No love for the Reflex?

[Skinny1]

Guitar center platinum has a beautiful trans black reflex for sale on their website.If it had a maple board I would have bought it already.Might be worth checking out if you don't like the standard colors.I am holding out for a black gamechanger with a piezo but it sure has been a long wait.

 

[dwells]

i LOVE mine!!!!!!Ernie Ball Music Man REFLEX - Dean Wells - YouTube

 

[ily]

Guitar center platinum has a beautiful trans black reflex for sale on their website.If it had a maple board I would have bought it already.Might be worth checking out if you don't like the standard colors.I am holding out for a black gamechanger with a piezo but it sure has been a long wait.

I've see it

first i'm for France i can't buy it
second i don't like white pickup ring
@Gerry sorry for my terrible ....
@ David thanks to write that i think

 

[straycat113]

I believe Sterling has been brutally honest on this and more than he had too and it makes total sense to me. Keeping it real the hook up with GC has been great for EBMM and GC even uses an Axis Tribute in their Platinum Room adds in the guitar magazines. Also out of the dozen companies that have gear stocked in there Platinum Room EBMM has the third highest amount of inventory with quite a few hundred guitars and only 4 of the dozen companies are in the hundreds.Sterling has stated they offered different finishes but GC dictated the colors, I guess they want the safest basic colors they believe they can move with that model. I believe everyone puts playability and tone at the top of the list when buying a guitar, but just like a car looks play a big part in guitar sales. I own a beauty of a 25th so I aint complaining and every other EB model comes in knock your socks off finishes and tops. Also they could always do a limited run of some wicked finishes or tops through the Premier Dealer route if enough noise is made on the forum, for those who want something different bad enough. For all the new guys Sterling usually does something special at least once a year, like the Dargies, Luke True Gold, Axis Tributes and Roasted Maple/ Black Sugar run to name a few. Also the Game Changer is going to be a Reflex which can really shake things up.

I have learned that what sounds great on the forum for us die hards, is not always the best move for the company when it comes to the general publics taste.But Sterling always keeps things fresh and interesting around here and I am sure the Reflex will have it's day.

 

[Big Poppa]

it could be platinum and be a struggle until someone famous plays it.

We had one of the biggest in the business singer sonwirter guitarist who raved and raved I have the emails....only to have it be a studio tool...another legend with a sig guitar asked for one....its in the studio.

 

[ily]

I've seen some pics of Mister LUKATHER With à 25th in studio
And now he change his sign guitar ....

Can't Walt to have one

 

[luv]

We had one of the biggest in the business singer sonwirter guitarist who raved and raved I have the emails....only to have it be a studio tool....

I saw him play it live. Unfortunately, he only broke the 25th out for one song, but the song was intended to be the signature moment of the concert. Then he put it away and went back to his usual stuff.

 

[threeminutesboy]

I saw him play it live. Unfortunately, he only broke the 25th out for one song, but the song was intended to be the signature moment of the concert. Then he put it away and went back to his usual stuff.

May I be so bold to ask you who is he?

another reflex moment with natural finish and what seems to be a roasted neck but I'm not sure

 

[jvh]

That natural finish really gives the impression of a much higher quality instrument. Good find!

 

[straycat113]

Wow I am sure that has just made a lot of guys jealous! That is the hottest one I have seen, even better than the trans finished ones in my book.

 

[luv]

May I be so bold to ask you who is he?

Mayer.....at least that's who I think BP was referencing.....that's who I was talking about.

 

[guitar.michael]

John was playing his 25th/Reflex on the Battle Studies tour. After listening to the record a million times I could swear he played the 25th/Reflex on the recordings as well. Don't know though.

 

[ily]

This naturel finish is the best i've seen for a Reflex
I want one like this

 

[ozzyrules]

Wow ! That thing is beautiful.

 

[lumberjack]

Wow I am sure that has just made a lot of guys jealous! That is the hottest one I have seen, even better than the trans finished ones in my book.

+1 That with a roasted neck would be killer.

 

[Warg Master]

I like it, I would love to own one eventually. If I go into guitar center, it's the guitar I pickup to play first. It's on my list of guitar to get. Just not next on my list... maybe.... maybe it is.... I don't know.... it could be... stop interrogating me!!!

 

[BUC]

I have a 25th and it's become my number one. I love the fact that a lot of people don't know what it is but it certainly looks nice. Love the neck. The sustain at low gain is awesome. Probably the most incredible thing I like about it is how stable the tuning is. I swear this thing never goes out of tune. Easily my most stable guitar.

I have a few minor peeves but not enough to knock it off the number one spot.

I'm on guitar probation with the missus but if I was going to get another one I'd get another reflex...or maybe a silo...but that gamechanger looks very interesting...

 

[guitarp77]

Maybe a stupid *noob* question, but is the 25th a special edition of the Reflex guitar? Or is it the "normal" reflex you get in GC?

 

[luv]

Maybe a stupid *noob* question, but is the 25th a special edition of the Reflex guitar? Or is it the "normal" reflex you get in GC?

The 25th Anniversary was a special make guitar....essentially a BFR that became the Reflex. The 25th came in Venetian Red Color only, flame and quilt.....though the flame is clearly the better option!

 

[ghunter]

I'm currently in the market for a new guitar as I downsize a little bit (8 guitars and 3 basses is probably a little excessive), and am looking for something that would be an upgrade from my Axis Super Sport. I've been really happy with the ASS since I bought it (new) five years ago, but I still find myself reaching for my other guitars when I don't want an in-your-face tone. Although I'm not looking for one guitar to replace all of the others, I would like one guitar that will do 95% of what I want.

If it helps, I'm 40 now and was a semi-professional musician through most of my 20's. I have plenty of disposable income and when I'm in between projects (like now) I enjoy spending my time composing, recording, and collaborating with others like me. I wouldn't plan on ever gigging with this "master" guitar in order to keep it pristine and cared for.

The Reflex and Game Changer seem to fit the bill perfectly, but if I'm buying something above $1,500 I also expect to have something that looks special and will look good on the rack or on the wall. As I get older, sure that's very important to me!

I find myself now looking in other directions, where a few years ago my money would have gone *instantly* to EBMM. The PRS Mira and 513 are starting to look good, Carvin has some beautiful tung-oiled options with neck-through bodies, and although I'm not really actively looking right now I do know that other builders have products that meet my wish list so I'm not searching for something that isn't out there.

I am hoping that the 2012 limited edition is some sort of classy non-sparkly burst, at which time I would jump in and order a Reflex or Game Changer on the spot (I want to learn more about the Game Changer first). Until then, I don't find the Reflex attractive enough to pull the trigger on.

I have some good ideas (beyond the above) as to why the Reflex isn't selling, but they really all circle back to the company that EBMM is trying to be and what Sterling Ball has in mind and I respect that. You can't be all things to all people.

Thanks for listening!