Reflex looks like a nice bass............

[keko]

Roasted Neck = Toasted Wallet...............Mine!

To answer your question, it is a $400 upcharge, and is only available in the Black Sugar finish (color).

Oh, I see, ...well I think I'll stick with my first configuration, reflex 5 single H, white with maple FB!

Cheers!

 

[Laredo]

Done Deal.................

Order Placed................Reflex 4 HH Roasted Maple! Now for the waiting...............

 

[oli@bass]

Oh, I see, ...well I think I'll stick with my first configuration, reflex 5 single H, white with maple FB!

Keko, I strongly suggest that you consider the HH!!! The different coil selections are really, really, REALLY nice, and the different sounds you can get with the series/parallel switch go far beyond what you have on your Sterling HS.

 

[Grand Wazoo]

Oh, I see, ...well I think I'll stick with my first configuration, reflex 5 single H, white with maple FB!

Cheers!

Keko go the whole nine yards and get an H/S/S instead, trust me you will love the many sounds you get from it. (16 different combinations!!)

 

[keko]

Keko, I strongly suggest that you consider the HH!!! The different coil selections are really, really, REALLY nice, and the different sounds you can get with the series/parallel switch go far beyond what you have on your Sterling HS.

Thanks for this suggestion, but after over a year of hard usage of mine Sterling 5 HS, I've find out that over 90% using just bridge H position!

This sweetspot H is all that I need for live performance, just time after time I switch to all coils for some quick slapping and than quickly switch back to H pickup! Just sometimes when have problem with bad sounding places using position 2 (bridge single + phantom) to avoid subsonic feedback in lowest frequency range!

Only what I need badly is what reflex single H offer and that's parallel ceramic pickup switching (I don't have that on my HS) and perfect 4 band EQ for even more precise tone correction, depending on sound character of place we play!

I also like unplugged tonal character of body woods which reflex (well 25th I tried) produces!

Not even need to mention passive parallel sound character, fantastic for slapping when passive tone knob is muted a little bit!

I think I'll stick with my first choice... single H reflex 5, and maple FB of course!

P.S. ...I'm a little bit worried, my dealer don't call me for price and order?
Maybe he's gone to vacation, ...I'll check that this week, but his brother must be there in the store anyway!

Cheers!

 

[keko]

Keko go the whole nine yards and get an H/S/S instead, trust me you will love the many sounds you get from it. (16 different combinations!!)

Yeah, but please read first my last post from above!

HSS is really killer for many different sounds, but doesn't have H pickup placed at sweetspot position!

I don't have chance to try one, so I can't tell, but maybe H with center S in parallel/series could give even more improved tone than single H in sweetspot, I really don't know, but also can not afford to myself such an expensive experiment to discover this theory ?

 

[Grand Wazoo]

Yeah, but please read first my last post from above!

HSS is really killer for many different sounds, but doesn't have H pickup placed at sweetspot position!

I don't have chance to try one, so I can't tell, but maybe H with center S in parallel/series could give even more improved tone than single H in sweetspot, I really don't know, but also can not afford to myself such an expensive experiment to discover this theory ?

sho 'nuff read it!

Anyway I understand your requirements but, you know what? all this talk about the "elusive" sweet spot its a bit like (please don't curse me BP) finding a g-spot. The HSS has got 16 of them one sweeter than the other, take my word for it! But hey, it's your choice, I have tried a stingray single H and an HH and spent the best part of 30 minutes trying to perceive the voice difference between the bridge humbuckers on both and I barely can tell the difference. Probably someone else can hear it better than me, I couldn't.

 

[keko]

all this talk about the "elusive" sweet spot its a bit like (please don't curse me BP) finding a g-spot.

Well, we can discuss infinitely about that, but after over 25 years of live gigin' and changing of hundreds gigin' places (and bunch of basses) I'm pretty sure that BP is very close to "The Bass Tale" and sweetspot single H is not just a Tale, it lives in live performing musicians around the world, but they even don't know about this BP's secret, they are just playing their basses!
I'm talkin' about live performance, of course, for studio and headphones use multi pickup basses really do make sense (or home practice), but playing a bass live is one whole another world!

Sorry for huge off topic!

 

[MadMatt]

I'm talkin' about live performance, of course, for studio and headphones use multi pickup basses really do make sense (or home practice), but playing a bass live is one whole another world!

And that is why I love my 25th HH. when I practice I mess with different pickup settings and have a lot of fun with it. When playing with the band I mostly leave it on the rear pickup in Stingray mode as I call it. On only 2 songs do I change the pickup setting. One is where I need a double bass sound, the other I need that "Monster Truck" dual Humbucker sound.

-M@

 

[oli@bass]

I have tried a stingray single H and an HH and spent the best part of 30 minutes trying to perceive the voice difference between the bridge humbuckers on both and I barely can tell the difference.

Neither can I, and I've several of those beasts at home. There's always a difference between two instruments, even of the exact same specs, and I have no way of telling whether the difference I hear between an H (3EQ) and a HH is in the woods or really the electronics.

