Birchwood Casey Oil and Wax WTF!?!?!?!

[Roubster]

So I ordered the Tru-oil and Wax from Birchwood Casey so I can apply it to the neck of my Silo. The neck feels like it is a bit dry and I think it would be good to appply some of the good stuff that EB use OF COURSE. So it came today and I was looking at the bottles and there is ALL these f***ing warning and caution signs on it. WTF is up with that?!?!?!?!

The WARNING label states the following:
"WARNING: This product contains a chemical known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm."

WTF is up with that>?!?!?!?! It may cause cancer?!?!?! lol This is some freaky and funny sh*t at the same time. But none the less I guess I'll use it since EB does and I dont see a problem since I have a lot of trust in EB of course. HOWEVER, I swaer that if I get cancer from using this stuff on the Silo, EBMM better supply me with all the guitars I want damn it lol (I'm kinda serious too).

The other thing is, (I know it has been said before bla bla bla) do I really need to smooth out the neck before I put the oil and wax on??? I personally dont see the reason why since I cant feel ANY finish or oil or anything on the neck anyway. Also, just to be safe and sure, IS IT OKAY TO USE MY BARE FINGERS to rub in the oil AND wax?????????????? I would not want to get some finger cancer or some sh*t. Freakin weird ass products they make these days that will kill you if you dont do the right thing.

 

[Custone]

Scary.. I would like to know more about this too..

 

[PeteDuBaldo]

Don't worry about it unless you are in California, because if you aren't in California, it won't cause cancer.

The same warning is on cans of spraypaint, solder, brass doorknobs, gasoline, and countless other objects you come in contact with on an almost daily basis.

 

[Spudmurphy]

Don't worry about it unless you are in California, because if you aren't in California, it won't cause cancer.

The same warning is on cans of spraypaint, solder, brass doorknobs, gasoline, and countless other objects you come in contact with on an almost daily basis.

+1 with Petes remarks.

Regarding application of the Oil and wax, I'd like to offer the benefit of my recent experience and you will no doubt get others saying how they have done it.

After having my AL for a couple of weeks I took the advice of my guitar building buddy and rubbed the back of the neck with some 1600 grit paper.
I applied the oil and let it dry for 12 hours then I used 2000 grit paper.
Next I applied the wax and buffed it up. Man what a sheen !!! BUT it wasn't the same feel as the neck "I had bought".

I left it for a couple of weeks but hankered after the old feel of the neck.
So I stripped at back again and this time just applied a VERY small quantity of the oil. I just let it dry back (took about 2 hours) and it feels tacky during the drying process . I did not use the wax and won't use it again. Now the neck is how I bought it. - BUTTAAA !
All I'll do is apply oil maybe twice a year - we''ll see.
Get a refund on the wax imo, you won't need it.
Spudo

 

[peat]

its ok to use your fingers to put the oil on
it says to anyway

you can sand your neck to start with (i would reccoment nothing less than 2000grit)
but i dont think its necessary

i would only leave the oil on for 1 min then rub it off
otherwise its gonna finish and seal the neck

the wax you can leave on for as long as you want
but id just rub it on with a paper towel
then just rub it in until its all gone

^^thats it

 

[brentrocks]

i just bought some of that stuff a couple weeks ago....didnt look at the warnings.....

 

[lenny]

I am as nervous as ever ,i have read 100 posts on this topic and they are the same but different 1600 grit /2000 grit /steel wool/ no sanding , i just know im gonna screw this up hahahahaha I have to order the stuff yet but its good to get the info in advance from people who have tried different things, thanx everyone

 

[Mick]

+1 Pete I´m in germany, so I´m a little safer than you guys

Man just don´t swallow it and you will be safe.

 

[Jim Warnstedt]

I use 0000 steel wool (Cover your body and pick ups!) then very tiny amount of oil and then wax and it always turns out great!

 

[Spudmurphy]

I am as nervous as ever ,i have read 100 posts on this topic and they are the same but different 1600 grit /2000 grit /steel wool/ no sanding , i just know im gonna screw this up hahahahaha I have to order the stuff yet but its good to get the info in advance from people who have tried different things, thanx everyone

1600/2000 is literally just a "de nibber". You could spend "from here til eternity" rubbing with 1600/2000 and you wont end up with clouds of sawdust.
I've used wire wool on furniture and guitars and personally don't like using it.
I use it on my leadwork(stained glass windows) and it's fine.
The problem with steel wool is it sticks like a "beard" to your pickups - unless you tape them up! Also if you do get any shards in the wood it goes rusty!
Always wet and dry for me, ansd like I said before don't bother with the wax.
I'm unsure about rubbing the oil off after just a couple of minutes as you do want it to penetrate into the wood, as I said it does go a bit tacky.
Anyway back to the bottle of white South African wine I've opened (very nice!!!)
Spud

 

[lenny]

cool what time is it where your at spud it says u posted at 5:30 am

 

[brentrocks]

I use 0000 steel wool (Cover your body and pick ups!) then very tiny amount of oil and then wax and it always turns out great!

does the steel wool take the "dirtyness" out of the fretboard? the darkened areas of between the fets from finger dirt, ect.?

