JPX vs. BFR Tone?

[petruccirocks02]

Hmmm... You lost me there, Phil

My post was speculating on how the chambering and whatnot could affect the tone of the guitar. You won't really know what it'll do to the sound unless you sit down and play one, or A/B it to a regular BFR. I'm pretty sure there aren't many JPX's out on the market yet, since they were just introduced.

Also, my last comment was a typo. I meant to say 'couldn't have said it better myself'. I fixed it.

-Phil

 

[Hendog]

My post was speculating on how the chambering and whatnot could affect the tone of the guitar. You won't really know what it'll do to the sound unless you sit down and play one, or A/B it to a regular BFR. I'm pretty sure there aren't many JPX's out on the market yet, since they were just introduced.

-Phil

One minute your happy to speculate and one minute you act like the thread topic is silly. Oh well, Phil.

 

[petruccirocks02]

One minute your happy to speculate and one minute you act like the thread topic is silly. Oh well, Phil.

First, when did I ever say that this thread topic was silly? Oh wait, I never did. Seems like you're trying awfully hard to burn your bridges around here. First you call out forum members (such as myself) when we state a simple fact (such as your Sterling JP7 post incident), then you get on a moderator's back when he's only doing his job. I think you need to lighten up and not take everything as a personal attack. Either that, or maybe you'd be happier on another forum thats not run by the company who's forum it is.

My opinion on the chambering is coming from the 5 different 25th's that I've played at different stores. Those guitars have a great amount of resonance, and thats what I'm basing my opinion on. Is that clear enough, or did I lose you on that one too?

-Phil

 

[Hendog]

First, when did I ever say that this thread topic was silly? Oh wait, I never did. Seems like you're trying awfully hard to burn your bridges around here. First you call out forum members (such as myself) when we state a simple fact (such as your Sterling JP7 post incident), then you get on a moderator's back when he's only doing his job. I think you need to lighten up and not take everything as a personal attack. Either that, or maybe you'd be happier on another forum thats not run by the company who's forum it is.
My opinion on the chambering is coming from the 5 different 25th's that I've played at different stores. Those guitars have a great amount of resonance, and thats what I'm basing my opinion on. Is that clear enough, or did I lose you on that one too?

-Phil

Wow, you tell me to go find another forum and insult my intelligence in the same post and I'm the one with the problem???

 

[petruccirocks02]

Wow, you tell me to go find another forum and insult my intelligence in the same post and I'm the one with the problem???

There you go with the personal attack thing again. I wasn't insulting anyone's intelligence. A few posts up, you said I lost you, so therefore I asked if what I posted was clear enough or if I lost you. Just a simple question. There was no sarcasm in there at all, but you wouldn't be able to tell that because its over a computer. Hence the reason I think you think people are constantly attacking you.

Once again, no one is attacking you. When you join a forum and half of your posts are about non MM related stuff, wouldn't you expect a moderator or someone to say something when you're not paying to run this forum? I know I would expect that to happen.

-Phil

 

[bkrumme]

I'm really hoping the chambering adds a bit of resonance like it does on the 25th. I think it would make up a bit for the slight loss of resonance due to the floating tremolo.

The one thing I'm really stoked about is the 5 way switch. It adds an extra option over what the BFR has, and an extra 2 options over what the standard JP has. I'm not saying I necessarily like the looks of the 5 way switch (I actually like the 3 way aesthetic more), but I do love that it adds a pickup option or two.

 

[jam3v]

One minute your happy to speculate and one minute you act like the thread topic is silly. Oh well, Phil.

That's how I interpreted it as well.

 

[jam3v]

I'm really hoping the chambering adds a bit of resonance like it does on the 25th. I think it would make up a bit for the slight loss of resonance due to the floating tremolo.

The one thing I'm really stoked about is the 5 way switch. It adds an extra option over what the BFR has, and an extra 2 options over what the standard JP has. I'm not saying I necessarily like the looks of the 5 way switch (I actually like the 3 way aesthetic more), but I do love that it adds a pickup option or two.

What do you mean by "resonance?" Broader frequency response, or more sustain? How do you quantify resonance? I honestly have no clue.

I definitely prefer the 3 way switch. Mainly because I'm in the middle of polishing up the "Under A Glass Moon" solo, and I have to switch between bridge and neck pickup in that solo a bunch of times very quickly.

I just hope that will be easy with the 5-way, though it really doesn't look that way. I would have preferred push-pull, but hey, the rest of the guitar is perfect in my opinion.

 

[bkrumme]

What do you mean by "resonance?" Broader frequency response, or more sustain? How do you quantify resonance? I honestly have no clue.

When you strum a chord on the 25th Anniversary, you can feel the vibrations of the guitar more prevalently. So I mean resonance using the dictionary definition: a prolongation of sound by reflection or reverberation. So you could quantify it as sustain I guess, since that is the closest thing you mentioned and it fits the definition quite nicely. To me, it's more than that, though. There's a feel to it as well. The 25th has a feel to it that no other guitar I've owned has had. I'm hoping some of that quality shines through in the JPX.

I agree about the 3 way switch being easier to toggle, I just like the tonal options the 5 way offers. Luckily, I still have my BFRs and original JPs which have the 3 way.

I've got a JPX6 and JPX7 on order, so I'll do a comparison between them, the BFR models, and the standard models when they arrive. Might even do a video for you guys...just haven't decided if I want my ugly mug up on the internet

 

[ScoobySteve]

I hope the JPX can quack.

 

[RocketRalf]

The JPX also has bigger frets, I've heard that can brighten the tone a little. I can't confirm that.

To the folks worried about the 5 way switch: going from pos 1 to 5 and back is very easy and straightforward (on my Silo at least, it should be the same switch). The other positions are a little harder, but the response from the switch is really predictable so once you figure how much strength you need to flip to those positions you'll rarely miss.

 

[jam3v]

When you strum a chord on the 25th Anniversary, you can feel the vibrations of the guitar more prevalently. So I mean resonance using the dictionary definition: a prolongation of sound by reflection or reverberation. So you could quantify it as sustain I guess, since that is the closest thing you mentioned and it fits the definition quite nicely. To me, it's more than that, though. There's a feel to it as well. The 25th has a feel to it that no other guitar I've owned has had. I'm hoping some of that quality shines through in the JPX.

I agree about the 3 way switch being easier to toggle, I just like the tonal options the 5 way offers. Luckily, I still have my BFRs and original JPs which have the 3 way.

I've got a JPX6 and JPX7 on order, so I'll do a comparison between them, the BFR models, and the standard models when they arrive. Might even do a video for you guys...just haven't decided if I want my ugly mug up on the internet

Thanks. Seems like resonance and sustain are the same, but I see a lot of people make a distinction.

I've got a JPX6 on order as well, but I'd still love to see a comparison video.

 

[burgerama1960]

This is really amazing that there is absoulutely no sound bytes of this guitar yet! No pictures of JP with it nothing. I wonder if he even is going to use this guitar live. It must be a super top secret piece of wood that nobody has heard! Been waiting since namm to hear the jpx but to no avail very frustrating.

 

[Dante]

Thanks. Seems like resonance and sustain are the same, but I see a lot of people make a distinction.

sustain is how long a note rings for and resonance is how much the guitar vibrates when sustaining. they are different but rather intimately connected. the more a guitar resonates, the woodier it sounds, imho.

 

[bkrumme]

I hope the JPX can quack.

LOL. Why? You've got a 25th

 

[dmcguitar]

JP has been using his one off custome black sparkle model on tour. i dont know which songs though, he can be seen in some vids with the guitar, which is what this is based off... just a new color