Is this dude a forumite? serious shred in here...

[Sweat]

I think it shows the diversity of EBMM guitars. You don't have to like that music, but you can appreciate someone doing something not expected with an EBMM guitar. It's called extremem music for a reason, it's not for everyone.
It's kind of like the Gratefull Dead for me; I think they were the most boring band with the most bland, unemotional songs ever written and I would rather stick bamboo under my nails than listen to them, but I respect them as musicians.

I just find it weird that I can appreciate all styles of music that may not be my cup o' tea, but metal always gets panned. It's the same as the lefty abuse I have taken over the years. People are so close-minded.

Lefty,

Man can not agree with you more, everything you said is so true, especially the last statement, people are close-minded!!

you know what is metal now days, is it death metal, satan metal, 80's metal, heavy metal etc. etc.
While there are still categories to put music in, and i dislike alot of whats being put out nowdays it is all still music.

I am 49 and have always enjoyed a wide variety, while i can be classified as a rocker, I enjoy all genres, some more than others.

Several years ago I decided to stop categorizing music, nowdays i have one category......... either I like it or I dont, The Keith Catergory!

Yes that band and song is not my cup of tea bt the dude can play and shows off the JP, enough said.

Scott again you are so right closed minds

 

[koogie2k]

I thought is was very cool playing. Of course, I play in an "extreme" metal band...so..I like this kind of music. I am just not close minded to other forms and genres. Some people like it...some don't. That is what makes music so much fun...there is something out there for everyone.

 

[fatoni]

you guys are crazy knocking metal, rap and r&b. do you know how old that makes you sound? im not saying that necrophagist is overflowing with character and feel but there is plenty of that to be found at this end of the spectrum. i think that music is about conveying feeling. in that regard "metal" is a better form of music than "blues." that was one part how i feel and one part devils advocate...and yes it is lonely here up on my pedestal

 

[brasco68]

To clarify my agreeing with luv's statement...the guy has more chops than a butcher shop and is a very fine player...but the song makes it hard to really enjoy what he's doing. I don't see myself as close minded as I enjoy many different types of music and can appreciate the art and creativity that goes into metal and even some of the more hardcore stuff. Just because one song isn't to my liking doesn't mean i'm close minded....it's subjective...it's that simple. There is such a thing as a bad song...no matter how good the musician is playing it.

 

[Sweat]

you guys are crazy knocking metal, rap and r&b. do you know how old that makes you sound? im not saying that necrophagist is overflowing with character and feel but there is plenty of that to be found at this end of the spectrum. i think that music is about conveying feeling. in that regard "metal" is a better form of music than "blues." that was one part how i feel and one part devils advocate...and yes it is lonely here up on my pedestal

Again thats close minded thinking, good music is good music no matter hat style it is

To clarify my agreeing with luv's statement...the guy has more chops than a butcher shop and is a very fine player...but the song makes it hard to really enjoy what he's doing. I don't see myself as close minded as I enjoy many different types of music and can appreciate the art and creativity that goes into metal and even some of the more hardcore stuff. Just because one song isn't to my liking doesn't mean i'm close minded....it's subjective...it's that simple. There is such a thing as a bad song...no matter how good the musician is playing it.

Agree, like I said one category, mine, and yes there are bad songs, always have been always will be

I think alot of the closed mind staements are directed at those posting it flat sucks without taking into consideration the dude has chops

 

[leftyguitarblue]

I think alot of the closed mind staements are directed at those posting it flat sucks without taking into consideration the dude has chops

exactly Keith. I wasn't picking on anyone specifically, it's just that I've been hearing that "owww, you like metal?!?!" thing since I was 14. I'm 37 now and I still love it, but i can appreciate Jazz musicians, blues, r&b etc. I just hate when people say "oh, it's metal" and dismiss it as not a legitimate form of music. I agree with Keith, I have "my music" there is no good or bad music, it only matters what moves you.

 

[robelinda2]

i think they'll never use metal as torture simply because then amnesty international might actually agree it is. cia would most likely add insult to injury by playing "we are the world"...

or Nickleback- ultimate torture!

 

[leftyguitarblue]

or Nickleback- ultimate torture!

Not gonna argue that one Rob! They have the worst lyrics ever.

 

[luv]

to elaborate on my earlier statement.....i failed to mention that i respect the guys ability to play....he obviously has talent. the song just didn't do much for me.

to each his own....get out there and get some!

 

[ProtoChicken]

One of the strange things with taste is that sometimes even though you try to appreciate it, and you know there is substance to it you just hate it. While I agree completely with Lefty and Fing's posts, I still find myself at times being close minded without meaning to be. It's like a color or food that you dislike. You don't make a conscious decision to dislike it, you just do.

