Booya! BFRs hittin the store

[ernie1966]

Yup I already acknowledged it could well be the pics on those two at DCGL. I asked for a piece of factual information, what quilt/flame wood grade is being used for the tops on these.

(I'm asking because one of the things I've got on the back burner is a custom and I'm trying to get a better feel for what the various grades look like in actual practice... not really related to the original topic, but interesting none the less)

So you are using the EBMM forum to educate yourself on premium tops for a purchase of a non-EBMM guitar?

 

[jaxadam]

So you are using the EBMM forum to educate yourself on premium tops for a purchase of a non-EBMM guitar?

No, I don't think that's the case.

I think he owns an EBMM, and he is just wondering what quality wood is used, because the pictures posted by DCGL seem to be misleading.

 

[Big Poppa]

no I think that ernie is right. Techo thanks for not continuing to question our integrity

WE use the finest tops the world has available.....

5a is a real world wood term We buy 5a only for quilt and select between 4a and 5a for flame as there caqn be no diference and sometimes the 4a's are better

good luck with your custom

 

[Karl Hungus]

I'm going to chime out now, as I don't think my input is appreciated here...

But before that, I'd just like to make it clear that I'm not trying to disparage the company or anything, and I've a big interest in these guitars, so to be frank, I'd rather I was wrong. I'd love to see someone here buy one of those guitars on DCGL, take some better pictures and post them up here saying "Hey, look at it now, it's fantastic!" That would be much better than the alternative.

 

[roburado]

I was just looking at guitar parts for a make-my-own guitar project. Then, I thought, "Okay, what I'm unintentionally trying to do here is create a Silo Special in what looks like Gold Sparkle, Silver Sparkle, or Stratus Blue or something with a figured maple top." I think, I'll just wait for Poppa & Co. to do an LE or BFR instead. Of course, it won't afford me the experience of building it myself, but I imagine it'll be cheaper. I imagine that EBMM will do a better job too.

 

[robelinda2]

BFR Silo Special will be sweet, one day!

 

[PeteDuBaldo]

I have photographed a lot of guitars and a lot of quilt tops and I can assure you that I have taken plenty of pictures of the most gorgeous quilts that are very poor representations of real life. When you have a lot of figure, especially 3D quilt, the look depends very much on the angle it is viewed at. This becomes especially important with a camera which has a single fixed lens and doesn't do stereo like you eyes do. To get a proper representation you need a lot of patience, a cloudy sky and possibly a fill flash.

Philip, you hit the nail on the head with that one... How's your LUKE? email me!

I had a devil of a time photographing a ruby LUKE - the top is perfectly bookmatched with a wicked quilt but the way the camera sees it, it doesn't always look so. I had the same situation with a quilt y2d a while back, and a flame 20th Silhouette.

Taking a good photograph can be time consuming, it's easy to point and shoot but it's not so easy to compose. It's easier to take a poor photograph than it is a good one.


I shot these today just because of this thread....

Here are a few pics of the same guitar, just differences in angle and technique ---- I can make half the quilt disappear, too. It's a stunning guitar in person but in a photograph something can be lost, and easily....

 

[Karl Hungus]

Fair enough Pete, I stand corrected, and all I'll say is that it's a damn shame DCGL's pics are so poor.

 

[Big Poppa]

there you have it the second ruby red sucks.

 

[Big Poppa]

Karl your input is wanted and you are a big man to come clean. I guess it is what happens when you take an absolute position. Relax and hang around and I love your avatar

 

[Karl Hungus]

Thanks BP.

I'll definetly hang around, I just meant that I'd chime out on this thread. I've got a little something on it's way to me, so I'd certainly be wanting to post a nice "Behold!" thread soon enough.

I shalln't spill the beans yet though.

 

[PeteDuBaldo]

Fair enough Pete, I stand corrected, and all I'll say is that it's a damn shame DCGL's pics are so poor.

Karl, no problem! Glad you are gonna stick around. It took me over 3 years to figure out how to photograph guitars with figured tops, and I can still screw it up....

 

[Karl Hungus]

Karl, no problem! Glad you are gonna stick around. It took me over 3 years to figure out how to photograph guitars with figured tops, and I can still screw it up....

I still don't trust you though, you killed my father! Prepare to die!



Nah, I trust you.

 

[Sub1 Zero]

Your avatar looks like a dude I went to school with...

 

[Dizzy]

Your avatar looks like a dude I went to school with...

Your friend looked like a 6 digit hand ????

 

[Colin]

Karl, no problem! Glad you are gonna stick around. It took me over 3 years to figure out how to photograph guitars with figured tops, and I can still screw it up....

It's really hard to get that right. These days selling a guitar involves being part musician, part web designer, part photographer, part word smith and part comedian. None of which I've gotten right.... we'll except for the comedy part right?

 

[Big Poppa]

I think you got the websmith down

 

[Lou]

Taking good quality pics is hard. I find the best ones happen with natural light. Sometimes taking a pic outside in the blazing sun is too harsh. Cloudy conditions work well, but the golden time much like movie making is just before sundown. And the angle is important too.

 

[technomancer]

Thanks for the info BP, it answered my question. Also apologies that this sort of got started on the wrong foot.

As for the woods, yes I'm educting myself on wood grades, and unless EBMM is building customs now I'll be using that knowledge for a non-EBMM guitar. I am also considering getting a blue F1 and the wood grade will play a roll in that decision as well. I also have another EBMM sitting next to me

 

[Dargin]

There isn't an official grading system used for figured woods. Some suppliers sell 4A, 5A, 10 .... we just ask for the best. I agree with Phil, angle has alot to do with how a quilt will appear in a photo.