maddog
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Did you try turning down the volume on the bass?
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Mogee
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I know that if I am really diggin in, I can sometimes get a trebally clicking type noise. I usually either turn up the amp volyume so I do nat have to play as hard, as well as take the treble down a bit on my bass. It seems like newer strings cause this more than a more seasoned string will.
DaddyFlip
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Let 'em all go.
BP- I respectfully submit that the advice given here was helpful, non-destructive, process of elimination things that kevins could try in response to his question. We establised early that the problem was not likely with the bass since it manifested itself only with one of the amps. The one post regarding the bass itself suggested a professional setup, which could not have hurt anything, even if it wasn't the problem. As it turns out, kevins problem was addressed by the majority of the advice that was given (all except for mine!)
I was thinking about recent threads discussing forum help and other signs of civilization's demise. We live in an age of DIY, FAQ and IMO. You can't complain about wasting Customer Service time with run of the mill questions and then expect people not to ask them on the forum, which is the only place one can expect at least someone to have experienced a similar problem. Unfortunately, that one person may not read the post; fortunately, most people that read the forums everyday are more than willing, and often qualified to help. I've read the FAQs; they don't answer everything. Plus, sometimes, people just want other people to hear about and share in their problems and questions. Let 'em all go.
In a perfect world, everone would buy from a reputable dealer, pay MSRP, and let the dealer make all the adjustments and change the strings. The dealer would have the knowledge to solve every problem from the factory training he received and would be within one hour driving distance of everyone. Because this traditional business model is gone, its accompanying traditional support model is gone. People go to the internet for everything. People want cheaper products and cheaper support. They come to the forum to get as many "two cents worth" as possible, hoping it will add up to something of value. Many times it does. Let 'em all go.
I was also thinking of your marketising blog and how the non-traditional (Rock Band, Apple) won and the dinosaurs missed out on the opportunity to give the consumer what he really wanted. Rather than dis' forum support, embrace and encourage it or else ignore it. This is what forums are all about; people interacting with people. Unfortunately, this is how we do it now. Let 'em all go.
BP, I love you, your company, your philosophy and your products. I came out of nowhere with the help of an enthusiastic dealer to embrace what you're doing and to buy your stuff (not in that order). I love this forum because folks are having fun, keeping it clean and eager to help. It's part of life now. Let 'em all go.
I sort of felt this was PM material, but I know you can handle it. We're all on the same team here... EBMM rocks!
BP- I respectfully submit that the advice given here was helpful, non-destructive, process of elimination things that kevins could try in response to his question. We establised early that the problem was not likely with the bass since it manifested itself only with one of the amps. The one post regarding the bass itself suggested a professional setup, which could not have hurt anything, even if it wasn't the problem. As it turns out, kevins problem was addressed by the majority of the advice that was given (all except for mine!)
I was thinking about recent threads discussing forum help and other signs of civilization's demise. We live in an age of DIY, FAQ and IMO. You can't complain about wasting Customer Service time with run of the mill questions and then expect people not to ask them on the forum, which is the only place one can expect at least someone to have experienced a similar problem. Unfortunately, that one person may not read the post; fortunately, most people that read the forums everyday are more than willing, and often qualified to help. I've read the FAQs; they don't answer everything. Plus, sometimes, people just want other people to hear about and share in their problems and questions. Let 'em all go.
In a perfect world, everone would buy from a reputable dealer, pay MSRP, and let the dealer make all the adjustments and change the strings. The dealer would have the knowledge to solve every problem from the factory training he received and would be within one hour driving distance of everyone. Because this traditional business model is gone, its accompanying traditional support model is gone. People go to the internet for everything. People want cheaper products and cheaper support. They come to the forum to get as many "two cents worth" as possible, hoping it will add up to something of value. Many times it does. Let 'em all go.
I was also thinking of your marketising blog and how the non-traditional (Rock Band, Apple) won and the dinosaurs missed out on the opportunity to give the consumer what he really wanted. Rather than dis' forum support, embrace and encourage it or else ignore it. This is what forums are all about; people interacting with people. Unfortunately, this is how we do it now. Let 'em all go.