The same will hold true for the Reflex, because like on the StingRay and Sterling, the single H is at the exact same position like the HH. At the so called "sweet spot". To me, favoring the single H over the HH comes down voluntarily limiting one's tonal options. But sometimes less is more...

 

[keko]

Oh, invasion starts...

That's what I would like to have, just with maple FB and different color:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyD4nUE2UBU]YouTube - Music Man Reflex 5-String Bass with Rosewood Fingerboard Demo - The Perfect Bass[/ame]

Edit: ...looks even better when somebody play it than I thought, much better live in this video than on pictures, great job EBMM folks!

 

[Grand Wazoo]

Very nice! (eh Jack?)

 

[keko]

I've found another one from TPB, this HSS 4 banger is really for consider about, or it's just better player and Genz-Benz amp, I don't know, it's hard to say...

Damn, this sunburst with maple board looks killer, maybe I change my mind and decide for this color?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOt7iqEZWnM]YouTube - Music Man Reflex HSS 4-String Bass Demo - The Perfect Bass[/ame]

Edit: How much more cost sunburst color anyway?

 

[Grand Wazoo]

I did tell you Keko that the HSS is THE one, but oh no you wouldn't have it from me, you've had to hear a young man playing the them from Miles Davies "All Blues" to believe it, huh, huh?

 

[keko]

Well, I visited my dealer this afternoon, he's on vacation, but coming tomorrow!
Anyway, his bro confirmed my ordering info in store's order book and added for sunburst option a few question marks too!

Soon, I'll now the price for both versions, white and sunburst, but my beloved wife push my GAS for white one. I newer owned a white bass anyway!

P.S. ...GW, I've already decided for single H anyway, so thanks for Your suggestions, but believe me, only I know what I really need and want!
I agree that HSS is top of the range and tone killer, but I'm not sure if I could cut through with my band and my PA support without H pickup at the sweetspot position!

 

[Double Agent]

But hey, it's your choice, I have tried a stingray single H and an HH and spent the best part of 30 minutes trying to perceive the voice difference between the bridge humbuckers on both and I barely can tell the difference. Probably someone else can hear it better than me, I couldn't.

That is because there isn't a difference....the bridge pickup on an HH Stingray is in the same "sweet-spot" position as the single-H Stingray. Which is also true of the Reflex. Which, keko, is why you should strongly consider the HH Reflex. You give up nothing, but you have the potential to gain a whole lot of tonal variety. I mean, even if you get a HH Reflex and never use the neck H, you won't lose anything.

Of course, I understand the single H love in these parts, because the single H has gotten it done in various EBMM basses for over 30 years now and has done so with fantastic tone the whole time. But, I think what you gain with the additional neck humbucker is worth the price of admission and you lose nothing compared to a single H. Just something you might want to consider.

 

[keko]

That is because there isn't a difference....the bridge pickup on an HH Stingray is in the same "sweet-spot" position as the single-H Stingray. Which is also true of the Reflex. Which, keko, is why you should strongly consider the HH Reflex. You give up nothing, but you have the potential to gain a whole lot of tonal variety. I mean, even if you get a HH Reflex and never use the neck H, you won't lose anything.

Yeah, that's my nightmare!

So, I already have one HS Music Man bass, well HH reflex really couldn't do any harm according the bridge H pickup position, that's for sure, only what bothers me is little bit boost on weight and higher price for sure.
OK, I'll talk with my dealer about HH option for sure!

Cheers!

 

[oli@bass]

Yeah, that's my nightmare!

So, I already have one HS Music Man bass, well HH reflex really couldn't do any harm according the bridge H pickup position, that's for sure, only what bothers me is little bit boost on weight and higher price for sure.
OK, I'll talk with my dealer about HH option for sure!

Good choice!

IMO, within all the available options the HH offers two that are especially noteworthy: The neck H in series mode (phat'n'throaty) and both HH inner coils in series mode (phat'n'growly). They are nothing like what you can get from a HS or HH (StingRay). And then you have all those different settings in passive as well...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dg0lcR5njo"]YouTube- Ernie Ball 25th Anniversary HH 5 String Bass[/ame]

 

[tommixx]

Good choice!

IMO, within all the available options the HH offers two that are especially noteworthy: The neck H in series mode (phat'n'throaty) and both HH inner coils in series mode (phat'n'growly). They are nothing like what you can get from a HS or HH (StingRay). And then you have all those different settings in passive as well...

YouTube- Ernie Ball 25th Anniversary HH 5 String Bass

These are currently the 2 main settings I use! You can NOT get these tones from anything else out there I don't think...These 2 settings are making it VERY hard for me to decide what Roasted Maple to get!

Peace,

T

 

[bovinehost]

Right. Now after I do the dishes and get the newborn to sleep, I'll have to go clean all this up. And while he wasn't exactly Chuck Rainey or Jaco or whoever, this is not the place to go slagging anyone's skills. Expect editing in a bit.