paranoid70
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I love the Silhouettes. If the feeling of the bridge is your main concern, you could replace the saddles with the Graphite ones. Mine is so smooth and comfy now.
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I love the Silhouettes. If the feeling of the bridge is your main concern, you could replace the saddles with the Graphite ones. Mine is so smooth and comfy now.
Dead-Eye
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Are you sure the split coil setting on the JP (maybe coupled with the piezo) won't satisfy your single coil needs?
Just for the trem and the piezo my choice is definitely the Petrucci, but I wouldn't mind owning a SL1 either...if, theoretically, I still had cash to spare after getting a JP7 and a JP6 BFR
Honestly, Silos don't make good "metal" guitars. A Luke or Petrucci, sure. An Axis, maybe. But a Silo is a stretch.
And if I get what he's saying about the feel of the bridge, it's not about the saddles. Floyds (especially recessed Floyds) have a certain feel in the way it rests against your picking hand and the tension in it's movement, one that can't be duplicated by a vintage-style bridge.
colinboy
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Where abouts are you from?its obviously in europe as talking about euros for the petrucci guitar.
i bought one in the uk and can point ya in the right direction if you want
paranoid70
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Silo Special I would agree. But what about the standard Silhouette? I thought the pickups were different than the SS. I have only played them at Guitar Centers, but I thought it handled the Sabbath/Priest sound pretty well.
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Ive owned about 5 Jacksons. and I can easily say that EBMMs are light years ahead of Jackson in feel and tone and playability and tuning stability! I wont ever own another Jackson. Jackson = wanna be Ibanez. and I dont really like Ibanez that much. So yeah.
Well, if you want a versitile axe, you might try the Axis or Axis SS,...neck is sort of narrow, but more of a baseball bat " C " shape than a " ( " shape.......you can get hard driven power and single coil tones......the Axis is probably not the ultimate "metal" guitar, but more a rock/metal axe with versitile capabilities for other sounds and genres.
Well I wouldn't consider Sabbath or Priest to be metal (modern metal, at least), but for that purpose a Silo Std (HSH) would probably do ok. But for more intense music, I don't think you're gonna get the chunky attack or as I like to call the "in-your-face-ness" from a Silo as you would from a guitar that's built for that type of music. In that case, a JP or a Luke would do a much better job than a Silo.
decayingwings
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Thanks again guys!
Here's some comments:
-jamminjim told to buy them both...yeah surely if someone gives me the money! That's true, that would end the problem though But right now I can only afford one..
-Again, NO silhouettes for me! The "normal" silhouette has single coil at the center which is useless to ME, I have single coil at the center in my Ibanez and never use it! Single coil must be at the neck pickup...Ok then there's this silhouette special....it has only 22 frets and I really do need 24 frets in many many songs! So that's it from the silhouettes.
-Dead-Eye said something about am I not satisfied with the coil tap & piezo sound of Pet...I don't know 'cause I can't test the guitar here! Maybe I would be...You tell me...That's one of the problems I'm having....If I decide to buy Petrucci Bfr I must order it without testing it....
-Jason2112 yeah that's it about the bridge!
-colinboy I live in Helsinki Finland...
-Rufedges Axis=22 frets..Axis ss=22 frets and no floyd style vibrato system (like pet) so they're not for me. C'mon guys it's really down to these two sl1 or bfr. Of course I didn't mention earlier about the 24 frets...well now you know
Ok..thinking...thinking which one
If I only could "test drive" the Bfr...maybe it's the ultimate tool for me...maybe not. Like I told earlier I've only tested my friends JP6 ...is the Bfr much different? Same neck I assume? The coil tap on Bfr could work for me..but usually coil taps are just not same as having a single coil..Also I agree the trem system is very good! I was just blown off by the Jackson single coils...which are stacked single coils if memory serves...
Here's some comments:
-jamminjim told to buy them both...yeah surely if someone gives me the money! That's true, that would end the problem though
But right now I can only afford one..-Again, NO silhouettes for me! The "normal" silhouette has single coil at the center which is useless to ME, I have single coil at the center in my Ibanez and never use it! Single coil must be at the neck pickup...Ok then there's this silhouette special....it has only 22 frets and I really do need 24 frets in many many songs! So that's it from the silhouettes.
-Dead-Eye said something about am I not satisfied with the coil tap & piezo sound of Pet...I don't know 'cause I can't test the guitar here! Maybe I would be...You tell me...That's one of the problems I'm having....If I decide to buy Petrucci Bfr I must order it without testing it....