BP, I love you, your company, your philosophy and your products. I came out of nowhere with the help of an enthusiastic dealer to embrace what you're doing and to buy your stuff (not in that order). I love this forum because folks are having fun, keeping it clean and eager to help. It's part of life now. Let 'em all go.
I sort of felt this was PM material, but I know you can handle it. We're all on the same team here... EBMM rocks!
DaddyFlip
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You can find this one, in the FAQ here:
how-do-i-set-up-my-music-man-bass | music-man-basses | faq
Lot's of other good stuff there, too; check it out. Good luck!
spencer
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yes active basses do seem to havemore super highs in their tone. Nothing complicated about that. I have owned about 15 basses and I have played 1000s oh and the bigal I own has a passive/active switch. So I'm 100% confident when I say this.
As far as mark bass amps.
Yes amplifiers have voicings and markbasses with everything set flat will have less super highs (normally the same highs I attribute to active basses)
yes I have ABed them and I have owned multiple amps. Multiple gk, multiple ampeg, aguilar, Mesa, and markbass. Db750 is similarly voiced in upper freq.
Does that clear everything up.
Also it's impossible to say markbass is as flat as an amp can get. You can't tell that by ear and if it was
perfectly flat it probably wouldn't sound too good.
Big Poppa
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....You have played bass for a year....You need to trust me if you saw the instruments where someone "did the process fo elimination" you would see the problem. Our problem the companies and the end users.
Trust me....asking strangers to diagnose your problem when they can hold it play it and hear it is one thing...it doesnt work when they cant do the above....
Dis the forum? I dont get it..
Please I gave you a nice compliment on a message to me and make sure that you dont become a self appointed moderator or reshape the forum...thanks
Trust me....asking strangers to diagnose your problem when they can hold it play it and hear it is one thing...it doesnt work when they cant do the above....
Dis the forum? I dont get it..
Please I gave you a nice compliment on a message to me and make sure that you dont become a self appointed moderator or reshape the forum...thanks
bovinehost
Administrator
Trust me when I tell you guys that you do NOT want to be a moderator! I love it and it's been very good to me, but there are those times.....the phone rings. The gravelly voice on the other end. "Jackie, have you seen the forum this morning?" Heh heh.
This is why I continually tell you guys that it's just damned hard to diagnose a problem you can't see or touch or bite the living bejeezus out of.
As with Coastie's thread the other day, this isn't directed at the originator here, but let's just say someone posts that they're getting excessive noise. Clicks, whatever, noise. You do not know, nor do I, if they have the treble on the bass dimed, stainless steel strings, a tweeter cranked up to +11 and playing with a quarter for a pick.
You gotta get your eyeballs on it. It's like an internet romance. She types good, maybe her syntax is excellent, but until you wake up next to her in the morning, you just do not know.
Advice is cool, don't get me wrong. But let's be careful out there.
This is why I continually tell you guys that it's just damned hard to diagnose a problem you can't see or touch or bite the living bejeezus out of.
As with Coastie's thread the other day, this isn't directed at the originator here, but let's just say someone posts that they're getting excessive noise. Clicks, whatever, noise. You do not know, nor do I, if they have the treble on the bass dimed, stainless steel strings, a tweeter cranked up to +11 and playing with a quarter for a pick.
You gotta get your eyeballs on it. It's like an internet romance. She types good, maybe her syntax is excellent, but until you wake up next to her in the morning, you just do not know.
Advice is cool, don't get me wrong. But let's be careful out there.
Big Poppa
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Jack Daddy Flip is a great guy and smart...But here is the eighth post from the boss....How is that dissing the forum? The guy doesnt have a problem with one amp and has it with another....some told him to change his pickup height.....ITS AMP EQ PROBLEM....
I let it run because I knew that well meaning people would give him many things to do....if they did them all the bass would be a bigger problem for us and it isnt the bass in the first place. Really this is a Kustom Amp forum issue.
Daddy please stop and think that there is a formula here and maybe you would do it differently if you owned the place but Im not so sure you would do it better. WE would die if this became solely a diy self help instrument repair or techniqur forum
BUt please dont tell me what do do when I gave a great answer early on.
bovinehost
Administrator
You're preaching to the choir, boss, but you have a viewpoint that not everyone gets. I like to think I get it MORE OFTEN, but sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. Which is good, I'm always learning something from you - seriously. I have to pay attention. As you know, it can be painful.
