Question do the same balls type sing different?

[epifanto]

dear all,

this is for you who has more than one balls in same models, do they sing different, or just perfectly have the same tone?

in my opinion, each balls must have an unique sound characteristic, regarding the woods, ages or something else. so it must be a slight difference between them.

is there anyone notice about this?

thank you!!

 

[threeminutesboy]

as you mention slight differences but overall same tone, same feel

the difference is very subtile

 

[Stratty316]

Yes, there is a difference in the tone of each guitar. I think the Axis, as in my case, has a distinct tone range based upon the woods and other materials used in construction... My Gold and my Green totally sound like an Axis, but they are also sitting at different ends of the tone spectrum for an Axis. One has a fat, almost glassy midrange to it while the other has a more attacking tone with less midrange and more top end bite. I think you are absolutely correct in thinking that the age of the wood, the location of which the wood was harvested, how moist the wood was when it was painted, the assembly line the pickups, trem or even the wiring came from and several other factors can all make a difference in the overall tone of a guitar. That is why artists like Clapton and Gilmour who are known for a single guitar (Blackie and The Black Strat) are often seen using different guitars for different songs to find the tone they are looking for. Personally, I like the variation in tone from guitar to guitar... but I also know that for the most part an Axis is going to sound like an Axis, a Luke will sound like a Luke and so on cause the type of woods used are the same.

 

[Grand Wazoo]

dear all,

this is for you who has more than one balls in same models, do they sing different, or just perfectly have the same tone?

in my opinion, each balls must have an unique sound characteristic, regarding the woods, ages or something else. so it must be a slight difference between them.

is there anyone notice about this?

thank you!!

Well yes there will always be small differences, mostly due to the wood textures of two similar planks of timber used to make the same line of guitars or basses and their necks.

But what is also peculiar is that often the same guitar will sound different even if played by 2 different people, in fact the amount of callous on our finger tips varies from one man (or woman) to another hence the "touch", "attack" and "feel" will all result in a different sound. Which in turn is what makes us all individual.

 

[D.K.]

At one time I've had 4 regular Petrucci to play at the same time. They all came used to me, from different climatic conditions and all - and still they sounded very close to each other, it was alwayws "that petrucci tone".

There were subtle differencies (like one guitar had a bit more high end to the sound), however, that I'm almost sure come from slight differencies in woods used - cause You can never find two pieces of wood with exactly the same chracteristics - so each guitar is "personal".

That's what You would expect on any high end guitar, in fact

 

[jcm900]

yeah, there are slight differences, my Blue Pearl Luke sound a bit darker than the other ones.

 

[Lou]

All the JPs I have are consistent. I don't have 2 that are the same build/pickups so they vary slightly in tone. But all the JP's I have ever played have that cool A on the B string at the 10th fret that blooms to a harmonic. That's consistency!

 

[joe web]

have four JPs at the moment and they are very close to each other. but i had a JP 2006LE while back and this 06LE was different to the rest. more midrange as any other JP i have.
both EVHs sound slightly different, the red flametop is brighter than my black quilttop but the overall sound is very similar.

 

[jcm900]

another thing: if the guitar has the Piezo option, it may cause some difference in tone, because the saddles are different (on the JPs the non-piezo and the piezo saddles look alike though)

 

[bkrumme]

Definitely! There are some variations between my 2 BFR JP7's that give them their own character. It's instantly noticeable when I swap them out.

The Amethyst has a much tighter attack and a bit thinner lows.
The Tobacco has a little softer attack and thick lows.

I did a few measurements, and there are a few slight variances. I noticed one thing which would drastically change the tone. On the Amethyst, the pickups are a bit farther away from the strings. At first I attributed it to the different set-ups on each guitar, but I'm not so sure that's the case any more. The action is higher on the tobacco burst, so if it were the set-up I'd expect the pups to be farther away on THAT guitar. It's not so drastic that I think there's something wrong with either guitar. Just something I noticed.

They both definitely have that JP tone.

 

[PeteDuBaldo]

While being extremely consistent in build, each instrument sounds slightly different than the next, much like identical twins are still a little bit different from one another. We had 4 Dargie II Gold Rollers come through here (two at once) and the one I have sounded just a little bit better to my ears than its twin. I didn't get to play it alongside the other two before they shipped out but I remember them sounding similar when I checked them in.

One day I had a customer in the store who wanted a standard model JP, and we had 4 or 5 to choose from. He narrowed it down to 3 (based on color/options), and then we did an extensive A/B/C that went for an hour or two. The first two sounded virtually identical, the third sounded like it was on steroids - that's the one he bought! After he left I plugged in the other 2 JPs he didn't try out and they both sounded much like the first 2.

My '01 Blue Dawn JP has more mojo than my '06 Dargie JP (both have same pickups & piezo). It sings a bit more on the high end and seems to have more output overall, along with being very inspiring to play. It is also a little bit lighter than normal, which is always a good thing!

 

[jcm900]

yeah, don't forget that even though the pickups are very consistent today (they are made by computer controlled winding machines), they can also cause some differences. At the end, when we add together these nuances, these will have some effect on the overall tone.

 

[epifanto]

you guys are the best!!

each guitar is personal, without neglecting consistency on the "root tone" of the models.

i agree to D.K, and the rest of you.

this is what we get on high end, premium guitars : attention to the details.

i found that EBMM got high end user too, no tiny spot are neglected : attention to the details.

i love EBMM much more!!