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Sweat

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Cool pics of the plane, bet that was fun!!!

Wow looking forward to checking the GC out, sounds better and better every day:cool:
 

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anyone remember the days when we only 3 way switching and we'd balance the switch inbetween 1&2 to get the hidden sounds? The Game Changer is significant for sure
 

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Guys....There are three banks....two are controlled by a five way....the tone control is push pull to switch betweek banks the third bank is programmable and is a simple switch that has the possiblity of 16 settings. everything from that switch can be assigned to any position on the five way in less than 5 seconds. When you load your settings innto the gamechanger web communtity you just click and in 5 seconds you bass is re wired. You can exchange patches with the world including Steve, Luke, JP, Blues, Albert etc

BP, thanks for the heads up ... time to start saving for 2011. It's going to be an expensive year. :)
 

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One of the Game Changer Protoypes was a 25th. So I'm gathering that the GC will eliminate Pedals and that Amps will be set on clean and the tone controlled completely by the Game Changer? This is an important question because if I want a tone like Morse, Pet, Lee or Luke they would only have to be using a GC with No pedals with cleam Amp settings. What Amps have been run with the Game Changer ? Do some Amps work better than others with the Game Changer? Or does the Guitar with the GC installed have some USB port to run via a computer with software based Amp models?

If I'm running through an Amp, will the GC replace my pedal board? or is the GC just a new option for new guitar players so they dont have to spend thousands of dollars on pedals? Is the GC geared more to Studio sessions and will it work for live shows? I know we all have lots of questions, But when you really think about the GC, I`m wondering why Steve Morse was just given a prototype a couple of months before the GC`s release at Winter Namm.

Does Music Man use Beta testers to try out new gear before it`s released? The Prototype guitars that have had the GC electronics installed, Have the guitars been Dropped a couple of times and been handled in environments simular to gigging? Do they still work afterwards? This is in no way a negitive post. Only questions that probably wont get answered until the Game Changer is released. I really can't wait ! I just have this ill feeling that the Game Changer is going to be geared toward the people who are getting tired of Rock Band game based consoles. Still I hope to be completely wrong.
The following is an old post of BP's.

"Volume tone (its push pull to give the 5 way 2 banks of choices total 10 presets 3 rotary encoder knob.....proto is 15 pickup wiring choices that s called the incoder

One of my frustrations in the area of instrument design is that we are hard wired to the limitations of the standard 3 and five way switches...there are so many combinations available to you that you never hear. Can you imagine having a 12 cyl car and only be able to use 7 because of the transmission?

Whe I did the bongo I was trying for a programmable switching but it was noisy and the signal became digital and colored.

THe game changer is the ability to get over 56 different combinations and the signal is still analog and never enters the digital switching area. The switching is silent and you can put any sound in any position.

You will have the ability to program your guitar from the web or from your iphone as an app. You can store favorites for different gigs or recording...you can swap patches and you can download rock stars patches

If you want to go back to the factory settings just hold the encoder down for 20 seconds and its back to new.....

THink about this on a bass single h neck in series that inner coil of the humbucking in parrallel One active one passive" BP
 

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One of the Game Changer Protoypes was a 25th. So I'm gathering that the GC will eliminate Pedals and that Amps will be set on clean and the tone controlled completely by the Game Changer? This is an important question because if I want a tone like Morse, Pet, Lee or Luke they would only have to be using a GC with No pedals with cleam Amp settings. What Amps have been run with the Game Changer ? Do some Amps work better than others with the Game Changer? Or does the Guitar with the GC installed have some USB port to run via a computer with software based Amp models?

If I'm running through an Amp, will the GC replace my pedal board? or is the GC just a new option for new guitar players so they dont have to spend thousands of dollars on pedals? Is the GC geared more to Studio sessions and will it work for live shows? I know we all have lots of questions, But when you really think about the GC, I`m wondering why Steve Morse was just given a prototype a couple of months before the GC`s release at Winter Namm.

Ahhhh.....what?

I might be wrong, but the gamechanger is a pickup switcher. Nothing more. No pedals, no electronic distortion...It's basically an automatic, programmable pickup switcher.

I might be wrong, but that's what I garnered from reading about it.
 

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Ahhhh.....what?

I might be wrong, but the gamechanger is a pickup switcher. Nothing more. No pedals, no electronic distortion...It's basically an automatic, programmable pickup switcher.

I might be wrong, but that's what I garnered from reading about it.

Your not wrong, It is a programmable Pickup Switcher. But if I want a setting like Luke or Morse, To have the same tone I would need to be using what they are using as in ie: Amps, Pedals. This is why I'm thinking it is more of a Computer,Software based with Amp Models type of deal. After reading Everthing it's the only conclusion that it adds up to. Otherwise I would have to buy every pedal luke has and have a decent Amp set on Clean.
 

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Your not wrong, It is a programmable Pickup Switcher. But if I want a setting like Luke or Morse, To have the same tone I would need to be using what they are using as in ie: Amps, Pedals. This is why I'm thinking it is more of a Computer,Software based with Amp Models type of deal. After reading Everthing it's the only conclusion that it adds up to. Otherwise I would have to buy every pedal luke has and have a decent Amp set on Clean.

You are reading too much into it. The only thing you can do is get whatever pickup routing they use. It has nothing to do with their tone past that. If you want it to sound like them you still have to get tge rest of the gear....nobody said anything about replicating their signal chain just their pickup settings...that also assumes you are using the same guitar ...

Peace,

T
 

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The gamechanger has been in beta testing for sometime now. It's even improved since I saw it in action nearly 12 months ago. As for the artists seeing it, John Petrucci had written presets back then, so he has obviously used it. You'll be able to get the artists pickup selections, not their amp and pedal sounds.
 

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But if I want a setting like Luke or Morse, To have the same tone I would need to be using what they are using as in ie: Amps, Pedals.

You'd also need to be them. Tone is 50% in the fingers dude.

Also: I'd make a good argument that the best distortion comes from the amp, not pedals (Distortion, not overdrive). Having your amp set on clean and then using a pedal to provide a distortion always sounds very forced to me.
 

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Ahhhh.....what?

I might be wrong, but the gamechanger is a pickup switcher. Nothing more. No pedals, no electronic distortion...It's basically an automatic, programmable pickup switcher.

I might be wrong, but that's what I garnered from reading about it.

Yes, I came to the same conclusion. First I thought there might be some DSP stuff involved, but everything points that this is an intelligent switching system.

This also brings another interesting question - is the gamechanger on SSS guitars different from the gamechanger on HH guitars, due to the different switching circuits? I am curious to see if the gamechanger will be specific to the guitar type or EBMM managed to create a universal unit to work on all pickup configurations.
 
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