D string buzz

[draganr]

from a day one when I purchased my stngr5 I ve noticed buzz on D. Ive settle this prob ( little bit) by raising strings up. Now, I just got back from holiday, havent played bass for 15 days and noticed AWFULL BUZZ at D string! After reanimation, I adjust action again, for a higher point. Now its again (almost) ok.
anyone knows why buzzing occurs? if not because of strings setup action, what else could it be?
I hear it with unplugged instrument but also plugged.

 

[Bill]

It could be that the relief in the neck is a little off. Where is the buzzing? If it's on the lower frets, you'll need a little more relief in the neck rather than raising the string.

 

[draganr]

buzz is worst when playing open D. i will ask some skilled person around to take care about that neck relief. thanks mate!

 

[Bill]

You're welcome! But actually, this is probably something you can take care of yourself. Check out the FAQs for Music Man basses & you'll see how easy it is to tweak the truss rod. Good luck!

 

[Moondog]

if not because of strings setup action, what else could it be?

Where exactly are you hearing the buzz??
It could be too much space @ the nut . . check out the D-string slot.
This happened on my fretless using too light a gauge string.
Thicker gauge D solved the problem (opposed to getting a new nut)

like you said, the buzzing is most noticable on the open D,,
I'd definetly check this out (just be sure to check your neck relief too)

 

[tkarter]

How many wraps you have on that D string?

tk

 

[draganr]

how many wraps? hm, you got me on this one... dont have a clue... im using DR, marc mill, fat beams... ah, could it be you think how many time i wrap it around tuning machine on h-stock?

 

[draganr]

Where exactly are you hearing the buzz??
It could be too much space @ the nut . . check out the D-string slot.
This happened on my fretless using too light a gauge string.
Thicker gauge D solved the problem (opposed to getting a new nut)

like you said, the buzzing is most noticable on the open D,,
I'd definetly check this out (just be sure to check your neck relief too)

THATS 4 SURE AN INTERESTING POINT...I WILL CHECK THE NUT!!!!

 

[tkarter]

Yes I was referring to how many wraps around the tuning peg?

tk

 

[lamerjay]

Yes I was referring to how many wraps around the tuning peg?

tk

I tend to use several wraps, how does this affect buzz?

 

[tkarter]

Not enough wraps and strings don't work like they are supposed to.

imho

tk

 

[draganr]

theres enough of it, (wraps)i dont cut strings much, like 5 or 6 wraps

 

[draganr]

it could be easily nut thing... i hear it up there and it seems a lot spacing on D string nut... if its neck, i think more than one string would buzz,eh?

 

[tadawson]

That depends on saddle heights somewhat - if one is a bit lower than the others, it may well buzz first. If you fret the E string at about the 20th fret or so, how much space is there between the strings and the frets at about the middle of the neck? On my MM basses, I run about the thickness of a credit card or a bit less. If it gets too low, things will buzz . . . . . and no reason whatsoever to fear making minute neck adjustments - it's not rocket science, after all . . . . . If you have more space than the credit card, go clockwise on the wheel about 1/8 to 1/4 turn, and wait a day or so and see where it settles. If you have less, back it off 1/8 or so at a time until you get to that spacing, and try it again. If you have been messing with the bridge, you may need to go put some things back to where they should be there as well.
Oh, and lastly, changes in the neck due to temperature and humidity changes throughout the seasons is normal - I need to tweak pretty much everything I have a couple of times a year, but not much - typically less than 1/4 turn . . .

Oh, and the nut can only affect the open string, and if it is too high, that can't be a buzz problem - only if it is too low, so based on your last post, it doen't sound like a nut problem.

- Tim

 

[draganr]

well, like i said, buzz is worst when i hit open D, and almost dissapears when playing D on frets...hmmm,almost.... i got this bass setted with pretty low action, but with perfect balance, no buzz or clangs whatsoever ( 1st owner being jazz bass teacher ) but thats iritated me as i have strong hands and like to play with more emotions and attack, so i raised action more than your credit card ( but probably not as jamerson on his fender P )... could it be weather humidity change as you said, but thats where D trouble begun....

 

[draganr]

and btw, if i may ask, as i saw you re proud bongo owner... whats the deal with them? gotta say that i dont like their look.
they having better sound? fatter? more playability?
never played one so i wonder.....

 

[tadawson]

well, like i said, buzz is worst when i hit open D, and almost dissapears when playing D on frets...hmmm,almost.... i got this bass setted with pretty low action, but with perfect balance, no buzz or clangs whatsoever ( 1st owner being jazz bass teacher ) but thats iritated me as i have strong hands and like to play with more emotions and attack, so i raised action more than your credit card ( but probably not as jamerson on his fender P )... could it be weather humidity change as you said, but thats where D trouble begun....

If the action was great before, and nothing on the bridge has slipped, then it's almost got to be a relief issue - probably too little. Check it like I mentioned before, and try about 1/8 of a turn on the wheel clockwise (looking at it from bridge to headstock) and see if that doesn't clear it up . . . .

- Tim

 

[Mobay45]

and btw, if i may ask, as i saw you re proud bongo owner... whats the deal with them? gotta say that i dont like their look.
they having better sound? fatter? more playability?
never played one so i wonder.....

Play a Bongo.

You'll forget about it's looks.

It kicks ass.

By the way - The EBMM bass forum that's full of Bongo owners probably isn't the best place to knock the Bongo. Just a warning shot across your bow. You'll thank me later.

 

[tadawson]

Play a Bongo.

You'll forget about it's looks.

It kicks ass.

By the way - The EBMM bass forum that's full of Bongo owners probably isn't the best place to knock the Bongo. Just a warning shot across your bow. You'll thank me later.

Yeah - the biggest problem a lot of us have with Bongos is that we can't stop buying the damn things . . . . I am now up to three . . . . . and I honestly can't say that I can find a downside to any of them . . . .

- Tim

 

[draganr]

Yeah - the biggest problem a lot of us have with Bongos is that we can't stop buying the damn things . . . . I am now up to three . . . . . and I honestly can't say that I can find a downside to any of them . . . .

- Tim
yea, i see that... that is the problem
but dont you want to own, say, fender or spector, or... instead of two bongos? you would still keep that one or two bong. and ofcourse stingr.................