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AySay

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:D I love the level of thought/detail in your speculations...

I still like the std. jps the best, but am very curious to see how these turn out.
 

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Can I go ahead and preorder one? As long as it has JPs name on it I know by osmosis I will play better with the new model. Also, if possible I'm requesting a mane around the outside instead of the standard binding.
 

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Also, John Petrucci signature picks have been released I believe. Have not found them in stores yet and was wondering if anyone had an opinion on them.
I took a pack of the JP Jazz III's on a gig this weekend. I found them to be ok. They are a tad larger than the typical Jazz III's. I use almost every flavor, ultex, max grip, the standard black ones, red ones, a few Eric Johnson Jazz III's. The Petrucci's are unique as opposed to the others because of the point of the pick is smoothed out. They seem to be more solid, but then again the standard Jazz III's are pretty thick 2.0mm. Let's just say that I did switch picks between a few songs/sets from the JP's and the ultex. I dropped an ultex (I can never find them being they are close to clear), and went back to the JP picks the remainder of the time. I honestly forgot that I was playing with the JP Jazz III. I gave a few to another guitarist to demo and he kept using it the entire night, but no comment on it, so I guess that's good..
 

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I took a pack of the JP Jazz III's on a gig this weekend. I found them to be ok. They are a tad larger than the typical Jazz III's. I use almost every flavor, ultex, max grip, the standard black ones, red ones, a few Eric Johnson Jazz III's. The Petrucci's are unique as opposed to the others because of the point of the pick is smoothed out. They seem to be more solid, but then again the standard Jazz III's are pretty thick 2.0mm. Let's just say that I did switch picks between a few songs/sets from the JP's and the ultex. I dropped an ultex (I can never find them being they are close to clear), and went back to the JP picks the remainder of the time. I honestly forgot that I was playing with the JP Jazz III. I gave a few to another guitarist to demo and he kept using it the entire night, but no comment on it, so I guess that's good..

Jumbo Jazz III for teh win.
 

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devin...some may look at the different jp models as playing with wood and finish....we think they are the evolution of a great artists fine tuning.

i'm not a JP player but love the guitars...
Every JP i've ever picked up along the progression of the line has been improved upon even if ever so slightly...

I would equate it to a NASCAR...
you see the same drivers week in and week out in the same car...
but after the qualifying runs and establishing the position the drivers (in this case JP) talks to the pit crew (BP and Crew) and makes ever so slight of adjustments to make sure the car (JP Sig Guitar) runs just right and makes the laps around the track easier and more comfortable...

The combination of woods and finishes, adjustments and tweaks are done in the never ending quest for perfect tone and playability and though each and every EBMM is incredible JP knows that BP and the EBMM Crew can make it even better...

Looking forward to the new mods
 

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I took a pack of the JP Jazz III's on a gig this weekend. I found them to be ok. They are a tad larger than the typical Jazz III's. I use almost every flavor, ultex, max grip, the standard black ones, red ones, a few Eric Johnson Jazz III's. The Petrucci's are unique as opposed to the others because of the point of the pick is smoothed out. They seem to be more solid, but then again the standard Jazz III's are pretty thick 2.0mm. Let's just say that I did switch picks between a few songs/sets from the JP's and the ultex. I dropped an ultex (I can never find them being they are close to clear), and went back to the JP picks the remainder of the time. I honestly forgot that I was playing with the JP Jazz III. I gave a few to another guitarist to demo and he kept using it the entire night, but no comment on it, so I guess that's good..

Thank you for such a detailed review! :) can't wait to try them.
 

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I think the speculation on the Stallion is interesting. We've seen the neck and headstock on early prototypes of this, and even if the design has changed it would seem that the emphasis is on the evolution of the body.
Further to that, if you look back at JP's gear - he's always played with "traditional" shaped guitars so it would seem out of character imo for him to suddenly sport something shaped like a BC Rich for example. If anything, I can imagine a more "sculpted" body like a Parker.
It also becomes interesting when you contemplate if this will become a 'replacement' design to his current models or if it will co-exist alongside them. Will he use both live...will the current JP line become obsolete...? Only time will tell, but I'm very excited to see what they have in store, should a production model get the green light.
 
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the only thing that makes any jp guitar obsolete is if customers dont order them

Sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant only in the context of John's usage.

I know that there are many JP fans who still like the pre BFR shapes and even if he switched to playing Stallions live and in the studio, I'm sure you would sell just as many of his existing models.
 

