Question Black Sugar Roasted Numbers....

[ScreaminFloyd]

Now I know the timing is not good with NAMM around the corner. But, are there any numbers out there as to how many Black Sugar Roasted models were produced? I'm going to take a guess that if any Double Necks were produced that they would be the rarest. Then second would maybe be Pete's Roasted Rollers. Was F'omfg's JP Mystic a one off? or a neck switch? Just wondering how many brothers and sisters The Luke has...Thank's

 

[Big Poppa]

We dont release those numbers.sorry

 

[ScreaminFloyd]

I thought numbers on the Dargie's were released. If not, I apologize.

 

[GWDavis28]

There were numbers for the Dargie ones, but they may not have been 100%. When the Dargie 2's came out no numbers were released if memory serves me right.

Glenn |B)

 

[Sweat]

Now I know the timing is not good with NAMM around the corner. But, are there any numbers out there as to how many Black Sugar Roasted models were produced? I'm going to take a guess that if any Double Necks were produced that they would be the rarest. Then second would maybe be Pete's Roasted Rollers. Was F'omfg's JP Mystic a one off? or a neck switch? Just wondering how many brothers and sisters The Luke has...Thank's

Yep the MD is a one off, right place right time well as far as numbers we will never know but if one uses reasonable logic, quite a few were made, GC ordered lots of BMS roasted JP's and also had the turquoise plus my one off
And they had the same for basses plus the roasted honey burst, and several other dealers got in on it so JP and SR most popular but I am betting in the thousands on total production

 

[Colin]

the only time I have seen numbers released is for special runs like the redwood bass (100 worldwide) BFR JP in Bahama for GC (50) and so on. No private company ever releases private info.

 

[ScreaminFloyd]

Yep the MD is a one off, right place right time well as far as numbers we will never know but if one uses reasonable logic,

Ok, I'm not that smart. Now I'm wondering if the serial numbers will know what the colour the MM guitar is and what kind of neck was installed? For example: Would your "one off" JP mystic serial number be listed as a Mystic Dream with a Roasted neck? Before you guys get mad at me, The reason I'm asking is because my Luke RM Black Sugar was sold as a LE, But as a LE I don't know what that means. LE what? Now what if someone put the RM Ebony Luke neck on a custom painted Luke Guitar? Would the serial number come back as a RM black sugar Luke? I think F'ing posted before that Scott Put the RM neck on the JP Mystic Dream. So is that a limited Edition "one off" and would the serial number identify that?

"Now since there sems to be some confusion about the MD JP, let me explain it the way it was presented to me at the show!

Guitar Center wanted a roasted guitar and bass for this show, to show them off and prep people for whats to come

Anyways the did not have a black sugar body ready for the JP so Scott placed the roasted neck on a MD JP body and well there you go roasted MD". <----F'ing


I'm not trying to ruffle feathers here...please. I just want to know that the RM luke is special to me and that the guitar is documented with the serial number. Thank you

 

[GWDavis28]

The serial numbers only show whats in their database. The EBMM serial numbers aren't like Fender or Gibson's. When they put a plate on the guitar that has a serial number on it, they just grab one from the a box. Once the guitar has a number then all of it's data is tied to that serial number. The reason there is a serial number thread is to get the correct information from EBMM.

Does that make sense?

Glenn |B)

 

[ScreaminFloyd]

The serial numbers only show whats in their database. The EBMM serial numbers aren't like Fender or Gibson's. When they put a plate on the guitar that has a serial number on it, they just grab one from the a box. Once the guitar has a number then all of it's data is tied to that serial number. The reason there is a serial number thread is to get the correct information from EBMM.

Does that make sense?

Glenn |B)

What correct information? Does the serial number tell the Colour of the Body and type of neck and Model?

 

[GWDavis28]

The serial number is probably tied in with the guitars information in a database. The number on the guitar is just that, a number and nothing more.

Ok?

Glenn |B)

 

[Colin]

LE means Limited Edition. The serial number is linked to the build codes. EBMM can use the build codes to tell you the exact specs plus DOB. the shipping box should have all that info on the end of it as well.

 

[beej]

Yep ... the serial # isn't indicative of anything. It's just a key into a database that lists the specs of each guitar. Your serial # would pull up the particular specs for yours.

 

[ScreaminFloyd]

LE means Limited Edition. The serial number is linked to the build codes. EBMM can use the build codes to tell you the exact specs plus DOB. the shipping box should have all that info on the end of it as well.

Thank you, I got it now. I got the box for my JP BFR from my dealer. I did not get the box for the BSR Luke. I'm going to go ask if they still have it. Thank's

 

[phatduckk]

if/when we get numbers from MM its just b/c Dargin or BP felt like randomly sharing that info.

a few times we've been lucky and either numbers were explicitly given out or hinted at. either way - for the most part that data is kept under wraps

 

[ScreaminFloyd]

Yep ... the serial # isn't indicative of anything. It's just a key into a database that lists the specs of each guitar. Your serial # would pull up the particular specs for yours.

I'm so losing it. My wife explained it to me from your post Beej. So if someone changed something around on a guitar. Music Man would know Via the Data base that something was original or changed around. To us, It's just letters and numbers. Means nothing....Thank you

 

[GoKart Mozart]

Right...it's not like a VIN number on a car (ex: the 8th digit tells you the engine, the 9th digit is the carpet color, etc).

 

[PeteDuBaldo]

Right...it's not like a VIN number on a car (ex: the 8th digit tells you the engine, the 9th digit is the carpet color, etc).

Well, th build code is like the VIN.

Example:
Serial G49241 would be linked to build #777-BS-RE-00, DOB 11/23/10, WO 5353463

777 is the body code for BFR Silhouette Gold Roller
BS is the paint code for Black Sugar
RE is the neck code for Roasted (maple) w/ Ebony
00 is the pickguard code for "none"
DOB is November 23, 2010
WO is Work Order #5353463

 

[peterd79]

What happend to just playing 'em?

 

[PeteDuBaldo]

What happend to just playing 'em?

No kidding. I've been playing them so much that I haven't really been here in a while!

 

[GWDavis28]

No kidding. I've been playing them so much that I haven't really been here in a while!

Wish I had the time.

Glenn |B)