 

[MrHyde]

Don't worry about it unless you are in California, because if you aren't in California, it won't cause cancer.

+1

 

[tommyindelaware]

it'a a standard disclaimer that u wil find on most oil based products in these days of ambulance chasing & lawsuite abusive people.

it's oil !!!!!!! no big deal. if u handled it every day...u would wanna take some precautions.......but......u really don't have to worry about redoin yer neck once in a while........

i wouldn't drink it though.......

while using yer finger really wouldn't hurt anything....i'd recomend those small foam rubber throw away brushes u can buy at a hardware store 4 99 cents. cleaning yer fingers is avery messy hassle w/ the gunstock oil..........

 

[Roubster]

Thanx for all the responses people. I knew that it was most likely majority BS with the cancer thing. It was just really weird, because it felt like that warning sign should be on a box of CIGARETTES and not freakin Oil and Wax to put on WOOD, lol. Anyway, I'm gonna give the treatment a try, but I will not sand anything as I dont see the need to since I dont feel any finish or anything on the wood like I said before. I'll report back when it's done later tonight probably.

 

[Spudmurphy]

cool what time is it where your at spud it says u posted at 5:30 am

Hey Lenny
The posting that says 1600/2000 grit is a de nibber was posted at 2:35 pm here which is 0 Grenwich Meantime. I know my relatives in St Louis are 6 hours behind so that would make you about GMT -9 ?
It's 19:50 GMT as I post this.
Cheers
Spudo

 

[Spudmurphy]

does the steel wool take the "dirtyness" out of the fretboard? the darkened areas of between the fets from finger dirt, ect.?

Hi Brent
I did a Fender Srut lol! in the week and used some wire wool on the fretboard (I don't like using it for the neck) it came up real nice. Rubbed a drop of baby oil into it. The owner was very pleased.
Spud

 

[jazzbo jim]

Well, it's true everyone..Your EBMM guitars are actually carcenogenic!

Fear not though. Simply ship them to me and I will ensure they are safely disposed of.

No charge!!

You can thank me later. Now excuse me while I have a smoke....

 

[brentrocks]

Well, it's true everyone..Your EBMM guitars are actually carcenogenic!

Fear not though. Simply ship them to me and I will ensure they are safely disposed of.

No charge!!

You can thank me later. Now excuse me while I have a smoke....

LMAO!!!!!

 

[Eilif]

From the EB FAQ:

Q: How do I clean and maintain my Music Man neck?

A: To clean the neck, use a high-grade of lemon oil. If the neck is very dirty, try Murphy's Oil Soap diluted 3:1. Some players have found that using a toothbrush for cleaning is very effective.

Since the neck is unfinished, it is more susceptible to humidity changes. A very infrequent dose of gunstock oil will help to keep the neck maintained; we recommend Birchwood-Casey Tru-Oil, but any good quality gunstock oil will work. Use a small amount, leave it on for 5 minutes, then wipe it off with a paper towel. After that, apply Birchwood-Casey Tru-Wax. Be sure to douse the paper towel with water before disposing of it! Read the wax and oil manufacturer's instructions regarding disposal of these used paper towels.

Birchwood-Casey products are available at most sporting goods or gun stores. Their web address is http://www.birchwoodcasey.com.

Rosewood fingerboards should not be treated with the gunstock oil; instead they should be treated with a high grade of lemon oil. Again, for cleaning, try using the same high grade of lemon oil to clean the entire neck, both maple and rosewood fretboards. If the neck is very dirty, you can use a small amount of Murphy's Oil Soap, diluted 3:1 to clean it. Keep in mind that if the dirt has gotten into the wood, it cannot be removed except by sanding it down, which we do not recommend. It is better to keep it clean in the first place. Washing your hands first helps! On an unfinished neck, some discoloration after many hours of playing is normal. Be sure to follow all of the manufacturers recommended safety precautions when using any of these oils or waxes.