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Big Poppa

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Hey check talk bass

All of those losers at the pit that believed the loser and attacked me personally must feel as used as a two dollar whore. Chumps.

I guess the Dude and Lakland may have separated and there is some question as to where the deposits are....It is just what hear I dont know all of the facts but lets see if Dan Lakin who got involved and published a letter of support for the dude effectively taking sides against us takes care of his customers...we did.....

How many people who slandered jack and I will offer an apology? not enough class there to expect that.
 

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I was reading those posts the other day over there and thought "He's still digging that hole" :eek: . It seems he really needs to get some help :(
 

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BP.

You took care of me when I had the Dude troubles, and I am pretty damn sure no other company would have gone to the trouble that EBMM did for me.

Lakland won't take of their customers the way that you did.
 

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I'm glad you like her, Ben. Enjoy! :D

Sterling, thanks so much for all that you and your crew did to help me when I had these troubles. You guys came through for me in a major way three different times during the Dargie fiasco. You were supportive all the way through. You and your team "get it" beyond belief in terms of humanity and customer service.

It was an interesting experience, to say the least, for me to see both sides. The EBMM team went above and beyond, even calling me to check and see that I was doing okay. On the other hand, for standing up for myself with "the loser" I was libeled and threatened, and my name was dragged through the dirt in a public forum. I can certainly understand your frustration with what you and Jack went through.

Though this means another person got ripped off, which I am not happy about, I am glad that more light is being shed on the situation. At the end of the day I have friends for life at this forum and I couldn't be happier with my EBMM basses.
 

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You know what I think? I think that if the Dood-Dan connection really is going south, one of two things will happen.

1. Steve will paint himself as the aggrieved party.
2. The hard-core apologists will paint Steve as the aggrieved party.

Maybe there are a few who are smart enough to have the thought, "Hmm, hasn't this happened before?" And then make the connection.

I guess the Dude and Lakland may have separated and there is some question as to where the deposits are....It is just what hear I dont know all of the facts

Nor do I, but I'm hearing drums in the distance. I guess it could be Adam Ant's Greatest Hit.

How many people who slandered jack and I will offer an apology?

I don't know about you, but I'm going to sleep close enough to my computer that the little email 'ding' will wake me.

I sincerely hope that no one - no customer - has to go through another crisis. The guys who put deposits down don't deserve it, even though they should have known better than to do so. Maybe they didn't have the info they should have had, but if they were around for the last few nasty gasps of the VBTC-EBMM or Dude-Bovinehost relationships, they should have figured it out.

It was surely pretty damned obvious.
 

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It is unfortunate that anyone that would leave a deposit (or the full amount!) and wait around for an instrument only to find that the order had not been placed and the guy taking the money just ignoring all inquiries.
 

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Hey check talk bass

All of those losers at the pit that believed the loser and attacked me personally must feel as used as a two dollar whore. Chumps.

I guess the Dude and Lakland may have separated and there is some question as to where the deposits are....It is just what hear I dont know all of the facts but lets see if Dan Lakin who got involved and published a letter of support for the dude effectively taking sides against us takes care of his customers...we did.....

How many people who slandered jack and I will offer an apology? not enough class there to expect that.

Well He's Had a Reputation for Many Years, I'm Surprised anyone gets Involved with this guy.
 

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It is unfortunate that anyone that would leave a deposit (or the full amount!) and wait around for an instrument only to find that the order had not been placed and the guy taking the money just ignoring all inquiries.

Just Honest People, I've always Offer to Pay up front, Just the way I was raised, Be a Man or Lady and Pay The Fiddler simple as that, and yes I've been burned so I have changed things in Life the way I conduct business.
 

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It was a stressful time for me and I know for several others it had to be even more stressful. I got my Dargie after calling him everyday for a week but I did get it, others weren’t so lucky.

I own a Lakland, it’s a good “copy” of a Jazz bass, I bought it from Beaver way before I discovered EBMM, but it pissed me off when Dan stuck up for Dude. I could easily see thru the BS, why couldn’t he.

You can blame it all on drugs if you want to, but he screwed so many of my friends I’ll never forgive him. I do hope he gets straight, but just so he might feel some of the pain he caused.

BP you and Jack took some very undeserved heat from this mess, I know who’s the blame. I have a bass on order from you right now and have every intention of buying more of your products. Good stuff, good people and good vibes, that’s what EBMM is all about. It’s a shame that this all happened but it hasn’t changed a thing for me, I’m an EBMM guy first and foremost!
 

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After reading that thread I feel sick thinking about those poor guys. Although I did like the line "DD = Druggie Delight"
 

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One policy I have for my life is:
No good comes from backstabbing

That's just me...

Here is where it stands (Understatements of the month candidates)
Dude has told me several times that I can call him what ever degrading name I feel is appropriate. There's plenty that he is due.
Dude finally did refund my $ but that was no fncking fun.
Because of some choices Dude makes I have my own standards that make me not want to associate with him.

I thought long and hard about the following statement to describe how I feel about Dude.

Dude's problems run deeper than my care.​

For me this is a closed issue.
 

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Hey check talk bass

All of those losers at the pit that believed the loser and attacked me personally must feel as used as a two dollar whore. Chumps.

I guess the Dude and Lakland may have separated and there is some question as to where the deposits are....It is just what hear I dont know all of the facts but lets see if Dan Lakin who got involved and published a letter of support for the dude effectively taking sides against us takes care of his customers...we did.....

How many people who slandered jack and I will offer an apology? not enough class there to expect that.

Looking at the dates, it seems that thread was started back in -03. I´ve never bought anything from Steve but I visit the Dudepit forum every once in awhile since the best forum regarding Wal basses are there. Hard to know what´s going on behind the scenes but it definately seems like he´s in some sort of personal crisis now and that is always sad when that happens to someone. Saw over at the Pit that he is selling off and putting his vintage instruments business to rest. Not a word regarding Lakland problems tho. I won´t get into politics and drama in the business but it seems like someone has made errors abit to many times when reading the thread over at Talk Bass and concidering the trouble between Steve and EB. I´m very greatful tho that he supports the Wal forum and so are pretty much all people interested in Wal basses around the world since they´re not made no more and Pete "the Fish" Stevens health is not the best. Sad thing. Pete is one of the good guys in the business. And I don´t think that Steve gets any money for doing this. At least not from me. So I personally can´t judge him and wish that he´ll burn in hell but I feel sorry indeed for people that has made down payments and has problems with Steve. That is no fun. No fun at all.

Sincerely//Jan
 
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I have that strange feeling there's a big specimen of a pleonasm in the title of this thread, but I'm having a hard time finding it out... ;)

Not sure I understood all the subtilities of that story, but I just wish every customer who made a deposit will get the care he/she needs.
 
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