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robelinda2
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dimarzios i thought. custom pickups for Ernie Ball.
threeminutesboy
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don't know the exact milivolt but my answer is : definitly HOT and not muddy 
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robelinda2
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dont know about millivolts! they sure sound awesome though.
yep its night here, 10:40pm. Snow eh? Would you believe I've never seen snow ever!!!!
yep its night here, 10:40pm. Snow eh? Would you believe I've never seen snow ever!!!!
threeminutesboy
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beej
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mV isn't really a great way to rate a pickup ... there's no standard for what kind of signal you use to generate the voltage, it doesn't take into account frequency response, etc.
What is it you're looking for? How hot they are relative to something else, etc?
What is it you're looking for? How hot they are relative to something else, etc?
TonyEVH5150
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I don't know the exact Ohm/DC resistance numbers for the Axis pickups. But just looking at Dimarzio's specs for the Tone Zone and Air Norton (their closest p'ups to the Axis), the Ohm reading is 17.31 and 12.58 respectively.
That's pretty hot, considering your standard PAF humbucker is around 8.8 or lower.
That's pretty hot, considering your standard PAF humbucker is around 8.8 or lower.
Rob man I feel for you, it's a pain in the butt when you have to shovel it, but my kids live for it. Nothing like skiing some fresh powder up north.
You gotta check it out sometime, it's the coolest thing.
Glenn |B)
Tim O'Sullivan
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And it in London .5mm of snow means that the whole country grinds to a halt!
hbucker
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I've been told, and I believe it, that measuring a pickup's output by looking at its resistance is like measuring someone's I.Q. by looking at their shoe size... Not real accurate.
Based on my experience, if a Tone Zone is a 10 on the output scale, the EVH/Axis DiMarzios are about an 8 on the same scale. They aren't as hot and are much clearer sounding than the Tone Zone - Air Norton combo. Air Norton is closer to the EVH/Axis neck p.u. than the Tone Zone is to the EVH/Axis bridge. I've been told by DiMarzio that the TZ-AN combo is their closest stock p.u's to the EVH/Axis p.u's. But to me they aren't really close enough to call the same.
I guess my question about the EBMM DiMarzios is how to you verify if they are the real deal if someone is selling them on eBay?
Based on my experience, if a Tone Zone is a 10 on the output scale, the EVH/Axis DiMarzios are about an 8 on the same scale. They aren't as hot and are much clearer sounding than the Tone Zone - Air Norton combo. Air Norton is closer to the EVH/Axis neck p.u. than the Tone Zone is to the EVH/Axis bridge. I've been told by DiMarzio that the TZ-AN combo is their closest stock p.u's to the EVH/Axis p.u's. But to me they aren't really close enough to call the same.
I guess my question about the EBMM DiMarzios is how to you verify if they are the real deal if someone is selling them on eBay?
Tim O'Sullivan
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If you see them on ebay, the bridge should say B1 on it, and the neck will say N2
TonyEVH5150
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I see your point on the DC resistance, but it's also the one measurable variable that is specific to pickups. There's no real consistent way to measure what level or type of output a pickup puts out.
Astrofreq
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Haven't we gone through this before?
beej
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Inductance is also a very useful measure, but few people use it. It'll give an indication of the tonal bandwidth of the pickup.
roburado
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Lucky you!
I think that a very good way would be to construct something which can generate a magnetic impulse, and capture the impulse response from the pickup. It's totally feasible, and I think such a device would be pretty easy to build. Capture the IR, and it's easy to get an overall dB output, frequency response, and bandwidth from any kind of spectral analysis tool (I think Adobe Audition's tools would be just fine but fancier programs like SpectraLAB are pretty handy, too). The only thing lacking from that info is any kind of dynamic response, but I think triggering a series of closely spaced pulses and then tracing the peak output would give a pretty good indication of dynamic response. I'm not even sure how dynamic a typical pickup is, tbh - I think a lot of that actually comes from the wood...?
*edit* I just checked, and an EMP generator is really easy to build (although most plans are for high power applications, totally unsuitable), although when I think about it it would probably be sufficient just to tap the polepieces with a screwdriver or something.
*edit* I just checked, and an EMP generator is really easy to build (although most plans are for high power applications, totally unsuitable), although when I think about it it would probably be sufficient just to tap the polepieces with a screwdriver or something.
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beej
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Yeah, it would be very cool if there was such a standard for comparison. As you say, take a known pulse of a given width and distance from the p'up, sweep the frequencies and record the output. (But trying to get all the manufacturers to do the same thing would probably be like herding cats.) I like it.
Even more fun if you can take out have the power in the neighbourhood with an EMP generator!
Even more fun if you can take out have the power in the neighbourhood with an EMP generator!
