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oddguitar

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Roasted Maple neck & fingerboard + 22 stainless frets + gunstock oil & special wax

I've always had a soft spot for Music Man guitars ever since trying out an EVH model in 1994. I've since owned an Axis, a Petrucci and still have an Albert Lee. The one thing that I love the most about them is the feel of the necks. The release of the Cutlass and Stingray guitars has rekindled my interest in the brand. I have a few guitars with stainless steel frets and have come to love them so much, that I probably won't buy another guitar without them. I also have a guitar with a roasted neck, and it seems to be more stable than untreated Maple.

With this in mind, I am interested in getting a Music Man guitar with a roasted Maple neck & fingerboard, 22 stainless steel frets, and the gunstock oil & special wax blend. From what I can tell from the Music Man website, the only model that ticks those boxes is the James Valentine model. However, when you go to the Music Man website and scroll down to where it says "we're all about the details" there is a picture of a roasted maple neck and fingerboard. I guess my question is: which guitar does this belong to? It can't be the James Valentine model because the neck depicted features the traditional regular-sized headstock.

The Petrucci JP15 does offer stainless steel frets and a roasted Maple neck & fingerboard, however it has 24 frets, a very flat 17" radius and a what I assume to be a much thinner neck than the Albert Lee, Axis, Silhouette (please correct me if I'm wrong, since I'm basing this off of the feel of my original Petrucci and haven't tried a JP15).

Lastly, both the Cutlass and Sting Ray models feature a smaller radius and chunkier neck than the Petrucci models, as well as stainless steel frets, but no roasted Maple and feature a ultra-light satin polyurethane finish on the neck instead of the traditional gunstock oil & special wax blend. I'm curious as to why Music Man decided on a different neck finish for these two models?

So in summary, if I want 22 stainless frets + roasted Maple neck & fingerboard, my only choice is the Valentine, correct?

If I can live without the roasted Maple, but want 22 stainless frets and a Maple neck and fingerboard, my only choices are the Cutlass and Sting Ray, correct?

If those of you who have tried or own a JP15 could let me know if the neck on it is on the thin side like the original Petrucci, I would be most appreciative.

If those of you who have tried or own a Cutlass or Sting Ray could comment on the neck feel compared to the traditional gunstock oil & special wax, I would be most appreciative.

I apologize for the long email and offer thanks in advance.

-oddguitar
 

Dead-Eye

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I guess my question is: which guitar does this belong to? It can't be the James Valentine model because the neck depicted features the traditional regular-sized headstock.
Out of what's currently available it could be a JP15 or a Luke 3 BFR (BFR because it has white tuning knobs, the regular L3 has metal ones). Of course, there were limited roasted necks available for pretty much anything at one time or another, so if it's one of those then it's impossible to tell.
 

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Yes the jp15 is thin with a flat radius it's 432mm radius.
I have seen pics of some silo's and Luke's and I think an AL with roasted necks. But there are many more e,perienced and knowledgeable people here to correct me. I only have a jp15 and 13 so my experience is limited.
 
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Have you tried a Luke or AL with a solid rosewood neck? They play and feel awesome. And seem to be more plentiful in the used market.
 

oddguitar

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Out of what's currently available it could be a JP15 or a Luke 3 BFR (BFR because it has white tuning knobs, the regular L3 has metal ones). Of course, there were limited roasted necks available for pretty much anything at one time or another, so if it's one of those then it's impossible to tell.

Possibly the JP15, but the Luke 3 BFR only comes with a Rosewood or Ebony fingerboard, so it couldn't be that.

-oddguitar
 

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What if it's something totally unexpected like a PDN Luke, PDN AL or a PDN Morse. All were a available with an all maple neck on the Neptune Blue run. Would be cool to see the whole guitar.
 

oddguitar

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Have you tried a Luke or AL with a solid rosewood neck? They play and feel awesome. And seem to be more plentiful in the used market.

I appreciate the recommendation, however I've had guitars with solid rosewood necks and while they feel great, I simply prefer the sound of Maple.

I guess if I want 22 stainless frets, I'll either have to wait for the Valentine model, or forego the roasted part and go with a Cutlass or Sting Ray. Too bad they don't offer the Cutlass/Sting Ray with a roasted neck or the Silhouette Special/Albert Lee with stainless frets.

-oddguitar
 

Ek11sx

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Is there an option to order a neck separately? Could be the best way and something I would be interested in potentiall as well
 
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