zombi
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Dave got the sonic. Robert got the fiesta red. Rex took home the surf green and shell pink as well as a nice matching photo of the original automotive finish.
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Hellboy
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I kind of guessed that this would happen but still sad reading. Don´t mean to upset anyone now but next time there is a sell-out like this, please, please, please make sure to clearly point out that it´s only for US citizens from start. Makes life alot easier and less frustrating for us foreigners. Please remember that this is a international webforum and that "forumites" are from many corners of the world.
Sincerely//Jan
cellkirk74
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Well, at least there was a little hope that the agreements were not valid for the one offs, as it is quite obvious there is only one of that in the world.
As far as i know for example the redwood stingrays are officially allowed to be sold internationally because they are a limited run and can not be ordered anymore.
That been said i would still like to know the price for the SR5 Toni played on the pictures...
cellkirk74
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This is the quote of BP i refer to from the "HEY ZOMBI! GC Bargains Hidden gems"-thread:
"they can sell you that one any le or anniversary that is over two years old has no geographic restrictions"
So how about the one offs?
"they can sell you that one any le or anniversary that is over two years old has no geographic restrictions"
So how about the one offs?
Hellboy
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Would be good to clear this out once and for all. One-off´s certainly won´t take away sales for international distributors. And even the anniversary models, at least where I live, might not hurt them alot either since they don´t have them in stock. I think they might have one 4-string 25th HSS now. That is it. No 5-string. But the sad truth is that it would actually cost someone from my country less to buy a flight ticket, spend a couple of nights at a mid-prized hotel and buy TWO 25th Anni basses in a store in USA instead of one here. And this is most likely the reason why the distributor won´t have any in stock. They can´t sell them. And since there are none in stock, there is no way to try one out. And to pay a huge sum of money for something that you´ve not tried out and order one is risky. It will be very hard to sell the instrument again if it doesn´t come to ones liking without losing lots and lots of money. Vicious circle, indeed. Somewhat frustrating situation for someone like me that doesn´t like standard, off the shelf, black with maple neck instruments that is what sells most of the time. No goodies to be found.
Sorry for rambling. I do understand all the way that dealers agreements is the only way to go but, still, one-offs.....? What´s the deal? If dealers agreements apply to one-offs as well, then do us all foreign furumites a favour and specify this clearly from start at moments like this. Be specific. It will take away some frustration and will prevent us from being all fired up for no reason. Thank you.
Sincerely//Jan
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Stingray 4 Nut
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Hey Zombi,
thanks a lot man. I knew it would be almost impossible for us foreigners to get one of these, but you tried anyway. So, who got the All Rosewood Stingray?
Thanks again and congratulations for the event,
Ricardo.
Big Poppa
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Hellboy...I am sorry that you assumed that a bass show in Los angeles would be a good time to change our international distribution. I think that it isnt altogether fair to expect us to address potential assumtions. I was clear that the only ones you could buy were the onniversary and le's that were over two years old on two occasions. Im sorry that wasnt enough.
Here is the rub....Nobody wants you to have one of our special models more than me. If I exempted anniversary models none of the distributors would stock them adver=rtise them or service the warranty on them. Believe me it frustrates the living daylights out of me that some of our distributors expect protection and only buy one or two.....its not right for us and not right for the end user.
HOw this? Which one do you want? I will put it up on Ebay for the Casey Lee Ball Foundation....I will not recieve a penny but sick children and pediatric kidney researchers will and there isnt a distributor that wants to stay in my good graces that would raise a stink.....
Here is the rub....Nobody wants you to have one of our special models more than me. If I exempted anniversary models none of the distributors would stock them adver=rtise them or service the warranty on them. Believe me it frustrates the living daylights out of me that some of our distributors expect protection and only buy one or two.....its not right for us and not right for the end user.
HOw this? Which one do you want? I will put it up on Ebay for the Casey Lee Ball Foundation....I will not recieve a penny but sick children and pediatric kidney researchers will and there isnt a distributor that wants to stay in my good graces that would raise a stink.....
bovinehost
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Win.
Big Poppa
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We will decide which others will go on the CLB....Those will be available internationally. The remaining ones will be available either through your international distributor or favorite domestic dealer and that includes all your favorites and diont forget zombi who worked his ass off.
We will decide which others will go on the CLB....Those will be available internationally. The remaining ones will be available either through your international distributor or favorite domestic dealer and that includes all your favorites and diont forget zombi who worked his ass off.
boombox
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BP or anyone...do you have a list of whats still available?
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Mogee
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I love this company. t is my goal one day to live in SLO and work for Ernie Ball.
cellkirk74
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Sounds great! I assume we will get a hint when the auctions start?This is a very well chosen way to make both knuckleheads and distributors happy.
oli@bass
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Hm. That's an interesting outcome...
Big Poppa
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Oi is that a positive comment? Im just trying to keep all these people happy....
Brandt will know soon....
Brandt will know soon....
