20th or 25th

[brokenvail]

Ok guys seeing Don's 20th in the forsale thread made me think. If you could still get our hands on a 20th would you take the 20th or get the 25th? For the purpose of being fair let's assume that both are the same $$$ so that price alone if not the deciding factor.

Also does any one know if they actually have the same neck? I heard the 25the has a Silo neck on it.

 

[TonyEVH5150]

I think either one would be a good grab. I would probably give the 25th an edge simply based on the switching options that guitar has available. The 25th has a silo profile, but a 12" radius, so just a tad wider/fatter than the Silo neck.

 

[D.K.]

I'm totally biased, but ...

Go the 20-th!!!

 

[JP7Nomad]

20th, I like the shape and finish better.

 

[GWDavis28]

Tough call, I really love the 20th and if I had the $$, I'd love to snag that from Don, but alas, it isn't meant to be.

I'm hoping to check out the 25th when they land @ Dubaldo, new guitars are out of my reach for a while, but it'll be nice to see what the 25th's are all about.

Glenn |B)

 

[Astrofreq]

20th all the way. Less confusing to work.

 

[A.J.]

As much as I love the 20th, I'll have to recommend the 25th. The 25th sustains for days couresty of the tone block AND the chambers. Also, the parallel settings lend to some really great clean sounds. WIth 10 pickup selections it's almost like getting 2 guitars for the price of one. With options like that how can you afford not to get one?

 

[brokenvail]

The 20th doesn't have the tone block?

 

[meenahga]

The 20ths were the first to utilize the mahogany tone block and they do play and sound incredible! But I haven't heard the 25th yet so...

 

[JMB27]

Had a 20th a for brief while. It was a smokin' hot guitar. Not quite what I dig on a normal basis, but an exceptional tone and sweet package.

That said, I would prolly go with a 25th. It seems to address a few of my quirks and needs when it comes to makin' noise: 22 frets+chambering+axis body+silo neck+wood combination=

Tough choice. But you'll come out a winner with either one. Just my .02

cheers always, eh

Joel

 

[phatduckk]

With options like that how can you afford not to get one?

im sold! when pete gets a few in stock i'll defintely snag one! my bank account hates u guys!

 

[RocketRalf]

I think the 25th. But my ideal would be an hybrid: everything from the 25th except the body shape and the pickups of the silo. I love my silo, but the finish, woods and switching on the 25th are to kill for!

 

[robelinda2]

I would love 20 or 25 AL's.

 

[Big Poppa]

I think that only people who have played both should be offering an opinion. I thisnk that the 20h is the best ever and now I think the 25 is maybe a tad better but they are very different and both valid...

 

[brokenvail]

Bp and those who have played both please expound on the differences? I was very careful to now use the "vs" in my subject line because I really see these guitars as a win win I was just trying to info on what sets them apart and which way would we'd go if we could have either and why.

 

[koogie2k]

This is a tough call. I have not played the 25th as of yet obviously. But, I have played the 20th. The 20th is an exceptional guitar and was received very very well in my opinion. It introduced the tone block and all the goodness that you see. I personally think (just my opinion) the 20th really started the BFR line of guitars. Some of the innovations from the 20th got it going is what I mean.

I am very finicky about the feel of the necks. The neck just was not for me. But, that is what is so cool about the other guitars. Different neck shapes so you will find what fits you.

I am personally getting the 25th regardless. I talked to Pete and he knows what I am after and knows what I like. He said this is the best one for me.

You have a tough decision here. So, I will stop rambling and offer you this:

Buy the 20th.....then later on....buy the 25th. Problem solved.

 

[Danserrano]

I played the 20th just a few times and like koogs Ive totally ordered the 25th in the blind, so I can talk about playability and give a fair answer. What I can say is Ebmm with every model has stepped it up. I can speak about jps. I owned an original, one with the dsonic and I've played bfrs. To me they get better and better. I'm sure it's gonna be the same with the anniversary models. Although the 25th is not the 20th silo what I'm positive of is that it's prob just as good if not better. What it's not is a step backwards.....so like koogie said keep it in the forum buy the 20th then get urself a 25th and the ss u want LOL

 

[D.K.]

All right, then I can also give a bit of detail on the 20-th here, since I obviously have not played the 25-th yet.

I have first started thinking about the 20-th when I saw and heard John Petrucci on the "Score". I 've had three Petrucci's at that point, and was absolutely blown away. Then I have found my non-trem 20-th. Contrary to my worries, I liked the neck shape very much (coming form Pets and a Morse), the guitar is extremely comfortable for technical playing and looks very classy. And it's very limited.

But that is NOT the point. This is by far the first guitar I've ever had, that I would have bought in any condition, even if the whole thing weighed 10 kg and the neck was unplayable - just for THE TONE it has. You have an instrument of such a high tonal quality, clarity (you name the chord - I'll play it with the highest gain setting possible, and You'll still hear every nuance), sustain and character, that I literary just could not find any genre it did not suit, while staying absolutely recognisible as a 20-th. This is not a great strat/tele/LP/whatever clone - it's unique.

After that I've got my trem 20-th, and while it easily "killed" the BFR Petrucci I've had at the moment, I finally understood what many people here have said already - the trem 20-th is incredible, the hardtail 20-th is godlike. (that's why I dared to change the PUs and install a push-pull on the trem, but won't even touch a screw on the hardtail 20-th).

All this doesn't mean the 25th won't stand against the 20-th - just want to help You to understand what a bliss the 20-th is.

One thing, of course, is sure - You'd make no mistakes buying either the one, or the other, especially buying both

 

[PeteDuBaldo]

I have played both, and here's my take:

Up until I get a 25th Anniverary EBMM in my hands, I will maintain my position that the hardtail 20th Anny Silhouette is hands-down the best sounding guitar EB has made. Sustain for days with a tightness that will punch you in the gut. I love it and can't say enough good things about it.

I did play the 25th Anny EBMM while at the NAMM show, and the amazing way in which the body resonated immediately reminded me of the 20th Silo. You can feel each note. The guitar is also lightweight, and extremely comfortable with the rounded forearm contour. While strumming chords or picking individual notes, this guitar simply SINGS. I have found that if an electric guitar sings while unplugged, you get some flat out amazing sounds when it is plugged into an amp. Having a 5-way toggle with an additional series/parallel switch lends itself to extreme versatility in tonal choices.


Wile I didn't rip the guitar through a full size amp due to NAMM Show volume limitations, I don't feel the need to because I know it will meet and beat my expectations once it arrives.

I have a tremolo model on order

 

[Big Poppa]

I have said many times that the 20th silo is the best guitar we have made...how can you go wrong...the sad part is that many of these have changed hands..I havent let artist relations touch my 20th