My one goal in threads like this is to help people understand not only the complexity of internet diagnosis but also the sheer lack of information we generally deal with. "I get noise." Sure, so do I, because now I'm playing roundwounds after twenty years of playing FLATS. But I can't blame the rounds, although I'd like to. I mean, I know YOU get this, but there has to be a point at which everyone else goes, "Oh, yeah, okay, I see that" without thinking I (or you) am trying to repress their god-given right to dispense advice.
Whew. Sometimes this forum stuff is hard, like math.
My one goal in threads like this is to help people understand not only the complexity of internet diagnosis but also the sheer lack of information we generally deal with. "I get noise." Sure, so do I, because now I'm playing roundwounds after twenty years of playing FLATS. But I can't blame the rounds, although I'd like to. I mean, I know YOU get this, but there has to be a point at which everyone else goes, "Oh, yeah, okay, I see that" without thinking I (or you) am trying to repress their god-given right to dispense advice.
Whew. Sometimes this forum stuff is hard, like math.
DaddyFlip
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Yes, sir; you did, and I won't. I enjoy contributing positively to the forum.
With almost 14,000 posts, you are definitely not a forum dis'er; I was speaking more about frowning on random, anonymous, uninformed advice from forumites like me. When you hear it described like that, it makes more sense how scary it can be. I think most of us, and you, realized it was amp related, so the goal should be to steer the asker toward the right solution, even if it should be on another forum. Personally, I hate DIY; I want someone who knows what they're doing to help me. And, I regret that our interaction with one another is less personal and more of this. What did we do before all this remote communication technology?
I wouldn't presume to TELL you what to do here; you're THE man and you should know (you did give the right answer, after all). I was suggesting that there is value in forum advice. I'm just glad kevins didn't take his question to Yahoo! Answers or worse (if that exists). I would want folks to feel comfortable asking their questions here. I do wish they would see your bold signature "Please contact Customer Service before posting instrument issues". Good tip.
I see it; clearly. You guys have a tricky balancing act to pull off. In hindsight, would you have wanted this called in to Customer Service? Especially given the thread title, '...on my amp!'?
I have a BS in Math, but I don't want to be a moderator! Please, suppress the BS jokes. Thanks!
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DaddyFlip
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This forum's gonna get me in trouble! I'm feeling guilty for having brought offense, so I'm trying to makeup by bringing the facts of what caused me to rant. At the time, I did not see any reference to making changes to the guitar. The above was the reference to pickup height, but Hellboy quickly, rightly and properly discounted it as part of the troubleshooting. When I saw your "screwed up" comment, I sort of took offense because I didn't see anyone suggest changing something other than EQ on the bass. In my mind EBMM was in the clear and we were diagnosing the Kustom amp for free. That's all it was; a miscommunication that I took personal and I shouldn't have. I'll take my chill pill right before bed. Good night!
sorry for any confusion here or anything i was came here cause i figured as i was testing out musicman basses when i was 16 i noticed a lot of "clickeyness" on the amps at the various guitar centers, all of these were head cabinet style amps too. and now that im starting to actually figure out the bass i bought when i was 17 or so ive been working around with various eq settings and seeing what works. as said the clicking can be eliminated fully by putting the trebble at a -1.
but i did get the clicking to a minimum. i guess what the real question i was asking is, can you guys get a clicking attack noise out of your stingrays and do you have to eq that noise out as well or is that completely a non issue at all unrelated to the bass whatsover? is it an issue of strings mellowing out? my flats are about 6 months in.
i read comparisons between the two eq and the three eq mentioning this and it scares me and makes me scared i bought the wrong bass for 1k! but i dont think that probobly is the issue as my 3eq sounds pretty sweet, im also worried i cant get a warm sound out of it because of similar posts but i know thats me being crazy(i got OCD when it comes to sound eqing and such) and with flatwounds/playing between the neck and the pickups it sounds warmer than many a other bass. plus a lot of those dudes are old fogies(j/k). trouble is that i havent played many other basses besides the one i got, never really liked their sounds that much, and enjoy the variety of the stingray. i always thought that it had a much sweeter more feel good tone to it than the p and j did. it feels a lot more alive than both of those fender issue basses do. the thing is i dont know if fret noise, attack noise are a common problem on them.
