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73h Nils
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Did you pick up that huge set with the 4 LPs?
DanTheMan
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I heard a couple of tracks of the new mix and it sounded awesome! Much better than the original.
I too haven't listened to that album for a long time. 'Yield' I still really like but that was the last one.
I'm tempted now...
I too haven't listened to that album for a long time. 'Yield' I still really like but that was the last one.
I'm tempted now...
koogie2k
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I was never a fan of "re-mastered" albums. To me, it is more like, "we need money and can't seem to write music" and I love the original copy I have. I will check it out, but, I doubt I will buy it unless there are some tunes on there I don't have and I like. Still....they are a great band live and I have enjoyed their music over the years.
There are some tunes on it you don't have.
And I agree about not normally going for remixes.
I actually felt this one in particular was a dumb idea.
I was wrong though.
It is superior in every way to the original mix. Louder, clearer and ballsier.
There are things going on that I never noticed before because of all the excess reverb.
And I agree about not normally going for remixes.
I actually felt this one in particular was a dumb idea.
I was wrong though.
It is superior in every way to the original mix. Louder, clearer and ballsier.
There are things going on that I never noticed before because of all the excess reverb.
fly
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great live band.........Ten was a smokin' album
so this new one is on my list to get
so this new one is on my list to get
mmbassplayer
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Ten is a Timeless work and my favorite of all of Pearl Jam's albums. One of my motivating albums for picking up the bass. I think i will see if it is loaded on the iPod. JOSH
VAiN
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Wow, that's the first time that I've heard anyone say that about PJ. I think that if you follow their albums there is a continuous effort to grow as a band and in particular, songwriting. The first album- ten, sonically, is the anomaly... all the albums after that have a consistent sound.
koogie2k
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I will keep that in mind. Now you have my curiosity up. Plus, my girl wants this as she is a huge Pearl Jam fan, so, I now have an excuse...lol.
Thanks for the insight though....I will keep my mind open to it.
leftyguitarblue
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I heard a few songs as well and it sounds much "cleaner." The original was saturated with reverb. If you check it on itunes, you can listen to identical 30 second clips of the original and remastered and the latter is much better.
brasco68
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Ten is a classic....and it still doesn't contain my favorite PJ song..(Rearview Mirror).
I could not disagree more that they have lost their way...they have just evolved, and will ultimately be remembered with some of the greats.
I could not disagree more that they have lost their way...they have just evolved, and will ultimately be remembered with some of the greats.
DanTheMan
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I have no problem with a band evolving or changing/exploring their sound, in fact I prefer it.
But for me, Yield was the peak of PJ's songwriting 'growth' if you like, the last few albums to me are just not as good in regards of songwriting.
Of course this is all just a matter of taste.
If Pearl Jam didn't lose their way, then they need to invest in a new compass.
Some of their releases have been terrible. No Code, Binaural and Riot Act come to mind. Their fans love everything they do, but most people turned them off at Vitalogy.
That last CD they put out with the avocado on it, however, was every bit as good as their earlier stuff.
Some of their releases have been terrible. No Code, Binaural and Riot Act come to mind. Their fans love everything they do, but most people turned them off at Vitalogy.
That last CD they put out with the avocado on it, however, was every bit as good as their earlier stuff.
Legit02Quit
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been a long time
DanTheMan
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Seeing as how I seem to agree with your opinions regarding PJ I'll have to give the 'avocado album' a listen then.
Cheers.
brasco68
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I like avocados...
Astrofreq
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As a Ten Club member since 98, I feel I must chime in here. The remix was done because they were never happy with the original. All the vocals were reverbed like crazy. The new mix is simply just they way they wanted it and Jeff Ament has been talking about doing this for probably 10 years. Unlike Star Wars, you can still buy the original version if you prefer it.
As far as "lost their way", I couldn't disagree more. Many people dismissed them after Vitology because the production on that album was so heinous and the guys were fighting like crazy during that period. After that, they truly come into their own and found a new comfort with each other. No Code was really where their more recent sound started evolving the most. They weren't ready to write songs like Around The Bend and Sometimes before the 3rd album.
Rhyster, it's not surprising that you mentioned No Code, Binaural and Riot Act. Yield was in that era as well. I think all have superb songs as well as some throwaways. Hail Hail, Sleight of Hand, and Save You are favorites of mine off those records. But hey, people like different stuff. If you aren't into anything past the first few records, then it simply is "not for you". LOL Army Reserve and Thin Air are more beautifully crafted examples of tunes they wouldn't have written during the early era.
Mostly, I think Eddie's singing has improved the most. On Ten, he sounds more like a caricature of the angry youth he's portraying. As the band progresses, his singing has truly matured and evolved with the band and developed his own sound even more. The band sounds so much more together now than back then, especially live. Just pick up any of the recorded shows from the last tours and you'll probably tell how much more together they sound. Alot of it has to do with Matt Cameron being a perfect fit for that band.
I personally think Yield is a masterpiece in every sense. Definitely in my top 5 albums ever. Like any band, PJ isn't for everyone. If you don't like Eddie's singing, you won't like the band and that's okay. The musician's aren't shredders, so it won't appeal to some people, and that's okay too.
Comatose!
As far as "lost their way", I couldn't disagree more. Many people dismissed them after Vitology because the production on that album was so heinous and the guys were fighting like crazy during that period. After that, they truly come into their own and found a new comfort with each other. No Code was really where their more recent sound started evolving the most. They weren't ready to write songs like Around The Bend and Sometimes before the 3rd album.
Rhyster, it's not surprising that you mentioned No Code, Binaural and Riot Act. Yield was in that era as well. I think all have superb songs as well as some throwaways. Hail Hail, Sleight of Hand, and Save You are favorites of mine off those records. But hey, people like different stuff. If you aren't into anything past the first few records, then it simply is "not for you".
LOL Army Reserve and Thin Air are more beautifully crafted examples of tunes they wouldn't have written during the early era. Mostly, I think Eddie's singing has improved the most. On Ten, he sounds more like a caricature of the angry youth he's portraying. As the band progresses, his singing has truly matured and evolved with the band and developed his own sound even more. The band sounds so much more together now than back then, especially live. Just pick up any of the recorded shows from the last tours and you'll probably tell how much more together they sound. Alot of it has to do with Matt Cameron being a perfect fit for that band.
I personally think Yield is a masterpiece in every sense. Definitely in my top 5 albums ever. Like any band, PJ isn't for everyone. If you don't like Eddie's singing, you won't like the band and that's okay. The musician's aren't shredders, so it won't appeal to some people, and that's okay too.
Comatose!
Astrofreq
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