Bending Strings with 24 frets?

[fogman]

I read something about this on another forum and it made me question it!
Is there really a difference when bending strings on a 24 fret guitar compared to 22 frets? Do you have bend higher? Is this hogwash, and this other person is out to lunch?

 

[kneeoh]

I haven't heard that. From my experience, I haven't noticed I had to bend any higher on a 24 fretter. Did the person give an explanation?

 

[Spudmurphy]

I haven't found any difference when I have played on a "24".

9 to go !!!

 

[fogman]

I haven't heard that. From my experience, I haven't noticed I had to bend any higher on a 24 fretter. Did the person give an explanation?

No explanation!? He just said it was easier for him on 22 frets?

9 to go!

I think the 2000 concept is/was shot to hell!

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[Jimi D]

That's ridiculous... Ease of bending is based on string tension, fret size and finish, and the guitar's action, which are inter-dependant, and in turn dependant on many other things... Scale length (the length of the string between the nut and the bridge) is a huge contributer to string tension (which is why it "usually" feels easier to bend strings on a Les Paul's 24.75" scale neck than on a Strat's 25.5" scale neck, for instance). Additionally, as a rule, action that is too high or too low can make the strings tougher to bend. And, of course, having fat, tall frets that are highly polished makes for easier bending, as well...

You can have a 24 fret or 22 fret neck in any given scale length; the number of frets has nothing to do with the tension on the strings, the fret finish, or the set-up. Therefore the number of frets has ZERO influence on the ease of bending of a string... That being said, there have not been a large number of 24.75" scale, 24-fret guitars manufactured, to my knowledge (the Jackson Dinky had a short-scale version at one point, and the Peavey Vandenberg had that scale, but those are the only two I can think of off-hand).

my 2¢

(Proviso: I'm not a lutherier, and my layman's definitions of scale length & etc. may not be navel-staring accurate, but they work well enough for me that I can set up and work on my own guitars, and define my preferences, so there you are...)

 

[Tim O'Sullivan]

I agree with Jimi, the number of frets will bear no relation to the string tension.

 

[fogman]

That's what I would think. I just asked the question in case there was something I was missing here!
Thanks guys!

 

[Colin]

Foggy, theoretically you could have frets all the way to the bridge. This would not be practical because the frets would be to small and you'd have no pickups. The extra 2 frets are a continuation anyway based on the same scale length. You could use the pole pieces on your pickups to fret if you were careful.

Colin

 

[Raz]

Man there goes my excuse for being a lousy player...oh well time to come up with something new!

 

[beej]

People say the lamest things. Jimi's right on the money.

 

[jaxadam]

That being said, there have not been a large number of 24.75" scale, 24-fret guitars manufactured, to my knowledge (the Jackson Dinky had a short-scale version at one point, and the Peavey Vandenberg had that scale, but those are the only two I can think of off-hand).

How about a Caparison Horus that is 24.75" scale with 27 frets?

 

[Colin]

I read something about this on another forum

What are you doing on another forum Foggy? I hope you haven't made any unrealistic expectations on yourself there either

Colin

You know this is all in fun

 

[fogman]

What are you doing on another forum Foggy? I hope you haven't made any unrealistic expectations on yourself there either

Colin

You know this is all in fun

I go to other forums every once and a while like I'm sure some of you do. I don't really participate though. Just read for general knowledge.
Any promises anywhere else will be regarding a post count of maybe 10000

 

[Tim O'Sullivan]

That being said, there have not been a large number of 24.75" scale, 24-fret guitars manufactured, to my knowledge (the Jackson Dinky had a short-scale version at one point, and the Peavey Vandenberg had that scale, but those are the only two I can think of off-hand).

How about a Caparison Horus that is 24.75" scale with 27 frets?

The Gibson Les Paul Double cut has 24 frets...

 

[Jimi D]

That being said, there have not been a large number of 24.75" scale, 24-fret guitars manufactured, to my knowledge (the Jackson Dinky had a short-scale version at one point, and the Peavey Vandenberg had that scale, but those are the only two I can think of off-hand).

How about a Caparison Horus that is 24.75" scale with 27 frets?

Oh ya... how'd that one ever slip my mind?