which ive played on ps and js but owning a bass and playing on it are far different to me, i look back at what i knew about the bass i played back then and see i didnt know jack about playing it/eqing it and everything. i didnt know the thing put out around 2x the volume output of a passive bass and that having the volume all the way up isnt necessarily going to give me the sound i want. still have a lot to learn.
so all in all im asking can this clicking sound be heard in your respective stingrays if you crank the trebble up, the noise that obviously comes from moving your finger accross the string. and also is there always going to be a faint instance of attack noise in the background when you play at higher volumes on an amp, were talking the 300 watt range here.
thanks for everything and i hope thats much clearer
and to make my settings more clear heres what i got bass PA set up wise.
this set up has no clicking to it
lets say the 0 boost/cut range is 6:00
vol 80%
bass 7:45
mid 9:20
trebble: 6:00
on the amplifier the bass/treb/mid main eqs have settings for the center frequencies for each its
bass 55hz this is at 3:00
mid 350hz this is at 1:30
trebble which is all the way up and its frequency is 4kz
then theres the band eqs which are -12+12
30+6
50+12
100+12
200 0
400 0
800 0
1.6k 3
3.2k 3
and
6.4k 0
gain is at a little less than a third up
i play on a 3eq H and i play right above where they put the second pickup on a HH, my attack is actually pretty minimal. thanks again!
but i did get the clicking to a minimum. i guess what the real question i was asking is, can you guys get a clicking attack noise out of your stingrays and do you have to eq that noise out as well or is that completely a non issue at all unrelated to the bass whatsover? is it an issue of strings mellowing out? my flats are about 6 months in.
i read comparisons between the two eq and the three eq mentioning this and it scares me and makes me scared i bought the wrong bass for 1k! but i dont think that probobly is the issue as my 3eq sounds pretty sweet, im also worried i cant get a warm sound out of it because of similar posts but i know thats me being crazy(i got OCD when it comes to sound eqing and such) and with flatwounds/playing between the neck and the pickups it sounds warmer than many a other bass. plus a lot of those dudes are old fogies(j/k). trouble is that i havent played many other basses besides the one i got, never really liked their sounds that much, and enjoy the variety of the stingray. i always thought that it had a much sweeter more feel good tone to it than the p and j did. it feels a lot more alive than both of those fender issue basses do. the thing is i dont know if fret noise, attack noise are a common problem on them.
which ive played on ps and js but owning a bass and playing on it are far different to me, i look back at what i knew about the bass i played back then and see i didnt know jack about playing it/eqing it and everything. i didnt know the thing put out around 2x the volume output of a passive bass and that having the volume all the way up isnt necessarily going to give me the sound i want. still have a lot to learn.
so all in all im asking can this clicking sound be heard in your respective stingrays if you crank the trebble up, the noise that obviously comes from moving your finger accross the string. and also is there always going to be a faint instance of attack noise in the background when you play at higher volumes on an amp, were talking the 300 watt range here.
thanks for everything and i hope thats much clearer
and to make my settings more clear heres what i got bass PA set up wise.
this set up has no clicking to it
lets say the 0 boost/cut range is 6:00
vol 80%
bass 7:45
mid 9:20
trebble: 6:00
on the amplifier the bass/treb/mid main eqs have settings for the center frequencies for each its
bass 55hz this is at 3:00
mid 350hz this is at 1:30
trebble which is all the way up and its frequency is 4kz
then theres the band eqs which are -12+12
30+6
50+12
100+12
200 0
400 0
800 0
1.6k 3
3.2k 3
and
6.4k 0
gain is at a little less than a third up
i play on a 3eq H and i play right above where they put the second pickup on a HH, my attack is actually pretty minimal. thanks again!
