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Jimmyb

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Ok, I can relate to some of what you're going through.

The first thing I would try and do if I were you, is get back onto the course. You have tried it for 2 months and it will be hard, especially if you haven't had that type of education before. But, the guys at the university will more than likely have met people like you before. Talk to your tutors, explain the problems you're having and ask them for suggestions. What works for some with learning, will not always work for others. Find the style of learning that suits you and try and transpose it to your way. It doesn't help if you're surrounded by people fresh out of secondary education, as they'll be used to a particular style of learning that you may have forgotten.

If your tutors see that you are putting the time and effort in, they will be more inclined to help you with your problems. Also, as a mature student, you'll be offering good skills to others on your course in non-taught areas (life skills, like getting on with others).

As for the problems with your girlfriend, she may not be the right one for you. She said she wanted a break, but it doesn't ultimately mean it's over, she may just need some time to re-assess things. Either way, you need to make it clear to her that this isn't the way it works in the real world, either she acts like an adult and talks through the problems with you, or you have to look after yourself and move forwards. Remember, it's not you that's caused this.

As far as moving to Ireland, only you can decide if it's really the right move for you or not. The only thing I know, is that if it's anything like over here (England) jobs aren't exactly easy to come by at the moment, but don't let that put you off, do some research and see what turns up. You may even be able to get on a University course there, so it could be the best of both worlds for you.

Don't give up on things, you've got more people to talk to than you realise.
 

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sorry i'm taking this forum to blow out steam but i've got no one left to talk to, which is sad really, really sad.

a few months ago i started school after 2 years of preperations to study computer sciences, foolish me never took an example course and turns out stuff is too hefty and hard for me, i tried for 2 months, ended up failing.

first time in my life i ever quit something. really bugged me for a while

at least i had a fiance who loved me and supported me all the way through, though while studying i had to quit my job and went into debt (not a big one, 200$ atm). haven't been able to find work (been 3 weeks) but i got 2 interviews on sunday and hopefully something turns up.

ironically enough, my finace just called saying she doesn't feel the same way she felt before and she wants a break, that was 30 mins ago.

I dunno how this will end up, but it seems life decided to take a stab at me.

I'm thinking in about 2 months to leave my country and head to europe, thinking about ireland, i am really drawn to that country, no idea why.


i'm sure the older guys here have been through this phase of confusion and uncertainty, any advice for a young fella just trying to live his life in peace ?



Sounds like you are dealing with multiple issues here. You feel that after 2 months that you have failed so what is stopping you from trying again? If computer science is what you wish you do, then try try again the difference is now you have a better view of what you have to contend with.

As far as your fiance goes well better now then once she became your wife. Would you feel better if she stayed with you not feeling the same way you feel for her?

Remember its how we deal with failures that make us better people. Failure teaches us, makes us look at matters from a different perspective, give us the opportunity to TRY again.
 

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Doesnt worry me, I'm a vegetarian.


Now THAT worries me. :D:D:D

SOrry to hear about the downers. I'm not a huge fan of life right now either. I'm thinking heavily of moving to a new state just to hopefully get a fresh start. I'm not saying that you should do that, I'm just agreeing with BP that change has to happen before situations change.

Pimpin' ain't easy, yo.
 

Ang3lus

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thanks everyone

I've given up computer sciences because i'm not that good at math, pretty average, but not good enough to prove a*0=0, i HATE calculus :(

i think i will go with what my heart tells me and study music and hopefully let everything sort itself out, but i gotta do that at least for me, i've had the passion and desire to study music ever since i saw JP at that G3 concert (can you believe i didn't know him before ?)

when i saw him live here in Israel i was WOWOWOOW yelling like a small child :(

hopefully i will play with him one day ?
 

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thanks everyone

I've given up computer sciences because i'm not that good at math, pretty average, but not good enough to prove a*0=0, i HATE calculus :(

i think i will go with what my heart tells me and study music and hopefully let everything sort itself out, but i gotta do that at least for me, i've had the passion and desire to study music ever since i saw JP at that G3 concert (can you believe i didn't know him before ?)

when i saw him live here in Israel i was WOWOWOOW yelling like a small child :(

hopefully i will play with him one day ?

Study what you like, and are good at. That's important. I just did my senior guitar recital, and passed piano proficiencies, which basically means I am now a music degree holder with honors... NOW, that good at part...

This is tricky. Some people learn they don't like to practice. Even though they are good at music, studying it is not for them.

