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Philip

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Hi all,

I've got a little question for you EBMM JP owners. So I received my EBMM not so long ago and it was set up with 10's. I liked it but I was using 9-46 gauge for a few years now and wanted to give it a shot. Before the change the guitar was setup flawless from the factory and the tremolo worked great and was returning to pitch most of the time.

I changed the strings few days ago and liked them on the JP. Of course the bridge moved back a little but still the trem worked great. Today I decided to set it up. I leveled the trem with the screws on the back and set the intonation. After that process the guitar can't stay in tune, when I bend the G string it goes sharp and when I move the trem bar the tuning goes flat. I've probably messed sth up.

So do you have any tips what to do? And does the plate which is holding the springs and have the screws for regulating the bridge angle have to be parallel? In other words does the screws have to be setup equally? I'm considering going back to 10's but I'd like to keep the 9's and have it setup properly.


Sorry for posting problems, I've tried to email Jon but from probably obvious reasons he disabled that function


God bless ya,

Philip
 

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Philip said:
Hi all,

I've got a little question for you EBMM JP owners. So I received my EBMM not so long ago and it was set up with 10's. I liked it but I was using 9-46 gauge for a few years now and wanted to give it a shot. Before the change the guitar was setup flawless from the factory and the tremolo worked great and was returning to pitch most of the time.

I changed the strings few days ago and liked them on the JP. Of course the bridge moved back a little but still the trem worked great. Today I decided to set it up. I leveled the trem with the screws on the back and set the intonation. After that process the guitar can't stay in tune, when I bend the G string it goes sharp and when I move the trem bar the tuning goes flat. I've probably messed sth up.

So do you have any tips what to do? And does the plate which is holding the springs and have the screws for regulating the bridge angle have to be parallel? In other words does the screws have to be setup equally? I'm considering going back to 10's but I'd like to keep the 9's and have it setup properly.


Sorry for posting problems, I've tried to email Jon but from probably obvious reasons he disabled that function


God bless ya,

Philip

Sounds like it may be a question of your moving the mounting post screws down in an attempt to ge the bridge flat after changing to nines from tens. To change the bridge angle to get things flat, you just adjust the spring tension inside the body cavity at the trem-claw. Try and get the mounting post screws back to where they were, and adjust the springs. Also you may need to lube at the nut and the bridge.
 

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GHWelles,

My English isn't the best so I probably didn't clarify sth. To level the trem I've adjusted two screws at the back of the guitar (I took off the plastic plate covering the tremolo) which were holding a metal part which is holding the end of the springs. Am I correct that this is a proper way to get the bridge flat?
 

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Philip said:
GHWelles,

My English isn't the best so I probably didn't clarify sth. To level the trem I've adjusted two screws at the back of the guitar (I took off the plastic plate covering the tremolo) which were holding a metal part which is holding the end of the springs. Am I correct that this is a proper way to get the bridge flat?

Got it. Yes that is correct. Try lubing the trem and nut at all contact points.
 

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thanks! I'll try to buy sth in the music store tomorrow to lube that parts


Philip
 

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I made a trip to two music stores and non of them carry any lubricants. In both stores they told me to use pencil. I know it would work for the nut but the bridge I don't think so.

So do you have any secret grandma's recipies for lubricants? What could I use instead of Big Bend's Nut Sauce? :)

Philip
 

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Philip,

I haven't tried it myself, but I recall reading on this forum that some guys use Chap Stick (lip balm) and I think they add some graphite powder from pencils.
 

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Philip,

I don't know if you can get this in Poland, but the lubricant I used on my Petrucci's trem posts and knife edges recently was something like this:

http://www.finishlineusa.com/products/teflon-plus-lube.htm

It's actually a bicycle lubricant, but you can use it on guitars too. It's Teflon-based and reduces friction greatly as a result.

(edit) Here's the Polish distributor's website:
http://www.velo.com.pl/

and the exact link:

http://www.velo.com.pl/finishline/finishline_03.htm

Hope this helps.
 
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Philip

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Wow thanks Steve.

And Jeff thanks for info!! There are 3 stores in my city which should carry this stuff,

Philip
 

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Philip said:
Wow thanks Steve.

And Jeff thanks for info!! There are 3 stores in my city which should carry this stuff,

Philip

No problem. If you get it, just spray a little on a Q-tip or cotton swab and rub it on the trem posts and knife edges (with the trem off of the guitar, of course). Make sure your trem posts are level, and you should be set.
 

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there will be problem with taking of the trem cause I've got a piezo version and the whole trem is connected with the body with a wire. It leads to the battery.

I will just use it on the nut a little and saddles. Mostly on the places where strings are touching some metal parts
 
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