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I understand what you're saying. People generally are only interested in the latest and greatest. When John starts using a different guitar on stage more then others I automatically say: "I WANT THAT!" Unlike other markets, ill use smartphones for instance, obviously when a new model comes out i.e: iPhone 5 the previous models become obsolete almost automatically. Not only in functionality but in value as well. Guitars are a completely different beast though. It really does come down to ones personal preference. The great thing about the JP line is that there's something there for anyone. Original JP 6 have unfinished necks, JPX have a 5 way blade, BFR models have the gorgeous quilted/flame tops, Etc. I know I'm being a bit vague with the descriptions and each guitar has a lot more to offer than those features but, I'm sure you get my point. With that all being said I'm sure it holds true that when something is brand new and being marketed in the here and now those numbers are going to spike. I'm pretty certain BP has consistent numbers across the board with his JP line.
 
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I understand what you're saying. People generally are only interested in the latest and greatest. When John starts using a different guitar on stage more then others I automatically say: "I WANT THAT!" Unlike other markets, ill use smartphones for instance, obviously when a new model comes out i.e: iPhone 5 the previous models become obsolete almost automatically. Not only in functionality but in value as well. Guitars are a completely different beast though. It really does come down to ones personal preference. The great thing about the JP line is that there's something there for anyone. Original JP 6 have unfinished necks, JPX have a 5 way blade, BFR models have the gorgeous quilted/flame tops, Etc. I know I'm being a bit vague with the descriptions and each guitar has a lot more to offer than those features but, I'm sure you get my point. With that all being said I'm sure it holds true that when something is brand new and being marketed in the here and now those numbers are going to spike. I'm pretty certain BP has consistent numbers across the board with his JP line.

I really doubt JP will replace his entire arsenal of guitars with only Stallion's. When JPX came, he still kept his old guitars. Same with JPXI and JP12. I doubt the Stallion would be any different.
 

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I guess I fall into a different category. I am sure whatever EBMM makes instrument wise will be as good as can be done. I believe in EBMM and the quality they produce, and if an artist needs something different, I am happy they answer the call. Few companies stand behind their product or artists like EBMM. The Stallion will be a success I am sure.
I love the original JP because of the arm scoop. If I could put the arm scoop on the axis I would. Best feature I have found on any guitar. I play the JP7 as I find the neck to small on the 6, and I actually don't like signature models in general. However, the JP7 is the best 7 for me so I play them. When the PDN came out without the signature inlays, I jumped on a JP7 no piezo. The only thing JP will be the signature on the headstock. I like that idea for me personally. Not many folks play standard JP7's without piezo, but they are rock solid workhorses and the best value in a quality 7 anywhere. The bridge is absolutely awesome.
Will I check out a Stallion, you bet, but not because of JP. Because EBMM makes great stuff and if it offers me something new in terms of function that I can use, I wouldn't hestitate to buy. But it is hard to beat the Axis 6 strings and JP7s for me.
And I love when folks look at the axis and say "oh that was eddie's guitar". I say no, this is MY guitar.
 

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JP is pretty much using JP12s at this point - makes sense really - he asked for tweaks and it's currently what works for him. That being said if DT starts playing deeper catalog stuff where he needs his baritone or doubleneck, he'll probably use them. I know JP mentioned that he likes opaque colors and I think that's why we've probably seen a move away from the fancy maple tops in the last 3 JP models (X, XI XII). As always, it's an evolution so whatever comes next will be awesome and painstakingly spec'd out.
 

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I am wondering if there will be a JP13 or the Stallion will the considered the "anniversary" model for 2013.

I guess I fall into a different category. I am sure whatever EBMM makes instrument wise will be as good as can be done. I believe in EBMM and the quality they produce, and if an artist needs something different, I am happy they answer the call. Few companies stand behind their product or artists like EBMM. The Stallion will be a success I am sure.
I love the original JP because of the arm scoop. If I could put the arm scoop on the axis I would. Best feature I have found on any guitar. I play the JP7 as I find the neck to small on the 6, and I actually don't like signature models in general. However, the JP7 is the best 7 for me so I play them. When the PDN came out without the signature inlays, I jumped on a JP7 no piezo. The only thing JP will be the signature on the headstock. I like that idea for me personally. Not many folks play standard JP7's without piezo, but they are rock solid workhorses and the best value in a quality 7 anywhere. The bridge is absolutely awesome.
Will I check out a Stallion, you bet, but not because of JP. Because EBMM makes great stuff and if it offers me something new in terms of function that I can use, I wouldn't hestitate to buy. But it is hard to beat the Axis 6 strings and JP7s for me.
And I love when folks look at the axis and say "oh that was eddie's guitar". I say no, this is MY guitar.

Well put! :D
 
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