• Ernie Ball
  • MusicMan
  • Sterling by MusicMan

DROP_D_5150

Member
Joined
Jun 21, 2005
Messages
5
Location
Tacoma,WA
I have a gloss black Olp mm1 and i would like to put a floyd rose on there, i have seen other olps done this way, i just dont like the floating trem and the ugly route job they do with there "floyd equiped guitars.i like the sound of them flush against the body,anyway do you guys know any quality shops or persons that could do this for me? and if so how much will it cost me? thanks...DROP_D... :cool:
 

spkirby

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 3, 2004
Messages
1,273
Location
UK
You will be a LOT better off saving the $'s on an OLP mod job, save up a bit more and then buy a proper EBMM Axis...the quality is poles apart and a real Axis will blow you away. ;)
 

MN246

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 17, 2005
Messages
343
Location
Oregon
I agree with Spkirby, dump the OLP and get an Axis. You'll be glad you did. ;)
 

peterd79

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 27, 2005
Messages
2,878
Location
NOR*CAL
Olp... Floyd Rose

Well...well...well... We've got another OLP Owner! I have to admit that I was a bit weary of purchasing an OLP. I did about a month or two of research and decided to go for it. After decideing that I was willing to risk the $450 bucks for a floyd rose set up... I was off to my local retailer to buy one. After the two hour drive i found out that they had none in stock... I decided to head back home and wait! I then went on e-bay and started to look around. I found one! $265 from a authorized dealer. Turns out this one is a prototype... and i belive it's set up with Dimarzio's. Transparent Tobacco Sunburst with a Floyd! It's not in the catalogue! You can't find it anywhere! It even has a real flame maple top. It plays just as nice as the AXIS... minus the name! I'm so stoked! :cool:
 

Jimi D

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 27, 2003
Messages
1,962
Location
Ottawa ON
peterd79 said:
It plays just as nice as the AXIS... minus the name! I'm so stoked! :cool:

I don't want to sound like I'm coming down too hard on OLPs, but the Axis and OLP MM1 are completely unrelated instruments. The neck shapes and frets are utterly, totally and radically different. The MM1's "Floyd" single locking trem is really not too hot - pretty much bottom of the Floyd-copy heap, imho. And though it may be your OPINION that an OLP plays "just as nice" as an Axis, it's not an opinion I share. I have owned OLPs, and they are nice guitars for the money, but they are certainly not in the same league as a real Axis (or Silhouette, or JP, or Stingray). The ONLY thing that OLPs have in common with the real things is that they roughly approximate the body shape and have the licensed 4x2 headstock design. Bottom line is that they're built in China using Chinese parts, and that's about it...

And for the record, there's no way that the pickups in your OLP are the same as in an Axis - you cannot get those pickups except installed in an Axis. In fact, I would be stunned if they were Dimarzios of any stripe - how do you make profits on a guitar that someone can sell for $265 (that's after shipping it half way around the world!) if you're putting $160 worth of pickups in it?

my 2¢ :)
 

edensdad

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 27, 2004
Messages
591
Location
Brooksville, FL, USA
OLP = Officially Licensed Products, right?

Sportswear? Hats and cups? Guitars?

Seriously, I thought about buying the OLP axis doubleneck because I like doublenecks, but my experience with lower/medium priced gu8itars hasn't been that good, so I'll keep saving for that PRS 22-12 :D

(maybe that'll get EBMM working on a 12-string, right?)

>^..^<
 

koogie2k

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 28, 2002
Messages
5,859
Location
Moyock, NC
OLP's are not in the same game as an Axis. Not an opinion, that is fact. Decent for what they do......but just as nice....nope. I know, I had an OLP and I have played many an Axis. The differences are too many to list, but, the Axis won hands down. :cool:
 

slukather

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 17, 2003
Messages
1,589
Location
Melbourne, Australia
edensdad said:
OLP = Officially Licensed Products, right?

Sportswear? Hats and cups? Guitars?

Seriously, I thought about buying the OLP axis doubleneck because I like doublenecks.

I though about the same thing, but putting a piezo on the 12 string, like JP double neck.

Scott.
 

Philip

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 13, 2005
Messages
773
Location
Poland
DROP_D_5150 said:
I have a gloss black Olp mm1 and i would like to put a floyd rose on there, i have seen other olps done this way, i just dont like the floating trem and the ugly route job they do with there "floyd equiped guitars.i like the sound of them flush against the body,anyway do you guys know any quality shops or persons that could do this for me? and if so how much will it cost me? thanks...DROP_D... :cool:


hey I played those OLPs several times, they are the best guitars for the money (propably that is the reason they are licenced by EB) but I don't like messing the guitars and putting a floyd would be a big messing IMO
 

blackspy

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 28, 2002
Messages
982
Location
Canada
Hey DROP_D, regardless of all the advice and opinions, this is probably not the best place to be asking for advice on your OLP guitar.
 

peterd79

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 27, 2005
Messages
2,878
Location
NOR*CAL
I have to say that I am a huge fan of the EBMM guitars and especially the AXIS. I have always wanted to buy an EBMM AXIS and be like Eddie Van Halen... My dream guitar was the EBMM Axis that he uses on the FU@K album. The transparent tobacco sunburst... with the OLP i thought i'd get close. but it's the real deal minus the name on the headstock. GO FIGURE!
 

mesavox

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 4, 2004
Messages
723
Location
Guymon Oklahoma
I'm not an OLP hater, but to say the OLP Axis plays the same as the EB Axis is absolutely untrue. The OLP has a bigger neck all the way around. The finish is different, the frets are different, and the string tension is way different.

