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foolsfortune

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So some of you may recall (and I'm sure most will not) that I had scored my first Ball but the neck pocket was cracked. Here' sthe post...

http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-guitars/22605-new-petrucci-broken-heart-help-big-poppa.html

Some said to keep it and ignore the crack. Others said to have it fixed and have it back to 100% again,

I like my stuff mint, expescially brand new $2000 + guitars so I opted for option #2.

Now since I'm Canadian, the store/EB came to the conclusion that they'd just make me a new body and ship it to the store to be swapped out by their tech.

I didn't know the guy so this made me leery and I asked "what if he buggers it up?" EB said in that case that they'd just have the guitar sent back to EB and have it done right. I asked why not just do it "right" in the first place?

Long story short, the body shows up, still has a paint flaw and the tech puts it together and did a hack job. Terrible solders, burned insulation, nasty buzz/ground loop. He was a very nice guy but just needs more practice on the crap axes before he works on high end stuff IMHO.

So I show the problems to my local rep Glenn, who turned out to be a great guy as promised by EB and he asked what I wanted done to make me happy. I said to send it back at anybodys cost but mine and have it rebuilt to perfection by the guys that know what they're doing.

So off it went to Cali having been played for one day total.

All the while through the aggravation of it all, Kevin from EB customer service kept me informed and checked in to let me know the status of things right down to emailing me when he saw via the tracking number that it had reached the store and then even went a step further to email me from home to see what I thought of it.

Well, as suspected.....it's perfect! Beautiful finish, no more buzzes and although I haven't removed the cavity plate, I'm pretty sure the solders no longer look like they were done with a hot campfire pokin' stick :p

For my patience Kevin said he'd send some swag but then I guess forgot about it once he knew I was happy. I wound up getting the swag anyway (a couple t- shirts and a hat) and I couldn't be happier with the service.

My store guys were a little miffed that I took this to the forum and talked to the EB guys before the store, but I swear I wasn't trying to pull a fast one or get anyone in any trouble. Before buying, I had done my research here on the boards so when trouble arose, I posted the problem here for advice on how to handle it and it all worked out fine.

The store did an awesome job of taking care of me (thanks Tony!), the rep made things happen (thanks Glenn) and the Ernie Ball guys did a superb job that has won me as a customer for life (Thanks Kevin, John and anyone else who had a hand in this).

So what did I learn from all this?

1) Inspect your guitar VERY carefully before it leave the shop. I couldn't do this as it was bought for me as a gift.

2) If you live outside the USA and don't know or trust your local tech to fix your brand new EB, insist it be sent back to EB. Save a step. It may cost EB more, but your time is worth something.

3) Own more than one EB so when one is out being repaired, you'll still have one or more to play!

Enough babble, give us photos......

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Yes I know.....I can take the stickers off now!

:)
 

kissmyaxe

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Is that little black cavity on the bottom left for the piezo system??? Pretty Noob question but I don't ever remember seing one of those before.... sweet color btw.
 

Metlupass2

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Thats really awesome that Ernie Ball took care of everything like that for you. I'm glad everything worked out for you.
 

Spudmurphy

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Is that little black cavity on the bottom left for the piezo system??? Pretty Noob question but I don't ever remember seing one of those before.... sweet color btw.
KMA - always ask if you have any queries.
That is a nice looking guitar isn't it?
From the bottom left working up you have the Piezo pre amp system which has two jacks see the picture below of the one on my AL
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the next one up is the battery compartment which hinges down to take the PP3 battery.
 

Big Poppa

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Actually please ignore number two THis is like an American asking porsche to fix a paint chip in Germany.

Im very glad that you are happy and we did go as far as we possibly could to make you happy and many people spent many hours so Rock on.
 

foolsfortune

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It's not a Pearl Redburst anymore though is it?

Nope!! I have no idea where I got that name from...or more like how I figured this one was a pearl redburst. I don't care either way....it IS a beauty!

The little box right under the spring cavity is the batter box for the piezo. The angled one below that is the 3 potentiometers for the piezo settings.

"Actually please ignore number two This is like an American asking porsche to fix a paint chip in Germany."

Hmmmm....#2 said "If you live outside the USA and don't know or trust your local tech to fix your brand new EB, insist it be sent back to EB. Save a step. It may cost EB more, but your time is worth something."

So I would say NO, don't ignore it. looking at it from my point of view had the store simply sent it back the first time we swould have saved one body, countless hours of labour and about 4 weeks of my time waiting.

I'm pretty sure the American Porsche dealership would employ body techs who were qualified to work on their high end cars up to Porsche standards.

I own the Porsche of guitars and I took it to a shop whos tech was barely qualified to work on Ladas or Ford Festivas or....Chevy Chevettes!

I don't want to get into a pi**ing match with the "Boss man" so lets just leave it as "inspect your EB extremely carefully and if you find a flaw, let the shop know and hang it back on the wall".


"I'm very glad that you are happy and we did go as far as we possibly could to make you happy and many people spent many hours..."

Yes, we did spend many hours didn't we? :eek: I'm very greatful. Know this, I believe other companies wouldn't have gone half as far and I'd have just returned it and got my money back. You've got a great staff and it must be relieving to have so many great people share the vison that your father shared and that you now live. You're a very lucky guy!

"...so Rock on." Oh I plan to man, I plan to. We have a lot of catching up to do!
 

Big Poppa

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MY dad had nothing to do with Music man But I will take the lucky as a compliment.

For the record to the readers not familiar the neck socket was not broken, it had a cosmetic stress crack. THe stress cracks existed in the store and were not noticed until later.

Lets let this die.
 
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foolsfortune

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Sorry Sterling, I didn't mean to imply that your Dad had anything to do with MusicMan....I just meant that he must have had a vision since the company grew from nothing much to what it is today and you can't do that without good people...and EB has got good people. For that you (and we) are lucky.

Sheesh...hard to just get a compliment across!
 

Big Poppa

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FOols it is the curse of the internet. Thanks. I am lucky but I think that I have not taken it for granted or waste it. I have worked really hard to make this thing work
 

foolsfortune

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FOols it is the curse of the internet. Thanks. I am lucky but I think that I have not taken it for granted or waste it. I have worked really hard to make this thing work

Yep, it's easy to get things misconstrued....but patience always works things out.

I read some other posts last night and recall one about someone (no need to name drop) saying that his business downfall was participating in his companies forum.

I found that a bit sad. When I found the problem with my guitar, I wasn't sure who to call or email. the store was closed so I figured the forumers could point me in the right direction and they did...customer service.

The fact the the CEO of the company replied and put my mind at ease quite honestly blew me away. I'm not kissing ass because I would never, ever, ever degrade myself that way and I will move on about the customer service at EB but I think we've hit a goldmine here.

Your years of hard work and the fact that you are humble enough to not waste or take for granted your success make me proud to own one of your instruments.

Moving on, I now find myself wanting an Ernie Ball bass....but I'm a guitarist. Go figure!

Thank you and your team very sincerely!

Mike
 
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