-Jason2112 yeah that's it about the bridge!
-colinboy I live in Helsinki Finland...
-Rufedges Axis=22 frets..Axis ss=22 frets and no floyd style vibrato system (like pet) so they're not for me. C'mon guys it's really down to these two sl1 or bfr. Of course I didn't mention earlier about the 24 frets...well now you know
Ok..thinking...thinking which one
If I only could "test drive" the Bfr...maybe it's the ultimate tool for me...maybe not. Like I told earlier I've only tested my friends JP6 ...is the Bfr much different? Same neck I assume? The coil tap on Bfr could work for me..but usually coil taps are just not same as having a single coil..Also I agree the trem system is very good! I was just blown off by the Jackson single coils...which are stacked single coils if memory serves...
Well mate if its a stacked single coil it aint a single coil.
Its a Humbucker.
You haven't give the Silhouette a chance either.
You could easily outfit it with a pickguard with whatever setup you desired.
I don't know if they are still available but there used to be a Silhouette with a Floyd.
Axis does have a floyd.... but 22 frets...
Does it have to be a BFR Petrucci???
Check out the standard JP. theres a few in the for sale thread and also some BFR's too...
Its a Humbucker.
You haven't give the Silhouette a chance either.
You could easily outfit it with a pickguard with whatever setup you desired.
I don't know if they are still available but there used to be a Silhouette with a Floyd.
Axis does have a floyd.... but 22 frets...
Does it have to be a BFR Petrucci???
Check out the standard JP. theres a few in the for sale thread and also some BFR's too...
paranoid70
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Dude, you just blew my mind.
I think you meant.."Duuuuuuude, you tooootalllllly just blewwwww my miiiind"
Seriously, by today's standards, Priest and Sabbath is "classic hard rock".
Spudmurphy
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Are you sure the split coil setting on the JP (maybe coupled with the piezo) won't satisfy your single coil needs?
Just for the trem and the piezo my choice is definitely the Petrucci, but I wouldn't mind owning a SL1 either...if, theoretically, I still had cash to spare after getting a JP7 and a JP6 BFR
A split Humbucker will never sound like a true single coil because of the difference in magnetic fields. It was explained to me by a guy who makes pickups - he drew me diagrams and what he said makes sense.
paranoid70
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I think you meant.."Duuuuuuude, you tooootalllllly just blewwwww my miiiind"
Seriously, by today's standards, Priest and Sabbath is "classic hard rock".
You are making me feel old bro.
I still maintain that songs like War Pigs, Die Young, Electric Eye, Freewheel Burning and Painkiller are f***in /m\etal. Guess it's Lamb of God or nothing for you kids these days............................... Get off my lawn!
jamminjim
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Guess it's Lamb of God or nothing for you kids these days............................... Get off my lawn!
LMAO! And you think you feel old...
Decayingwings - the BFR's have a solid mahogany tone block in them, which I have been told gives them some amazing tone and more sustain. And, I would suggest you buy them both, over time... don't have to do it at once. Or why not get a loan? There's people out there paying $30K to $50K for a simple automobile, surely you have options for "affording" two guitars mate. However, since I have come to realize the best value for my money is EBMM I would have to recommend an EBMM product, whichever one you decide. Sorry, the Jackson just doesn't appeal to me.
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V_S
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My Silo hardtail with a Tonezone in bridge position definitly has more "chunk" than my JP6. With the right pickup you can change pretty much every guitar in a metal monster.
Dead-Eye
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I know. But considering the Jackson's "single coils" are stacked and not true singles either...
And it might still work for him, even if it's not a classic SC tone.
You are making me feel old bro.
I still maintain that songs like War Pigs, Die Young, Electric Eye, Freewheel Burning and Painkiller are f***in /m\etal. Guess it's Lamb of God or nothing for you kids these days............................... Get off my lawn!
Heh, I grew up in the early '70s, I haven't been a kid for over 30 years but thanks for making me feel young!
I still play some thrash metal from the '80s/'90s once in a while, but there's a lot of newer music out there that makes even that stuff sound pretty tame.
paranoid70
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Jason, you are probably older than me then - my username indicates the year I was born.
BTW, where in SoCal are you located? Are you jamming with anybody?
BTW, where in SoCal are you located? Are you jamming with anybody?