I also know from my own closed mindedness how foolish it can make you look. I dismissed Opeth based on my limited exposure to them, and then after hearing the Damnation album (which for those who don't know is a really mellow album with all clean vocals) revisited their catalog and found I actually dug their style of death vocals, and was blown away by how good the musicianship was.

It took realizing that Ackerfeldt had a great voice and they were great players to make me listen to their other material. Kind of embarrassing on my part, but sometimes it takes something like that to remind me to not be so dismissive of things that don't catch my ear immediately.

One thing I want to add, and it is absolutely not directed to anyone here, is that players bashing players always seems petty. I had a very well known shredder as a private instructor for a while, and he bashed George Lynch any chance he got. It always boggled my mind (and yes I'm a huge Lynch fan) why someone would say so many negative things about someone elses playing to anyone, especially a student.

 

[Dizzy]

Man, some of you guys take things way too seriously.

No-one has doubted the guy can move his fingers quickly.

But music styles will always trigger differences of opinion.

Big deal - no need to write an essay about it.

To each their own.

What sounds like a muddy fart played in reverse to some will always be someone elses mug of (chunky) soup.

 

[leftyguitarblue]

Man, some of you guys take things way too seriously.

No-one has doubted the guy can move his fingers quickly.

But music styles will always trigger differences of opinion.

Big deal - no need to write an essay about it.

To each their own.

What sounds like a muddy fart played in reverse to some will always be someone elses mug of (chunky) soup.

as always Dizzy, eloquently put.

 

[Jack FFR1846]

Good job on the guitar playing.


There are plenty of types of music that I don't gravitate towards. What I have found in the last year or so (playing lots, lots more) is that if I have a reason to sit down and learn a song or type of song, I usually gain some respect for the type of music. My oldest son was into this kind of metal. He has brought me tabs for songs to ask me to learn them so I can teach them to him. Some of them....I have learned. Some are older bands that I never got into (Iron Maiden, Metallica, Pantera) and I've grown to like some of their stuff. Since I play in a band at our church, I'm learning tons of songs that I never would have played on my own (why play Amazing Grace when I can learn yet another Led Zeppelin song?) I've grown to respect some of the guitarists (and song writers) in this genre.

I think in general, I pay attention more. I will also say that just because it's hard to play does not always mean it's good.

jack

 

[Colin]

the question was asked is this dude a forumite? I wonder if he'll join after seeing this thread?

 

[luv]

the question was asked is this dude a forumite? I wonder if he'll join after seeing this thread?

Hehe....

 

[leftyguitarblue]

the question was asked is this dude a forumite? I wonder if he'll join after seeing this thread?

Freedom of speech and choice is a beautiful thing!

 

[Sterling_Bass]

He definitely has chops. I'd love to listen to his playing on top of music I can listen to though.

 

[sickindian]

to elaborate on my earlier statement.....i failed to mention that i respect the guys ability to play....he obviously has talent. The song just didn't do much for me.

To each his own....get out there and get some!

true

man, some of you guys take things way too seriously.

No-one has doubted the guy can move his fingers quickly.

But music styles will always trigger differences of opinion.

Big deal - no need to write an essay about it.

To each their own.

What sounds like a muddy fart played in reverse to some will always be someone elses mug of (chunky) soup.

:d

true

freedom of speech and choice is a beautiful thing!

oh thats true!

:d

 

[Dante]

wow, i'm surprised this thread isn't dead yet.
proto: i went through the same thing, the first time i listened to ghost reveries, i hated it. then i came across porcelain heart from watershead on utube. loved it. then it grew from there.

as far as necrophagist goes, it's the solos. nobody comes close to writing metal solos as great as what Suicmez writes. and from there i kinda grow a tolerance towards the rest. honnestly, i only listen to opeth, necrophagist and cynic(<= GENIUSES!) as far as death metal goes. the rest of my album collection is alot more compliant to mtv standards. even Nile, who i first thought would rock my world, don't rock it quite hard enough.

@ Rob: yes Nickelback is... not cool. but every album somebody's mother or girlfriend buys, puts money into the pot which get's used to make albums from slipknot, trivium, megadeth and yes, dream theater.

 

[RocketRalf]

I wouldn't put that in my ipod, but I'd rather listen to that than Eminem or Britney or all that prefab music. To me there are musicians who play instruments or sing, and then there are instrument players and singers who are not musicians, just talented in their craft of moving fingers or just good looking and with the latest technology there all the time to fix their out-of-tune playing.

The musicians thing then is subjective, music is not the same to everyone. Also, I can't judge this guy from a single video, being a musician transcends a single performance, it's a way of life. I didn't like this one, but that's just my taste, not my judgement.