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Whatever is going on with jeans will hit guitars a year later.
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ScreaminFloyd
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I'm not a fan of Relic'd Guitars either. I really try to take care of my gear as best I can. But, Like LawDaddy said....I would do flips all day long for a Nitro finished Ernie Ball Music Man Guitar !! Even a Limited Run to see how well they will sell. I think the Laws are tough in Cali concering Nitro. But if there were a way to Spray them elsewhere. I would buy !
Astrofreq
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Ahhh....once again, I'm the weirdo. I actually think relic guitars look cool and I don't believe for a minute that no one else here thinks that relic'd guitars don't look cool at least somewhat. I don't see myself playing one, but I get it. The music business is about image and having a beat up looking guitar is in. It isn't rocket surgery.
Sure, it is kind of poser-ish, but some people think having a signature model guitar is poser-ish as well.
Sure, it is kind of poser-ish, but some people think having a signature model guitar is poser-ish as well.
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tommyindelaware
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i do buy pre-washed jeans......so whats the difference? nobody buys NEW looking jeans....
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Barny
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I think each to there own, I have said before my dad has a few "F****r" Relics and loves them, I think they are great instruments and have a great vibe, but I prefer the quality, feel and innovation of MusicMan guitars. My dads main reason for getting in to relics was that he liked the feel of the necks, finding Nitro a bit "sticky", all of his have no finish whatsoever on the neck, exactly like most of my MM guitars!
I would much rather the MM guys kept blowing us away with new innovations and moving the electric guitar forward than spend there time finding out which belt buckle gives the best dings and which kind of dirt they need to rub in to the necks to make it look "old".
However having said all that, i don't need much of a reason to justify buying more guitars so I would most likely buy a MM relic if they made one!
I would much rather the MM guys kept blowing us away with new innovations and moving the electric guitar forward than spend there time finding out which belt buckle gives the best dings and which kind of dirt they need to rub in to the necks to make it look "old".
However having said all that, i don't need much of a reason to justify buying more guitars so I would most likely buy a MM relic if they made one!
Jack FFR1846
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Nitro today is not the same as nitro in the 50's. The government outlawed the stuff long ago. Yah, newer nitro'd guitars can be "relic'd" and will fade, but I find a lot of the views of newer players on old guitars a bit funny. I once had a low end relic'd-by-the-factory offered to me in trade for one of my guitars. The wear didn't look at all authentic and the whole thing was clearcoated......even over the worn-to-wood. While I understand that this is a good thing in that it seals the wood, it really made the thing look cheap.
I have my guitar that my parents bought me in 1969 and it looks quite good. There is some mild finish checking and the white binding has yellowed a bit and the headstock overlay has shrunk, but it doesn't look like someone threw it out the back of a pickup and dragged it down a gravel road for a mile either.
Here's what I think would be cool on the EBMM front. Buy up a bunch of older silos and sub-1's. Sand down the finish and spray on a new finish. Then spray on another color. Then bang the crap out of it and wear the forearm area. Sell them as the "Classics" series or something. Not only would it be a similar shaped guitar to the relics out there, but it would pull used EBMM's off the market, raising the overall price because supply would be lower. Sort of like a company buying its own stock to increase stock value. I don't really think this is a mainline factory idea as it would be very labor intensive, but sort of a cool idea for a small company who could be associated with EBMM for distribution and such. Maybe pair with Guitar Center to find the used guitars to start with.
I have my guitar that my parents bought me in 1969 and it looks quite good. There is some mild finish checking and the white binding has yellowed a bit and the headstock overlay has shrunk, but it doesn't look like someone threw it out the back of a pickup and dragged it down a gravel road for a mile either.
Here's what I think would be cool on the EBMM front. Buy up a bunch of older silos and sub-1's. Sand down the finish and spray on a new finish. Then spray on another color. Then bang the crap out of it and wear the forearm area. Sell them as the "Classics" series or something. Not only would it be a similar shaped guitar to the relics out there, but it would pull used EBMM's off the market, raising the overall price because supply would be lower. Sort of like a company buying its own stock to increase stock value. I don't really think this is a mainline factory idea as it would be very labor intensive, but sort of a cool idea for a small company who could be associated with EBMM for distribution and such. Maybe pair with Guitar Center to find the used guitars to start with.
tommyindelaware
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I think relic'd guitars look pretty cool. But I'd prefer to get one on the cheap.
I don't want to pay $2k for a guitar that looks beat up. To me, $2k for a guitar is a lot of money and I would want to take care of it. The thought of babying a new relic'd guitar because it's valuable seems counter intuitive.
I don't want to pay $2k for a guitar that looks beat up. To me, $2k for a guitar is a lot of money and I would want to take care of it. The thought of babying a new relic'd guitar because it's valuable seems counter intuitive.
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Roubster
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I've never really been a fan of relics. I dont think I would shell out so much money for something like that new. How is it going to to look like actually in 15-20 years if you are actually playing it? On that note though, I did play a "antiqued" Suhr at some point just to test out an amp, and they did a really nice job on it actually. But again, I would not buy it.
sballow
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I just picked up a beat up old Axis and it is pretty relic'd. The neck was really dirty but a good cleaning and it just looked worn (which is pretty cool). Somebody had put in a Seymour Duncan EVH pickup so the non matching pick up is bad ass. The hardware was all tarnished but works great and there are bunch of little dings all around and some of the paint is worn off on the back. No way on Earth would I pay like 3 grand for one of these but I am satisfied with the price I did pay. (It wasn't so much)
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I think it is alot like cars...I would never buy a kit car....except that I am very tempted to get a cobra....I cannot jusify the 500K price tag for a real one....For 50K you get the same car....
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Jack FFR1846
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I sold this for $20k earlier this year. 300hp FI 302, just rebuilt the rear with all new parts for $900, 11 year old paint that I did in the garage in the background (poly). The real one that it replicates was owned by Dick Smith, who set the speed record at Daytona of 198mph. The real one is for sale for well over $1M. I could throw the keys to someone to go get more beer with no problem. I never tried to relic it. Got a few chips here and there....
e.mate
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The car comparison is a valid point.. I guess guitar players are like that.
And by the way, if you need your axe relic'd send it to me... I have a wonderful electric tool, I can do that
Kidding... Never would I touch the EBMM. Let them age naturally...
And by the way, if you need your axe relic'd send it to me... I have a wonderful electric tool, I can do that
Kidding... Never would I touch the EBMM. Let them age naturally...
mikeller
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Yuk, no thanks for me either.
AllenJ
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I doubt I would by a relic'd EBMM but I certainly love my naturally relic'd neck on my very road worn EVH. I had a recent fret redressing done and it plays pretty darn good now with just a little buzzing here and there. Most of that wear was done by previous owner(s) so I can't take the credit but...
I also love my new Axis Tribute neck which has a very similar worn in feel of course whilst looking so nice an shinny new!
I would never want to see an nice bright colorful quilt job get a relic treatment. That just does not make sense to me.
Sure other Str@t type guitars look at feel great relic'd but I just don't buy EBMM stuff for that purpose.
I also love my new Axis Tribute neck which has a very similar worn in feel of course whilst looking so nice an shinny new!
I would never want to see an nice bright colorful quilt job get a relic treatment. That just does not make sense to me.
Sure other Str@t type guitars look at feel great relic'd but I just don't buy EBMM stuff for that purpose.
