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dwells
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If it sounds good it is good.
Big Poppa
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Not to start a flame war.....but John Suhr is a persistent critic of us...It's too bad as I think he makes great Fender based stuff. Dudley will be responding.
Its simple first off they moved the circuit board so you can see the wiring....we dont just stuff wiring in like that....
And Rob Turner may have sour grapes in that he has lost Luke as an endorsee....Luke is using Di Marzios on his Luke 3
Luke didn't like the active X tone control....He basically doesnt use the tone control on this guitar. Bruno implies that we are trying to decieve people but it is no skin off our backs we make what the artist wants.
Its simple first off they moved the circuit board so you can see the wiring....we dont just stuff wiring in like that....
And Rob Turner may have sour grapes in that he has lost Luke as an endorsee....Luke is using Di Marzios on his Luke 3
Luke didn't like the active X tone control....He basically doesnt use the tone control on this guitar. Bruno implies that we are trying to decieve people but it is no skin off our backs we make what the artist wants.
Big Poppa
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p.s. not one customer has had an issue.....if they do we will steer them in the right direction....Should we make them how Bruno wants them or Rob Turner or Luke?
Flame war? I'll bite
Persistent critic?
Where did I criticize EB? I have said nothing but good things about EB. Just cause "I" prefer to not paint over the shield coat is hardly criticism but personal preference for specific reasons. This electronics cavity post at HRI wasn't mine, I was just trying to guess the issue that was posted.
PS....70% of our sales are not Fender based shapes.
Have a nice day !
John Suhr
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Guitarburetor
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Wouldn"t it be nice if questions were directed to the people who could answer them? But then, I suppose drama has it's own life to live...
The story goes like this- I installed the EMG-X pickups in Luke's Gold guitar at a gig. I had every intention of installing the active Tone module, but sound check was looming and Luke said "just put the new pickups in there and let me check it out". After the sound check he said "I love 'em, let's not mess with it. Later, we put the active Tone module in a guitar for him with the EMG-X pickups, but he wasn't digging it, so we left his main guitar alone. Whatever affect the passive Tone control has on the output, he likes it better and was able to get the sound he wanted. As always, when we make a production model, we make it just like the signature artist uses it.
Now, to address the other issues in the link BP forwarded to me-
This version of the 5-way switch is used because it has a lever long enough to go through the wood, since there is no pickguard. Kinda boring, but true.
Whatever percentage of the time Luke DOES use a pickup combination other than Bridge alone, or Neck alone, is why the other 3 positions are there.
The PC board IS there to neatly, and reliably, make all connections to the pickups, the DC power, and the controls. No need for tape, heatshrink tubing or lots of bulky connectors and screw terminal connections.
Rob Turner is certainly the expert on the design of his products, and someone I respect. Having read both Rob's and Bruno's comments, I did what any wise person who cares about their products and reputation might do- I got Luke guitars with both X and non-X pickups and checked them out. From Rob's explanation of the pickup's (active) output impedence, it made sense that connecting the same tone control to the non-X pickup with 10k output impedence would also affect the sound, if connecting it to the X pickup with a 2k impedance did. What I found out is connecting the typical EMG passive tone control (25k pot and .1uF capacitor)to either pickup had a similar result, which was a slight high frequency roll-off and a slight (but noticeable) drop in output.
Luke is one of the greatest guitarists of all time, and the expert on what he likes, which in this case is the EMG-X pickups with the passive Tone control.
The story goes like this- I installed the EMG-X pickups in Luke's Gold guitar at a gig. I had every intention of installing the active Tone module, but sound check was looming and Luke said "just put the new pickups in there and let me check it out". After the sound check he said "I love 'em, let's not mess with it. Later, we put the active Tone module in a guitar for him with the EMG-X pickups, but he wasn't digging it, so we left his main guitar alone. Whatever affect the passive Tone control has on the output, he likes it better and was able to get the sound he wanted. As always, when we make a production model, we make it just like the signature artist uses it.
Now, to address the other issues in the link BP forwarded to me-
This version of the 5-way switch is used because it has a lever long enough to go through the wood, since there is no pickguard. Kinda boring, but true.
Whatever percentage of the time Luke DOES use a pickup combination other than Bridge alone, or Neck alone, is why the other 3 positions are there.
The PC board IS there to neatly, and reliably, make all connections to the pickups, the DC power, and the controls. No need for tape, heatshrink tubing or lots of bulky connectors and screw terminal connections.
Rob Turner is certainly the expert on the design of his products, and someone I respect. Having read both Rob's and Bruno's comments, I did what any wise person who cares about their products and reputation might do- I got Luke guitars with both X and non-X pickups and checked them out. From Rob's explanation of the pickup's (active) output impedence, it made sense that connecting the same tone control to the non-X pickup with 10k output impedence would also affect the sound, if connecting it to the X pickup with a 2k impedance did. What I found out is connecting the typical EMG passive tone control (25k pot and .1uF capacitor)to either pickup had a similar result, which was a slight high frequency roll-off and a slight (but noticeable) drop in output.
Luke is one of the greatest guitarists of all time, and the expert on what he likes, which in this case is the EMG-X pickups with the passive Tone control.
DrKev
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And that, my dear ladies and gentlemen, is what we call "straight from the horse's mouth". Thanks to Dudley for taking time out of his day.
My bat sense is tingling, time to lock this one down before anyone else thinks they are John Suhr.
My bat sense is tingling, time to lock this one down before anyone else thinks they are John Suhr.
Big Poppa
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Mogeen is John Suhr and welcome. I want to publicly apologize for listening to and passing judgements for qoutes that were attributed to John that he never said. John I hope you accept my apology....Oh... and you are wlecome here.....under any name. You do great work.
Big Poppa
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From John Surh....
Re: Sup
Please post this for me to that thread.
No problems !
I have never said anything bad about EB. I think you guys make great guitars for great money and I scratch my head to figure out how you do it.
The internet can be very evil and full of agendas and gossip.
All is good between me and everyone at EB !
Thanks
John Suhr (yes I am mogeen)
And now a big group hug!
Re: Sup
Please post this for me to that thread.
No problems !
I have never said anything bad about EB. I think you guys make great guitars for great money and I scratch my head to figure out how you do it.
The internet can be very evil and full of agendas and gossip.
All is good between me and everyone at EB !
Thanks
John Suhr (yes I am mogeen)
And now a big group hug!
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