mesavox
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but of course! LOL
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Dante
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the EBMM BFR Hideous, AKA, the Knucklef&cker! hahahhaahhaha 
i think i've posted some 15 times on this thread...
i think i've posted some 15 times on this thread...
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Ok.. this thread is hilarious. LOL
Is this maybe what you're thinking Deano? LOL
That's actually close to what I was picturing. Only it'd have to have a hardtail. I think that'd be a great body to start with, then I'd start adjusting it from there. First I'd make that top (backwards) arch just a lil' bit less severe and I'd shorten how far it goes up in the back a tad. Then I'd make the bottom arch less severe and make the lower horn a lil' shorter. Maybe not make the points so "pointy", more rounded out. 22 fret and dimensions similar to an Axis neck, maybe a lil' thicker....mahogany body/neck, rosewood fingerboard...(preferably set-neck). Offer 3 color options...black, natural, and whatever.
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nah, i'd keep it with a petrucci neck. that guitar isn't really meant for sitting down. oh yeah, one more stupid post, and i've gotten to 500... waddya mean i'm not involved
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nah, i'd keep it with a petrucci neck. that guitar isn't really meant for sitting down. oh yeah, one more stupid post, and i've gotten to 500... waddya mean i'm not involved
Not for me. I'd have to have a neck with more meat and made of mahogany! Better for a lower/deeper tone!
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well, 500. woot =|
to me it's in the hands. after taking lessons again for a week or 6, i manage the tone with the right hand interely. if i'm playing lead, i round the tone by picking alot closer to the neck. if need some tightness i move back to the mid zone.
but i DO own a les paul and understand where your coming from.
to me it's in the hands. after taking lessons again for a week or 6, i manage the tone with the right hand interely. if i'm playing lead, i round the tone by picking alot closer to the neck. if need some tightness i move back to the mid zone.
but i DO own a les paul and understand where your coming from.
mesavox
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nah... Metal = tight crunchy riffs... 22 frets is more flabby by default. I'd keep 24 frets... set or bolt... seems irrelevant to me (which really, so does 22 or 24 by my own argument) because plenty of very very Metal players play bolt guitars.
If the idea is something that would be relatively easy to add to current production, tooling up for set necks wouldn't be the way to go... but then, neither would such a radical idea on body shape. lol Although, it would be easier to program a setting in a CNC machine than it would to add a whole new production method for one guitar that, frankly would have to be way cooler than what I posted to ever sell well enough to justify the brainstorming session, let alone the increase in man hours.
If the idea is something that would be relatively easy to add to current production, tooling up for set necks wouldn't be the way to go... but then, neither would such a radical idea on body shape. lol Although, it would be easier to program a setting in a CNC machine than it would to add a whole new production method for one guitar that, frankly would have to be way cooler than what I posted to ever sell well enough to justify the brainstorming session, let alone the increase in man hours.
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Wow, this has spun WAY into OTT - Who gives a flying F##k if there are different opinions on such a trivial and (on a life scale) worthless topic ??
but good to see some fun stuff happening !
All I can say is I've learnt one thing from this thread :
In the process of searching for funny pics and stuff to post - I discovered THIS crazy biatch - "The Great KAT" :
and some vid clips
http://www.greatkat.com/PaganinisCaprice24.wmv
http://www.greatkat.com/TheFlightOfTheBumbleBeeMusicVideo.wmv
Bloody hell, never seen anything like it ! :
Not Metal........... Friggin MENTAL !!!
but good to see some fun stuff happening !
All I can say is I've learnt one thing from this thread :
In the process of searching for funny pics and stuff to post - I discovered THIS crazy biatch - "The Great KAT"
:
and some vid clips
http://www.greatkat.com/PaganinisCaprice24.wmv
http://www.greatkat.com/TheFlightOfTheBumbleBeeMusicVideo.wmv
Bloody hell, never seen anything like it ! :
Not Metal........... Friggin MENTAL !!!
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robelinda2
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Ah yes The Great Kat, I had a student really into her stuff about 12 years ago, freaky chick! Great player though, tons of technique.
Dizzy
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Serious ?? All I could see/hear was a pile of very messy alternate picking (in a live vid) ?
