EBMM EVH ~ Good Article, Interesting Facts

[PRSPlayer]

Now that I'm a proud owner of an EVH, I've been trying to gather as much information on these guitars as I can. (even though I STILL don't know what year mine was manufactured serial #84358 hint, hint)

Here's an interesting article for those interested.
I can't say that I agree with the author in his comparisons to the Wolfgang guitar, but it is a site dedicated to Wolfgang guitars, so that is to be expected I guess.

If anyone else comes accross articles, or a simular site that would give any more information, it would be greatly appreciated.



http://www.wolfgangguitars.com/MusicManEVH.htm

 

[ZacAttack]

Well this is a bit off topic but you may find it interesting.

www.evh-guitars.com
http://www.vintagekramer.com/5150f.htm

 

[Hookpunch]

He must be the one guy that thinks the Wolfgang is a "much better" guitar than the EBMM EVH . I think hero worship of Ed clouded his judgement.

 

[PRSPlayer]

Yeah, well I don't agree with his take on Wolfgang guitars either, but there are some pretty interesting facts about the EBMM EVH models that I didn't know before.

 

[hbucker]

I submitted a photo of mine to him a while back and he's got it displayed on that page.

It is a pretty interesting site.

While I own a couple of Wolfgangs and like them very much, I don't agree that they are much better than the EBMM's. I also don't agree that the EBMM's are much better than the Wolf. The EVH and Wolf are very different guitars from the neck down to the pickups and the carved top.

It's a preference thing IMO.

 

[Warg Master]

I love my Axis and I love my Wolf... They are Different guitars, sure. but as the post above mine says, it's all about preference.

 

[ned911]

Try this one

http://www.wolfgangregistry.com/evh-guitar-info/ebmm-evh-info.html

With input from our mod dwf1004.

Ned

 

[hambucker]

"Don't take those strings all the way off! - When changing the strings always leave one string with tension. Ernie Ball says you can very easily ruin the neck and your guitar by releasing the string tension without loosening the truss rod. It is a very bad idea to ship the guitar with loose strings or without strings unless you had adjusted the truss rod. The tech I spoke with this about at EB says he has seen guitars where the neck and/or body are badly damaged because of this."

Is this true? I doesn't sound right. I've worked in music shops, shipped them and we always shipped them detuned, enough to support the neck but not tuned to pitch. I have also never heard of taking strings off haming the neck. Maybe if you cut them all at once, but I have changed many a guitar string and never hurt one by removing strings. This guy sounds really biased and misinformed.

 

[dwf1004]

Don't believe the hype.

You can remove the strings, more than one at a time...you won't have an immediate crossbow if you do, I promise.

It would be suggested to leave one on, though, for the sake of retaining tension on the Floyd tremelo, in given instances, unless you have something to block the tremelo, ie. a TremoLok or thick piece of plastic/plexiglass you can put under the trem to compensate the tension while the strings are off. The absence of the string tension on the trem could cause it to pop loose from behind the mounting studs (uh huh huh...stud...) and slide into home on the finish.

That would be extremely below average.

Hope that gives you some true insight there....

 

[jongitarz]

"Don't take those strings all the way off! - When changing the strings always leave one string with tension. Ernie Ball says you can very easily ruin the neck and your guitar by releasing the string tension without loosening the truss rod. It is a very bad idea to ship the guitar with loose strings or without strings unless you had adjusted the truss rod. The tech I spoke with this about at EB says he has seen guitars where the neck and/or body are badly damaged because of this."


The tech that said that stuff is a nimrod and is no longer with the company, but I am sure he is still a nimrod. You can take all the strings off at once, just put something between the body and the bridge so if the springs pull the bridge off the pivot bolts the bridge won't crash into the body. This can cause damamge.

If you ship a guitar, ship it tuned to pitch, and it will be fine. We ship alot of guitars world wide and they are all shipped tuned to pitch.

If you remove the strings for a long period of time, and don't loosen the truss rod, the neck can back bow. Not good. I hope this helps clear things up.

Jon

 

[SteveB]

El Jardinero has spoken!

Thanks for keeping everyone honest, Jon!