I'm a JPM player and the Axis isn't really all that high on my wish list (the new Morse Y2D I am seriously jonesing for though... whew...:) ) but the Axis neck is a work of art and the OLP axis neck is just a typical D shaped neck.

I can see a need for the OLP. There were no cool looking guitars in that price range when I started playing. 400 bucks was cheap and a guitar in that price range sucked. compared to a 400 dollar guitar of today. I too have thought of getting the double neck and putting piezos in it (both top and bottom) to have a 12 string with piezos that I could quickly get to in a song. My friend has the baritone and we've been very pleased with it and what it has done to open up our band's sound and I'm trying to figure out how to get another one so we can tune it different.

But, if you are trying to convince yourself that you don't need an Axis to have a super nice guitar and are planning on making a ton of upgrades to the OLP to get it in that nice range, forget it. You'd have to change tuners, pickups (OLP are not even close to the Dimarzios in the axis), the electronics throughout, the bridge(one major flaw in the OLP Baritone Raymond has is the high e saddle is off and it dulls out the string on every fret and open...bad design), and have it refretted to get anywhere close. By that time, you have Axis' going for 900 bucks at guitar centers all over the place and you don't have to do anything to it.

A nice affordable alternative to get by when you just need a guiatar the OLP is. A replacement for the MM when you just want to try and cheat the price system it is not. By time you are through cheating you have spent the same anyway.
 

spkirby

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 3, 2004
Messages
1,273
Location
UK
peterd79 said:
I have to say that I am a huge fan of the EBMM guitars and especially the AXIS. I have always wanted to buy an EBMM AXIS and be like Eddie Van Halen... My dream guitar was the EBMM Axis that he uses on the FU@K album. The transparent tobacco sunburst... with the OLP i thought i'd get close. but it's the real deal minus the name on the headstock. GO FIGURE!

Oh come on, who you trying to fool??...if the OLP was the "real deal" do you think we'd be shelling out $600-$700 extra just for an Axis decal on the headstock?

Wood, electronics & hardware, finish, and quality in an EBMM Axis (or JP, Sil, Al and so on) are vastly vastly better than anything in the OLP range.

The reality is that the OLP "Axis" is a good beginners guitar, an EBMM Axis is a pro level instrument. The difference, if you've tried them both, is huge.
 
Last edited:

peterd79

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 27, 2005
Messages
2,878
Location
NOR*CAL
Gentelmen...
Please hear me out... i'm not trying to persuade anyone in one direction or another; however, I know that the OLP that I have is not an everyday run of the mill OLP. I have played the EBMM AXIS and I loved it. When I got my OLP it was very similar to the AXIS. I've see other OLP's that are not of the same quality as mine. I've been playing for over 10 years and i would not consider myself a beginner. I have a friend who's played for over 37 yeras and was very impressed with the Quality of the OLP... That being said I realize that this is an EB forum... so in an attept to not offend anyone I will not refer to my OLP on this forum. I've stated my facts (based upon the guitar that I own) and it is merely my opinion. I appreciate your input; however, it is not my intent to offend!
 

Big Poppa

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 9, 2005
Messages
18,598
Location
Coachella & SLO, California
Hey lets not run off our cousins that own an olp. Those OLP royalties help fund this baby. There were seeveral reasons why we did the OLP thing the first is we were being ripped off right and left by weasels. So we decided to develop a strategy that enabled us to participate in the price point but stay focused on making USA guitars and basses. One of the biggest reasons was to give people the opportunity to play their way to an original.

Question...How many reading this first bought an olp?
how many have or have owned an olp?

SOme of the specialty guitars like the double neck and the baritone are really kind of fun especially when the usa baritone is a little expensive for how often you would use it but is great to own.
 

fogman

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 27, 2004
Messages
12,067
Location
ontario
Big Poppa said:
Hey lets not run off our cousins that own an olp. Those OLP royalties help fund this baby. There were seeveral reasons why we did the OLP thing the first is we were being ripped off right and left by weasels. So we decided to develop a strategy that enabled us to participate in the price point but stay focused on making USA guitars and basses. One of the biggest reasons was to give people the opportunity to play their way to an original.

Question...How many reading this first bought an olp?
how many have or have owned an olp?

SOme of the specialty guitars like the double neck and the baritone are really kind of fun especially when the usa baritone is a little expensive for how often you would use it but is great to own.

I personally like the OLPs. True it's not a music man, but it's an awesome guitar for $200-300.
If it weren't for the OLP, I would have never found out about EBMM. I had come across an OLP. saw the EBMM logo on the headstock then decided to investigate further!
 

peterd79

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 27, 2005
Messages
2,878
Location
NOR*CAL
Hey Big Poppa-
thanks! Back in the day when I was looking for an EBMM i was actually asked to consider a Jay Turser guitar which looked similar but was worth nothing. This was the salesman attempting to sell me a guitar that was CRAP! I ended up going with an ESP Eclipse that was (and still is ) fairly descent. I have a 56' Les Paul that is my main guitar... once I got the itch for the Music Man I realised that I could not afford the "real deal" so... i discovered OLP. I decided to go with it and ordered via the internet (through an authorized dealer) it came in and was much more guitar than i expected. I went to my local shop to have them do a once over and set up. they were blown away... they think (cannot confirm) that the pick-ups are dimarzio. This guitar according to OLP should have never existed and was a prototype the got out of the factory. The color has never been offered to the general public... So! I'm a very happy customer!

So... yeah support the OLP's and let us save up for an EBMM!
 
Top Bottom