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dwells
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im actually really surprised by where this thread went too and back ,but its all good
i love ebmm u guys make the greatest guitars Ever and i will always play your NON metal guitars hahaha lol
so can we have a Luke with double humbuckers please???
id be happy with that hehehe
i love ebmm u guys make the greatest guitars Ever and i will always play your NON metal guitars hahaha lol
so can we have a Luke with double humbuckers please???
id be happy with that hehehe
mesavox
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im actually really surprised by where this thread went too and back ,but its all good
i love ebmm u guys make the greatest guitars Ever and i will always play your NON metal guitars hahaha lol
so can we have a Luke with double humbuckers please???
id be happy with that hehehe
What... You didn't like my Kellucci? er... Petelly... er whatever it isn't. LOL
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I don't see how that is, being that a 22-fretter would have the same 25.5" scale length as a 24-fretter?
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New EBMM Model
For BP and the EB/MM R&D dept:
Regardless of what most of the people in this thread have said to try and "road-block" this idea, with their "Petrucci is all you need", "how can a guitar be metal?", to "what is a metal guitar?" etc....this idea was never for "them", as their sensibilities lie elsewhere with EBMM models that already exist. (even though nearly half of them would buy this product if it was released; what can I say, that is the general public for you!) Simply put, passionate discussion or not....this idea wasn't geared for them. Two things: 1. This model would be for a market that EBMM has yet to tap into. 2. This model would be different than anything within the EBMM stable, in other words, it would have a place.
What makes up a metal guitar: it's only an 'idea'....of art and marketing. Just like anything else an artist designs, it's meant to convey the message that that particular artist is trying to express...whether it be accurate to others or not. Then, with the right marketing, the 'idea' will be portrayed as the artist rendered it. I am only one person and this is only my idea....but I can see it working in the general market, regardless of what most in the forum have to say. I think this idea would still be recieved well over the mass market of "metal players". Here is what I envision:
Being based "loosely" off the pic above, I would have an all mahogany body and neck guitar....which is something that I see you don't have standard in any of your other models, which would make this guitar unique from the start. The body would have more of an aggressive look (but sleek) compared to any of your present models. I would have a 22-fret neck (25.5" scale), similar to the Axis, but a bit thicker girth and with a 12" radius rosewood fingerboard with jumbo frets. As far as the nut width, I suppose you could go the Petrucci route or the Axis route...you guys make the call. Understandably, you would probably want to keep it a bolt-on neck design and that'd be fine. It would have direct-mount HH pickups. And, the only two finishes that I'd have standard, would be black and some sort of natural finish that would show off the wood grain...any other colors, you guys could figure out. I'm just thinking that on this, you could keep the finishes limited. You guys could figure out the layout of the controls...I would suggest a 3-way switch like the Petrucci. The name you give it would represent 'heaviness' and 'power'. And naturally, you would market the model in the same way.
Obviously, I'm nobody and it's only my own vision...so I don't expect you to take me totally serious. But, I present it to you, because I think it'd be great to have a NEW EBMM model released that might appeal to other indivduals who have not explored your instruments yet. If anything, I'd just like to think that you guys would consider adding a new model to your list of guitars.
Again, for the members of this forum who do not perceive this idea well....cool! It was never meant for you! Even though, on the day this model is released, a lot of you would be ready to scoop it up with credit cards in hand. This entire statement was meant for BP and ErnieBall/Musicman....whether they agree with me or not, which is also cool. I've said my peace, so I'm done with this thread.
For BP and the EB/MM R&D dept:
Regardless of what most of the people in this thread have said to try and "road-block" this idea, with their "Petrucci is all you need", "how can a guitar be metal?", to "what is a metal guitar?" etc....this idea was never for "them", as their sensibilities lie elsewhere with EBMM models that already exist. (even though nearly half of them would buy this product if it was released; what can I say, that is the general public for you!) Simply put, passionate discussion or not....this idea wasn't geared for them. Two things: 1. This model would be for a market that EBMM has yet to tap into. 2. This model would be different than anything within the EBMM stable, in other words, it would have a place.
What makes up a metal guitar: it's only an 'idea'....of art and marketing. Just like anything else an artist designs, it's meant to convey the message that that particular artist is trying to express...whether it be accurate to others or not. Then, with the right marketing, the 'idea' will be portrayed as the artist rendered it. I am only one person and this is only my idea....but I can see it working in the general market, regardless of what most in the forum have to say. I think this idea would still be recieved well over the mass market of "metal players". Here is what I envision:
Being based "loosely" off the pic above, I would have an all mahogany body and neck guitar....which is something that I see you don't have standard in any of your other models, which would make this guitar unique from the start. The body would have more of an aggressive look (but sleek) compared to any of your present models. I would have a 22-fret neck (25.5" scale), similar to the Axis, but a bit thicker girth and with a 12" radius rosewood fingerboard with jumbo frets. As far as the nut width, I suppose you could go the Petrucci route or the Axis route...you guys make the call. Understandably, you would probably want to keep it a bolt-on neck design and that'd be fine. It would have direct-mount HH pickups. And, the only two finishes that I'd have standard, would be black and some sort of natural finish that would show off the wood grain...any other colors, you guys could figure out. I'm just thinking that on this, you could keep the finishes limited. You guys could figure out the layout of the controls...I would suggest a 3-way switch like the Petrucci. The name you give it would represent 'heaviness' and 'power'. And naturally, you would market the model in the same way.
