MAJESTY Discussion page!

[lrmf777]

Hi all. I'm not one to offer opinions on professional designs and manufacturing, hence the lack of posting. I'm still undecided about the Majesty. Thanks for the animation and overlays as visually it didn't seem that the top horn was in the same position as previous models. I was pleasantly surprised. I would've thought that there would be a loss of resonance with less wood and lighter weight? Was this an "issue" in the design or a compromise? Don't know the advantages of a single body vs bolt on neck?
A lot of questions, hopefully answered with the release of specs and getting my grubby hands on one.
Congrats MM on your new guitar which, no doubt, will be awesome, based on my experiences with your products.
Bummer about the unscrupulous. The anticipation before the release is always the best part. Feels like I got lucky, only to find out it was my cousin.

 

[Big Poppa]

hahahahahahahahaha.

 

[MrJJoncas]

I waited a few days to digest the guitar before posting. First, I thought it was....not what I was thinking. I was thinking to a more classic model, even with BP's warning about it being special. I just couldn't imagine JP playing with something weird, since he always played with a regular and balanced 2 horns guitar shape. So at first it was a surprise, but I knew it would grow on me and it did. I think it's a really cool looking guitar, it's out there, but it's awesome !!! I followed both thread about the Masjesty, thanks for all the updated BP !! It's really kind to you to go by all the comments, even the bad ones, and answer us !! I'm really looking to try one as soon as they're available !!! Again, félicitation BP !!!

 

[DrKev]

I would've thought that there would be a loss of resonance with less wood and lighter weight? Was this an "issue" in the design or a compromise? Don't know the advantages of a single body vs bolt on neck?

The guitar world is full to the brim of myths and superstitions. On the resonance vs body weight it depends who you ask. Some people say "well my heaviest LP has the best sustain" and some say "yeah but my lightest strat is the most resonant" (whatever the hell 'resonance' actually means, I don't know and I'm both a physicist and musician). Yet I know a lot people whose opinion I value who would say that the opposite is true. Each bases their opinion on their own experience (usually limited to a few guitars), i.e. anecdotal evidence. Every single medical researcher or scientist knows that anecdotal evidence is worth almost zero as proof of anything. Yet, in the guitar industry we the players are largely influenced by anecdotal evidence and theories without any proof.

Bolt on vs neck thu? Guitar players generally assume that bolt-on means less sustain yet there are people who have studied it and found the opposite. But there is no real consensus on the issue. Personally, I think the difference is negligible in actual use, i.e. when we are actually playing music (when 3db extra level after holding a note for 10 seconds is not something we care about because we're busy playing the darn song).

Again we come back to JP himself here. I can only assume he wanted the physical features for comfort and upper fret access and balance. The pickups and the construction and placement of different tone woods (which you guys have yet to see) take care of the tone.

Of course if JP thought a cereal box with strings on it was the holy grail of tone, EBMM would build it for him. His guitar, his ears, his call.

 

[kroma-ibk]

The guitar world is full to the brim of myths and superstitions.

That´s so true ;-).

I believe that a good musician before actual playing has to think how the note should sound. This just works if you don´t have to struggle with stringspacing, pickup positions or string action etc. Like in the IT, never change a running system. So the Majesty has the goods of the other signature guitars before, foremost of technical reasons. Even the neckshape on the Majesty could be very similar to the necks of the JP-line, mayby the radius could be different.

A Necktrough gives better access, but not more or less gain than bolton guitars IMO. Maybe the attack is a bit different, but that´s just a feeling. Some guitar players record with new strings other players never change the strings in order to have the right tone.

The Internet is an anonymous place, except for the NSA, (and it´s not a safe place as we all know @BP ;-) and therefore it´s easy to diss a guitar, a company or even JP. But that is not fair foremost to JP. It´s JPs guitar, so any way he wants this guitar, it is ok. Would be cool if those flamers had the opportunity the develop their own signature guitar, most of these guitars could be called "The Homer" I guess.(hope you are watching the simpsons).

 

[Tanax]

The guitar he used on Score is still the JP version I would like the most. Still waiting for a limited edition 're-issue' of that...

Good opportunity to admire it once more I think...

Definitely. It's both amazing finish-wise as well as sounding great with the different pickups. Would love to have the option to order a JP guitar with those pickups! The intro-"solo" to The Spirit Carries On illustrates the amazing sound with these pickups.

 

[Simon060]

Definitely. It's both amazing finish-wise as well as sounding great with the different pickups. Would love to have the option to order a JP guitar with those pickups! The intro-"solo" to The Spirit Carries On illustrates the amazing sound with these pickups.

