fret bevel on EBMM JP7s - high e-string coming off the frets

[Santuzzo]

Hi,

I have a question to owners/players of EBMM JP 7-string guitars:

I have three JP7s, and on one of them in particular I noticed the high e-string being kinda close to the edge of the fretboard, so when playing pull-offs on the high e, the string slips off the frets some times.
I tried centering the neck by loosening the neck screws and pushing the neck towards the corrective direction, this only brought about minimal improvement.
The fret bevel on the neck of this guitar, especially on the treble side, is very strong, the fret ends are rounded off a bit much, leaving only very little fret-space for the high e-string.

Have you noticed something similar on your JP guitars? if yes, did you find a solution to this?
Is this just a matter of getting used to?

any thoughts?

do you guys see something off here on these pics regarding the fret-edges on the treble side or do you think this is within the tolerance of the specs of this particular guitar model?

 

[sanderhermans]

It does not look that much out centre to me.. just verry slightly (the center string almost runs straight over the position markers) i cant really see the fret rounding on these pictures verry good but they look right to. I would try repositioning 1 more time and see if you can get the neck up a bit more.

There have been quite a few people with this question here lately, the specs of these guitars just seem to be pretty tight. Mayebe you should work on your technique? Or mayebe this particular 7-string aint for you, because the strings are a bit too close to the edge for your liking ...?

 

[Santuzzo]

Thanks man!
I am not sure, since I do own another JP7 where I do not have this issue.

 

[sanderhermans]

This looks like a 2014 pdn neptune. Wich would mean this has stainless steel frets, mayebe they are rounded off more than the nickel alloy frets? Just a guess. Are they actually rounded off more when you compare the 2 guitars?

 

[Santuzzo]

This looks like a 2014 pdn neptune. Wich would mean this has stainless steel frets, mayebe they are rounded off more than the nickel alloy frets? Just a guess. Are they actually rounded off more when you compare the 2 guitars?

My other JP7 also has stainless steel frets. Hard to tell if they are rounded off more, I think the edge of the fretboard is already rounded off on this guitar (you can't see that on the pics) which causes for less space.
To me this looks like the edge of the fretboard had been sanded a bit too much.

 

[sanderhermans]

My other JP7 also has stainless steel frets. Hard to tell if they are rounded off more, I think the edge of the fretboard is already rounded off on this guitar (you can't see that on the pics) which causes for less space.
To me this looks like the edge of the fretboard had been sanded a bit too much.

It is a completely different instrument, but my neptune blue sr4 also is the only one of my sr4's that has the fretboard sanded as you describe wich make the frets shorter. In a bass, this is no big deal, as there is enough space but with a guitar with such tight tollerances i can see why this would be a bigger problem.

 

[Santuzzo]

It is a completely different instrument, but my neptune blue sr4 also is the only one of my sr4's that has the fretboard sanded as you describe wich make the frets shorter. In a bass, this is no big deal, as there is enough space but with a guitar with such tight tollerances i can see why this would be a bigger problem.

No, it's actually not a completely different instrument, it's the same model, only difference being the fretboard wood and the color. The other JP7 I'm referring to is a PDN with Pao Ferro fretboard and mahogany body.

 

[sanderhermans]

No. You miss understood me. My stingray is a completely different thing as your jp guitars but it also has sanded edges on the fretboard. It is also a neptune blue and its the only musicman bass that has a edge of the fretboard. So i understand what you mean and how it shortens the frets. Making it easier to slide off the side...

 

[Santuzzo]

No. You miss understood me. My stingray is a completely different thing as your jp guitars but it also has sanded edges on the fretboard. It is also a neptune blue and its the only musicman bass that has a edge of the fretboard. So i understand what you mean and how it shortens the frets. Making it easier to slide off the side...

oh, of course, yes, now I get it. sorry

 

[Rachmaninoff]

This is one of the reasons I sold my '04 JP6: the fret bevel was just too much. I realized that after playing an Ibanez RG, which intentionally had a wider fretboard at the 24th fret (58mm), and it was quite a difference in ease of playing, specially on legato techniques.

 

[fbecir]

Hello

Try to reposition the neck. The center string is more on the treble side : try to put it more on the bass side.
In fact no need to unscrew the neck : just brute force (and ignorance if you like Rory Gallagher).
It's what I did with my Morse.

Good luck

 

[BrickGlass]

When I had this problem it was the nut. Had to get a new nut that was cut correctly on my JP guitar.

 

[Timeblock]

Hi all,

I've noticed the exact same issue on my Neptune Blue Luke III i purchased last month. There is a very little space between the outer strings and the fingerboard edges.
Tomorrow i must return the guitar to fix another issue; the volume/boost pot doesn't work (it don't "close" the sound when turned to zero). Otherwise it's an amazing guitar!

 

[Santuzzo]

This is one of the reasons I sold my '04 JP6: the fret bevel was just too much. I realized that after playing an Ibanez RG, which intentionally had a wider fretboard at the 24th fret (58mm), and it was quite a difference in ease of playing, specially on legato techniques.

Yes, I agree, especially for pull offs this is an issue for me on the high e.
But with this problem I can't even sell the guitar.

Hello

Try to reposition the neck. The center string is more on the treble side : try to put it more on the bass side.
In fact no need to unscrew the neck : just brute force (and ignorance if you like Rory Gallagher).
It's what I did with my Morse.

Good luck

Thanks. Already tried this (but with loosening the neck screws) two times. This is as far as I could re-position the neck.

When I had this problem it was the nut. Had to get a new nut that was cut correctly on my JP guitar.

Thanks.
On my guitar the nut seems to be fine. I think the fret bevel is a bit extreme causing too little fret-space to be left for the high-e string.

Hi all,

I've noticed the exact same issue on my Neptune Blue Luke III i purchased last month. There is a very little space between the outer strings and the fingerboard edges.
Tomorrow i must return the guitar to fix another issue; the volume/boost pot doesn't work (it don't "close" the sound when turned to zero). Otherwise it's an amazing guitar!

Have you gotten used to this issue after a while?

 

[Timeblock]

Have you gotten used to this issue after a while?

Hmmm... really i can't tell you yet, i purchased my LIII only a month ago; i had 4 gigs and no issues.