Obviously, I'm nobody and it's only my own vision...so I don't expect you to take me totally serious. But, I present it to you, because I think it'd be great to have a NEW EBMM model released that might appeal to other indivduals who have not explored your instruments yet. If anything, I'd just like to think that you guys would consider adding a new model to your list of guitars.
Again, for the members of this forum who do not perceive this idea well....cool! It was never meant for you! Even though, on the day this model is released, a lot of you would be ready to scoop it up with credit cards in hand. This entire statement was meant for BP and ErnieBall/Musicman....whether they agree with me or not, which is also cool. I've said my peace, so I'm done with this thread.
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jamminjim
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cool guitar - it could be named the EBMM
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dwells
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Crimson sunrise this is so fricken cool hahah i love it u coud even have a rounder back of the body as well and reverse the head stock..
id buy one
this is so close to what my original thought was so mesavoc and crimson sunrise u guys rock
and it s OK to Dream!!!!! hehehe
awesome this has made me smile
id buy one
this is so close to what my original thought was so mesavoc and crimson sunrise u guys rock
and it s OK to Dream!!!!! hehehe
awesome this has made me smile
dwells
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the fact that this thread has had nearly 4000 views overnight could be something to take into consideration? maybe there is room for a metal model in the ebmm family ?
threeminutesboy
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the fact that this thread has had nearly 4000 views overnight could be something to take into consideration? maybe there is room for a metal model in the ebmm family ?
I remain silent cause I'm not a metal guy but very surprised indeed by the reaction and the passionMusic is always passion anyway
kneeoh
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I don't mean to offend anybody with this question but I'd like to know...
If some other company already makes a guitar close to the ones in the photoshopped pics, why not just buy that particular guitar? Is it because it's not an EBMM and you don't want to play anything else? While that to me, is admirable, I'm just not sure EBMM want, or need, to cover ground that is already been done well... and I think Jackson makes fine guitars.
BP, himself, has said variety is good and there are many guitar companies that do great work doing things the EBMM doesn't do... acoustic guitars for example or set neck guitars as another. People have been asking when EBMM will make these since Moses was floating down the river in a basket, but invariably BP and company have maintained focus on doing what they do, and doing it very well. While they do experiment with lots of different things (the neck-thru JP and neck-thru 2H Al thing come to mind), the bolt-on solid body electric is what they do best. Their designs are instantly recognizable as something different than the rest, not mere knock-offs of other companies' ideas. (see http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-guitars/41297-john-petrucci-knock-offs.html )
I only play EBMM because they offer what I want in a guitar. If there was something that I should want that they don't make, say a hollow body or an EMG equipped metal machine, it wouldn't be a big deal for me to buy from a different maker (like Gibby or Jackson), if that's what they do well.
If some other company already makes a guitar close to the ones in the photoshopped pics, why not just buy that particular guitar? Is it because it's not an EBMM and you don't want to play anything else? While that to me, is admirable, I'm just not sure EBMM want, or need, to cover ground that is already been done well... and I think Jackson makes fine guitars.
BP, himself, has said variety is good and there are many guitar companies that do great work doing things the EBMM doesn't do... acoustic guitars for example or set neck guitars as another. People have been asking when EBMM will make these since Moses was floating down the river in a basket, but invariably BP and company have maintained focus on doing what they do, and doing it very well. While they do experiment with lots of different things (the neck-thru JP and neck-thru 2H Al thing come to mind), the bolt-on solid body electric is what they do best. Their designs are instantly recognizable as something different than the rest, not mere knock-offs of other companies' ideas. (see http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-guitars/41297-john-petrucci-knock-offs.html )
I only play EBMM because they offer what I want in a guitar. If there was something that I should want that they don't make, say a hollow body or an EMG equipped metal machine, it wouldn't be a big deal for me to buy from a different maker (like Gibby or Jackson), if that's what they do well.
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