For someone who hasn't read up on the history of that guitar, what are pickups in it, and how is it different from the regular JP6 or BFR (which I guess is what came out of the design)?

 

[PeteDuBaldo]

For someone who hasn't read up on the history of that guitar, what are pickups in it, and how is it different from the regular JP6 or BFR (which I guess is what came out of the design)?

It was based on the 20th Anniversary Silhouette and later turned into the BFR JP6. The prototype shown has an alder body, mahogany tone block, maple cap, and DiMarzio humbuckers (virtual/vintage PAF?) with the 20th Anniversary adjustment trim rings. The neck is maple with a rosewood fretboard, and the color is caramel burst.

The JP6 has a basswood body and maple neck with rosewood fretboard (usually).
The BFR JP6 has an alder body, mahogany tone block, maple cap, mahogany neck, and rosewood fretboard (usually).

 

[Tanax]

It was based on the 20th Anniversary Silhouette and later turned into the BFR JP6. The prototype shown has an alder body, mahogany tone block, maple cap, and DiMarzio humbuckers (virtual/vintage PAF?) with the 20th Anniversary adjustment trim rings. The neck is maple with a rosewood fretboard, and the color is caramel burst.

The JP6 has a basswood body and maple neck with rosewood fretboard (usually).
The BFR JP6 has an alder body, mahogany tone block, maple cap, mahogany neck, and rosewood fretboard (usually).

Yes, what Pete said. So basically, the prototype is a BFR JP6 in a different/non-existent-for-customers finish as well as different pickups.

 

[Big Poppa]

or known as a prototype!

 

[Simon060]

It was based on the 20th Anniversary Silhouette and later turned into the BFR JP6. The prototype shown has an alder body, mahogany tone block, maple cap, and DiMarzio humbuckers (virtual/vintage PAF?) with the 20th Anniversary adjustment trim rings. The neck is maple with a rosewood fretboard, and the color is caramel burst.

The JP6 has a basswood body and maple neck with rosewood fretboard (usually).
The BFR JP6 has an alder body, mahogany tone block, maple cap, mahogany neck, and rosewood fretboard (usually).

Thanks!

For those of you with insight, how much did the Score prototype differ from the one he used during the making of Systematic Chaos? Except for some visual stuff like neck binding and uncovered pickups. I realize this question is straying away from the Majesty topic on this thread, but I'll give it a shot

 

[Primo]

he will be using it a lot on the upcoming tour.
It would be fun to read these back to thewe people in a year....we get attacked for making an artist a guitar he desires and asked for...I can handle that

Looking forward to see the guitar in action!!! Thanks BP!

 

[knguro]

Has there been some discussion about the Game Changer on this guitar? If by itself any JP guitar is amazing, I can't even imagine what the GC will bring to the table.

 

[knguro]

Ok, I have been lurking on threads and let me get this right, the game changer technology initially is for a faster switching (omg jp) BUT, as per BP description, eventually the GC full application will be available on the Majesty? Am I right? Sorry if I sound stupid.

 

[Big Poppa]

yes and you are not stupid....

 

[Gnumarco]

A related question that then came to my mind, sorry if I bother asking, but: wasn't then JP interested by the GC technology for more than switching on his guitar? Or will he use it also?

 

[knguro]

A related question that then came to my mind, sorry if I bother asking, but: wasn't then JP interested by the GC technology for more than switching on his guitar? Or will he use it also?

Yep, look at BP's answer, it will be available if wanted on the Majesty.

 

[knguro]

yes and you are not stupid....

Thnks BP, im getting one of these (mystic dream finish please), is not negotiable. just one more question (if possible to answer) how the piezo is gonna work on the majesty with only one output? stereo output only?

 

[Gnumarco]

Yep, look at BP's answer, it will be available if wanted on the Majesty.

I have no doubt that BP said that it will be available if wanted. My question is more "why didn't JP want it from the beginning, maybe he did not find it useful for him?".
Sorry for not having made my point clear.

 

[knguro]

I have no doubt that BP said that it will be available if wanted. My question is more "why didn't JP want it from the beginning, maybe he did not find it useful for him?".
Sorry for not having made my point clear.

oh i see, that's fine, if we recap, i think the Majesty was almost like a long term project, the GC if im not mistaking was released in 2011, and this is me just guessing, but i think both projects almost started at the same time having a big time window in the middle to release a couple of more JP models. Again, this is just my humble opinion.