 

[timrams88]

(The quality of the tops on the Music Man EVH guitars are fantastic making them some of the most beautiful guitars ever produced for this type of guitar. The quality of the overall guitar isn't as good. They don't hold up nearly as well as the Wolfgangs)

i know everyone has there own oppinoins but thats just nuts

 

[OrangeChannel]

"Don't take those strings all the way off! - When changing the strings always leave one string with tension. Ernie Ball says you can very easily ruin the neck and your guitar by releasing the string tension without loosening the truss rod. It is a very bad idea to ship the guitar with loose strings or without strings unless you had adjusted the truss rod. The tech I spoke with this about at EB says he has seen guitars where the neck and/or body are badly damaged because of this."


The tech that said that stuff is a nimrod and is no longer with the company, but I am sure he is still a nimrod. You can take all the strings off at once, just put something between the body and the bridge so if the springs pull the bridge off the pivot bolts the bridge won't crash into the body. This can cause damamge.

If you ship a guitar, ship it tuned to pitch, and it will be fine. We ship alot of guitars world wide and they are all shipped tuned to pitch.

If you remove the strings for a long period of time, and don't loosen the truss rod, the neck can back bow. Not good. I hope this helps clear things up.

Jon

Hehe. I'm living proof of the tuned to pitch thing. Truth be told I didn't even HAVE to tune it.

 

[hambucker]

It would be suggested to leave one on, though, for the sake of retaining tension on the Floyd tremelo, in given instances, unless you have something to block the tremelo, ie. a TremoLok or thick piece of plastic/plexiglass you can put under the trem to compensate the tension while the strings are off. The absence of the string tension on the trem could cause it to pop loose from behind the mounting studs (uh huh huh...stud...) and slide into home on the finish.

I've got a hardtail so no worries!

 

[VinceV]

I've dealt with Geoff(wolfgangguitars.com) a few times. Nice guy. I sent him a few pics of my Wolfgangs but he never put them up.

 

[koogie2k]

Wolf deezz....I am just not gonna buy what that dude is trying to sell. I have played a few of the Wolfie models and, well, Eddie burned his bridge. I just don't find them to be "all that" personally. Of course, I love the Axis models and may buy one in the near future.....

 

[ZacAttack]

"Don't take those strings all the way off! - When changing the strings always leave one string with tension. Ernie Ball says you can very easily ruin the neck and your guitar by releasing the string tension without loosening the truss rod. It is a very bad idea to ship the guitar with loose strings or without strings unless you had adjusted the truss rod. The tech I spoke with this about at EB says he has seen guitars where the neck and/or body are badly damaged because of this."

Is this true? I doesn't sound right. I've worked in music shops, shipped them and we always shipped them detuned, enough to support the neck but not tuned to pitch. I have also never heard of taking strings off haming the neck. Maybe if you cut them all at once, but I have changed many a guitar string and never hurt one by removing strings. This guy sounds really biased and misinformed.

About the string thing. I have been told that when re-stringing a bolt on neck guitar, not to re-string it from the big E down, because it can put more tension on one side of the neck than is desired, and could over time do harm. I have a 74 Gibson S-1 Marauder and an Epiphone LP Special II with a bolt on necks. When I re-string them I start with the small e and the go to the big E and work my way in. I used to go from big E down before I heard this and never noticed an problems, but just to be safe I changed the way I re-string all my guitars bolt on or set necks. I have also been told that stringing from the big E down can damage the nut, mess up the intonation and may over time cause you to need a truss rod collar adjustment. Even though I respect the information given to me (by several guitar techs over the 22 years I have been playing) I never put much stock in them being the gosphel. I just thought it made a little since so why not be on the safe side. Feel free to say I have been misinformed or de-bunk this info. Thats why I posted it, I want to hear your opinions and expertese about re-stringing from big E down.


Thanks
Zac

 

[jongitarz]

IMHO...nonsense

 

[ZacAttack]

IMHO...nonsense

Thanks for your reply. Like I said, I never put much stock in it, but figured it couldn't hurt. I used to be a stagehand at a national room here in Fort Worth as well as being in and around countless amature bands and have talked to alot of guitar techs over the years as well as seasoned players. They all seem to have a bit of a different spin on re-stringing, tuning,cleaning and polishing and on and on and on. I always try to weed through the BS and form opinions on common scence and my own experience. And more times than not I take the side of caution, but the re-stringing thing is about as cautious as I let it get. You wouldn't belive some of the quirky stuff I have heard. Everything from de-tuning every time you put it down to keeping your cased guitar at a perfect 45 degree angle during transport, and it just goes on and on.


Zac

 

[hambucker]

If you really want to keep equal tension on the neck, wouldn't you go high E, low E, B, A, etc? I think I'll go with Jon. I don't see how I can argue with an EB tech.