By the same token... I see some who aren't so good at it, actually turn into good musicians.

Those who aren't so good at it and don't work.... well I don't know that that's any worse than those who are good at it and don't work.

My point is... you have to love what you are doing, be willing to work, and be talented.. pretty much in that order. You love computers enough to have started school to do that.. but you found out you lacked a key talent. Fine... it happens to be enough of a lack that you can't do what you loved. One missing out of three... in some cases, that wouldn't be enough, in some cases it would be... just as some people squeak by because they are so talented despite being lazy.

If this sounds like a confusing mess, it's supposed. It is the whole point. It is the reason why someone coined that if you don't succeed try try again phrase. If you think you are going to succeed at everything you attempt the first time... well, you're headed for many many more of these crises.

I'm 32, single, and just finished my undergrad degree. I was 27 before I even started school... that's a lot of years of finding out this job, or that job isn't going to work out...I'm also single... that's a lot of years leading to sometimes wondering if I'll ever even have a wife and kids.

How do I feel about all of that? Like life is just beginning. We have a booking agent interested in our band, are planning out the next few months to book some studio time and get some radio quality demos recorded (self released singles if you will), and are starting the planning process for a tour should we sign with that booking agent (which is a pretty likely scenario.)

I live in small town rural Oklahoma... The nearest small city (Amarillo Texas) is 2 hours from me. The nearest City, Oklahoma City, is 4 and a half. Neither of those places are exactly booming music scenes, although there has been some growth in the scene in OKC in recent years. But, more importantly... It took enrolling in a very small college to meet people who can actually play their instruments to be able to play real shows to actually get to open for REO Speedwagon, and ever have a booking agent think we're worth paying attention to.

That is a lot of build up for something that is really not even off the ground yet. So, look at how much persistence and patience it takes. Sometimes things move quickly... sometimes you wake up and realize you've been trying to learn how to do this for that last 20 years and all the sudden there is a glimmer of hope. We may fall on our faces.... but I bet those of us that really want to do this will take note of who we meet in these smaller times. And, we'll keep climbing up those little ledges we meet along the way.

It's funny... I'm the lead guitar player in the band, and our rhythm guitarist is the one with an endorsement, and in talks about another one.. lol I know what I want so it doesn't help me much, but it shows you don't have to be the guy who is making all that obnoxious high pitched noise on the guitar to jump on a boat when you notice it go by and work hard enough to benefit from it. He's a couple years older than I am, so... once again, patience is the key word.

Sterling certainly summed up all that mess I just said very well in his post... I just thought a bit of a story would help you focus. I've lost more jobs than I care to count... High School itself was a complete failure for me... I busted. I graduated with either a high D or low C average.... I'm graduating college with an A average and Magna Cum Laude honors. It's NEVER over until you let it be.
 

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Shalom there! :)
Life is awesome, please, don't forget that! And just you know how to live your own life, nobody else! So, if you think you have to move to another place, city, or country, just go for it! It's your life man! Just live it, and keep it rocking! It's not about countries, it's just about you!

Vegetarians? I'm a VEGAN! :)

Cheers,
Hugo
 

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When I graduated at the age of 25, I got a hard time finding a job. When I finally got one, the girl I love most (well, cant even forget her now..) left me. Probly bcos I dont measure up - she got a better job and was lookin forward to a more stable guy.

So moved on I said. Like what poppa have mentioned, she wont be yours if its not fated to. They will run away somehow.

10 years later - thats now, I got a job that pays me double when I started out, got someone who loves me, and living a life which i can enjoy my precious EBMM guitars.

Hang on dude. Though we come from different part of the world, I feel you and I think that time will turn out to be better for you. You got to be patient, and always be POSITIVE. :)
 

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Life doesnt suck thats a cliche...situations suck.....George Harrison said it best 'All Things must Pass" both good and bad it is a series of cycles...you have to position yourself to capitalize on the good times and minimize the exposure in bad....
That's well said. Everybody gets dealt a bad hand from time to time, but every day above ground is a blessing and you have to just realize how lucky you are and make the most of it.

Not a day goes by that I don't know how lucky I am. Friends and relatives of mine who've had it hard never say a bad word about how tough things were. My wife's Grandmother walked out of Auschwitz alive after losing her entire family and I have never heard her complain about a single thing. She is inspirational.

You've been given an opportunity to do things differently and cut away the dead wood. Success only ever comes from being outside your comfort zone ... I say embrace the challenge and find what you really want to do.
 
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