Hellboy
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Ok. I did not mean to jump on anyones toes here and my posts was not written in anger or anything like that. And I did not say that you should change your international distribution. And I know that we´ve talked about dealers agreements before about two years ago and I had no knollage about that at that time. Two times? I remember that we talked about it once. I do have a bad memory once in awhile so you can be right.
What I said was, I totally understand that dealers agreements is the only way to go. And I do understand your frustration that some dealers only buy very few instruments each year and that they need protection too othervise there won´t be anyone to market and repair the instruments in that sometimes small country/region. I´m not saying that you should change that. No sire. I know some of the lads that work at the distributor here and they are great. The distributor also owns a big music store and I buy most of if not all the stuff for the studio I run from them. I spend lots of money there. They sold me the SSL console I now have in the studio among many, many other things and that is a very expensive piece of equipment. Love them. Great lads in every way. Only good things to say about them. I´m most likely among one of their biggest customers and I´m invited and will attend a party that they are organizing tomorrow evening. Will be good fun. But the problem is that there are not that many bass players where I live since it´s such a small country and this makes it complicated to stock basses that are not "best sellers". There are not enough bass players in this country to stock hi-end basses so it´s not their "fault" at all. It would be a economical suicide to do otherwise. And there you have the vicious circle. The lack of instruments make folks like myself try to find what we´re after in Germany or other bigger countries. Why? Because it´s easier, less expensive and faster. And because of that, there are even fewer basses sold at local stores. At least when it comes to hi-end or more unusual basses. I´m not the only one that does this. How do one go about to break this vicious circle? I have absolutely no idea what so ever. Alot changed when when most scandinavian and lots of other countries joined the European Union back in -94. Borders across Europe are not what they used to be and that is most often a good thing in most aspects. Not all thou.....
Why did I and others think/hope that this sell-out might not exclude international forumites? Missunderstanding most of all I´m sure but also how it was adressed. In a rather general way to "forumites" when the thread came up. Nothing hostile from my part in this observation and I know that you are all grand and friendly folks. So no hostility. I got kind of excited about the SR with flames all over it myself. That bass looks just amazing. But to my knollage there are other US forumites also interested in that one so I guess that it´s gone. I was also asking about if there were a 5-string 25th HSS with maple neck laying around since I love those things and I think I saw one in a pic in the thread. But that was more a general question since I was aware that they are not on-offs so.....
A auction for the Casey Lee Ball Foundation sounds like a grand idea. That is what brought me to this wonderful little hide-out on the net in the first place, as you know. Progressive thinking, sire. Great for the foundation and for the cause. Not as great for the company and yourself since you won´t make any money selling. That was definately not at all what I wanted with my post. Not at all. Love EB. I only wanted to point out that it might be better to be alittle more specific when there are foreigners on the forum. Nothing else. And nothing hostile in that what so ever. Just a friendly remark, sire.
Sincerely//Jan
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Eggman
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Awesome idea BP - the CLB auction for these items. Love to see positive outcomes like this.
drTStingray
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Well done, BP.
It's a bit frustrating for us foreign forumites to see all this candy on display and no way (apart from personal long distance visit) to buy!
Sounds like you all had a great time and I'm glad it went so well for EBMM.
It's a bit frustrating for us foreign forumites to see all this candy on display and no way (apart from personal long distance visit) to buy!
Sounds like you all had a great time and I'm glad it went so well for EBMM.
zombi
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The flame stingray is still available currently. Your voices didn't go unheard. I talked numerous times to Glen and Sterling about the international interest. BP figured out a way for you guys to do it. I "work" for guitar center, but they don't pay me for the time I hunt down basses and call around to stores and time I spend on these forums. I go in early and on my off days to track these things down, because honestly, I am good at my job, and when I am on the clock, I have my own customers I need to help. They choose to work with me because I go above and beyond. I do my best to not be the guy who just blows off his customers. For instance if you were to order something from me, and want to know what is going on with it, I WILL find out and I WILL keep in contact with you, no matter what. I call and check up, even if I have to harass another store to get the information needed. I am actually working for you guys. I do that as a service. In all honesty, it's nice if a bass gets bought off me, but I am just happy to spread the EBMM love and share as much as possible about a guitar and bass company that shares the same business and social ideology I have. That being said, I am more than happy to answer any questions since I was there and have seen them in the flesh.
Hellboy
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Thank you. And, I must say, well done. Hope I did not step on your toes. Sorry if so. Now I know that there was much talk about odd basses, on-offs and things you´ve found that would be on sale at BPL. And this might be a thing that cunfuses me and others.... Is the flamed Stingray brand new or has it been sitting somewhere for awhile? I know for sure that a 25th and the re-issue SR´s are brand new since they came out this year but I´ve not found any info regarding the flamed Stingray and some other basses that were up for sale. Thank you.
Sincerely//Jan
zombi
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All BPL basses were new stock mint pieces. The clearance Gc thread is a seperate beast. Those are gc old stock stratch and dents.
