremolo at Stewart-MacDonald

 

[INMT]

I think you might need to adjust the trem poles a little.(I don't mean the saddles, although you may need to adjust them after you get the bridge even).
Personally I think the MM vintage trem has to be one of the most stable out there.
I recently adjusted a silo that was having the same problem with holding tuning. A quick adjustment of the bridge, problem solved.

 

[Multiversal]

You replace Fender bridges with Wilkinsons.

You don't need to replace the MM bridge.

 

[whitestrat]

My silo cant take to much tremolo abuse it gets out of tune realy easy im thinking of changing nut with graphtech one and changing tremolo What do you think?

I honestly don't think your problem lies with the trem... I think it's more the nut.

 

[Thirdpole]

I wouldn't call it an "upgrade" !

 

[PRCpower]

Interesting, yes the MM bridge looks pretty solid.
Although the knife edges are a bit worn out, that may be the problem.
Il try to tighten the neck bolt screws, and change the nut to graph tech one.
What do u think?
Did anyone change the MM nuts with some others?
Does any firm produces such nuts that can fit silo's nut hole or il just need to buy nut blank and do my magic on it,)

 

[PRCpower]

I think you might need to adjust the trem poles a little.(I don't mean the saddles, although you may need to adjust them after you get the bridge even).
Personally I think the MM vintage trem has to be one of the most stable out there.
I recently adjusted a silo that was having the same problem with holding tuning. A quick adjustment of the bridge, problem solved.

What kind of adjustment INMT?

 

[luke69]

the MM is very good
if you have problems for tuning or stability
surely your guitar needs a general setup
i've play with it with my olds 3 Luke i've never have a problem
it's not a Floyd Rose but when it's setup floating you can make whith it more than other "standard" Trem

don't change it lets it a chance it's a very good trem

 

[PRCpower]

the MM is very good
if you have problems for tuning or stability
surely your guitar needs a general setup
i've play with it with my olds 3 Luke i've never have a problem
it's not a Floyd Rose but when it's setup floating you can make whith it more than other "standard" Trem

don't change it lets it a chance it's a very good trem

I believe u. It looks robust enough. Il leave it on and try to change the nut and make good setup.

Does any firm produces quality nuts made for MM silo or il just have to buy a nut blank?

 

[Tone?]

change that trem and the sound WILL change. Probably in a big way.

My two cents would be to try and work out whatever issues you have with the trem you have. If the knife edges are worn then get a new trem from EBMM like the one it came with.

I dont really care about what people think about this trem or that trem, the thing is that the sound will change and you might not like it. That equals to a substantial amount of risk.

Also changing the nut will change you sound as well.
I dont want to come off sounding like a know-it-all, but vintage-style trems and the more modern ones take some good setting up to stay in tune as well as you need to know how to 'use' them to stay in tune as well.
Even Fender 6 hole vintage bridges can be setup and played to stay relatively in tune.

ALL tremolos need an amount of technique when you use them. EVEN a FLoyd. Of course a Floyd wont go outta tune no matter what, but you still need to know how to use it.

With the more vintage ones you need to know how to use them as well. It needs a certain 'touch'. Hard to explain actually.

i think you get the picture.

Experiment with your guitar and you will get to know it better. That is also an important step in playing the instrument...knowing it.

Put some graphite on the nut.
Pay attention on how you wind the strings.
learn how to use the bar

 

[grumpyoldman]

You replace Fender bridges with Wilkinsons.

You don't need to replace the MM bridge.

Amen!

 

[whitestrat]

Interesting, yes the MM bridge looks pretty solid.
Although the knife edges are a bit worn out, that may be the problem.
Il try to tighten the neck bolt screws, and change the nut to graph tech one.
What do u think?
Did anyone change the MM nuts with some others?
Does any firm produces such nuts that can fit silo's nut hole or il just need to buy nut blank and do my magic on it,)

Which nut? Compensated? or not? I think if it's the normal one, I believe the normal nut blanks would be fine. TUSQ, Bone, Graphtech, you name it... If you want the compensated one, considering it's a 25.5" scale, I believe Earvana has what you're looking for...

 

[Thirdpole]

The nut that came stock with my SiloSpec is very hard and i would say it is among the best stuff out there !

If i was you, i'd try some lube like the NutSauce stuff before even considering the graphtech nut. I have a Strat with a graphtech nut and i doesn't stay in tune as well as the Silo Spec !

 

[PRCpower]

Which nut? Compensated? or not? I think if it's the normal one, I believe the normal nut blanks would be fine. TUSQ, Bone, Graphtech, you name it... If you want the compensated one, considering it's a 25.5" scale, I believe Earvana has what you're looking for...

Mine is pre compensated. Born in 2001.

 

[PRCpower]

The nut that came stock with my SiloSpec is very hard and i would say it is among the best stuff out there !

If i was you, i'd try some lube like the NutSauce stuff before even considering the graphtech nut. I have a Strat with a graphtech nut and i doesn't stay in tune as well as the Silo Spec !

Thx guys, most important the trem stays.
And for the other stuff il set up my silo properly tighten the whole thing then we will see.
Im surprised by all the good people out here,)

 

[PRCpower]

Which nut? Compensated? or not? I think if it's the normal one, I believe the normal nut blanks would be fine. TUSQ, Bone, Graphtech, you name it... If you want the compensated one, considering it's a 25.5" scale, I believe Earvana has what you're looking for...

By the way did anyone tried to fit a pre compensated MM-s with the compensated nut. The guys at MM said its not possible that it needs routing.

 

[beej]

I've seen it done. It is larger than the standard nut, and yes you'd need to route to get it in there. But the larger issue is that you can't get the comp nut to retrofit (unless you take one off another neck).

 

[Thirdpole]

Make sure you try some Nut Sauce when you change your strings.

My silo spec is also non-compensated.

One more thing, i would bet the G string is the one that's giving you some troubles as on most trem guitars. When it happens, the G string is sharper after a trem depression. There is a quick fix that will allow you to continue the song without having to stop for tuning when this happens. Press firmly on the G string behing the nut to stretch the string. It should return your G string to the original pitch !

 

[PRCpower]

Make sure you try some Nut Sauce when you change your strings.

My silo spec is also non-compensated.

One more thing, i would bet the G string is the one that's giving you some troubles as on most trem guitars. When it happens, the G string is sharper after a trem depression. There is a quick fix that will allow you to continue the song without having to stop for tuning when this happens. Press firmly on the G string behing the nut to stretch the string. It should return your G string to the original pitch !

In fact all of the strings go out of the tune but i abuse it beyond its limits i think
guitar is 2001g. im the second owner so i don't thing the 1st owner ever tighten the bolt screws and tuners,) i need to get the right tool and ill be all over it.
I think that the whole guitar "breath" a bit. I think that's the problem.
Ill get the nut sauce, but for now i smashed some graphite and filled the nut.
Still gets out of tune but as i said i think that the guitar breath's.

 

[Sub1 Zero]

I don't think it's the trem; both of mine are stable as all hell...