Hellboy
Well-known member
lol That eq description is way to advanced for me to understand described like that and (gonna make BP happy now) I would really need to see your gear in person to be able to give a good advice here. But in general, eq and sound all dependes on three things.
1. Your bass (type of strings, pups/electronics e.t.c.).
2. Your amp/speaker cab.
3. The acoustics in the room that you are playing in.
The best thing to do is to adjust the input gain on your amp and then start out with a flat eq on your bass and on your amp. That is always a good start. Don´t forget to keep your tweeter volume on your speaker cab flat too (if there is one). Some of my bass-playing friends hate tweeters in speaker cabs so they either turn them all the way down if that is possible or even perform more drastic things if they have the knollage. Tweeter or no tweeter is all a matter of taste. Turn it off if you don´t want that hi end in your bass sound. Rather common thing. A flat setting should work fine most of the time and if that doesn´t sound good then you´ve most likely bought a amp that doesn´t sound the way you want it to sound. And the rest is really about adjusting the sound/eq to compensate for the acoustics in the room and to make small adjustments so it sound the way you like it. I often add a hint of bass on my Stingray´s eq and keep the rest flat. I like low frequencies. If you´ll be playing in a big open room with stone walls then you need to make some adjustments for that and if there are lots of fabrics and soft materials in the room you´ll get a different sound because of that. Acoustics is a science all by itself and it´s good to understand the basics. That will definately help anyone to achieve the sound one likes under different circumstances. But the basic idea is to always start out with a flat eq if you don´t know what you´re doing. Turn the tweeter off if you don´t like that hi end in your bass sound. If that doesn´t sound good in a decent/neutral room then you should look for another amp.
Some rooms/halls are just impossible to get a good bass sound in and that is just to accept. Try to make the best out of it. Not much else to do. And when doing gigs or rehearsing, listen to the sound guy and your band mates when it comes to stage volume and other things. They´ll hate you otherwise.
Sincerely//Jan
1. Your bass (type of strings, pups/electronics e.t.c.).
2. Your amp/speaker cab.
3. The acoustics in the room that you are playing in.
The best thing to do is to adjust the input gain on your amp and then start out with a flat eq on your bass and on your amp. That is always a good start. Don´t forget to keep your tweeter volume on your speaker cab flat too (if there is one). Some of my bass-playing friends hate tweeters in speaker cabs so they either turn them all the way down if that is possible or even perform more drastic things if they have the knollage. Tweeter or no tweeter is all a matter of taste. Turn it off if you don´t want that hi end in your bass sound. Rather common thing. A flat setting should work fine most of the time and if that doesn´t sound good then you´ve most likely bought a amp that doesn´t sound the way you want it to sound. And the rest is really about adjusting the sound/eq to compensate for the acoustics in the room and to make small adjustments so it sound the way you like it. I often add a hint of bass on my Stingray´s eq and keep the rest flat. I like low frequencies. If you´ll be playing in a big open room with stone walls then you need to make some adjustments for that and if there are lots of fabrics and soft materials in the room you´ll get a different sound because of that. Acoustics is a science all by itself and it´s good to understand the basics. That will definately help anyone to achieve the sound one likes under different circumstances. But the basic idea is to always start out with a flat eq if you don´t know what you´re doing. Turn the tweeter off if you don´t like that hi end in your bass sound. If that doesn´t sound good in a decent/neutral room then you should look for another amp.
Some rooms/halls are just impossible to get a good bass sound in and that is just to accept. Try to make the best out of it. Not much else to do. And when doing gigs or rehearsing, listen to the sound guy and your band mates when it comes to stage volume and other things. They´ll hate you otherwise.
Sincerely//Jan
cellkirk74
Well-known member
I agree to the more midpronounced voicing of Markbass amps, especially the F1. We A/Bed it against the Epifani 902C, an iamp 500 and the Genz Benz shuttle 6.0, and they al had clearer highs and less mids / bass when set flat (maybe besides the Epi that just had better sounding highs but lacked nothing).
But this is only with the amp set flat. The Markbass stuff just sounds great with every Music Man I tried it with, and all the amps have knobs for tweaking the sound.
Back o.t.: I too think it has something to do with a horn or tweater that gets too much input. If you say you boost highs all the way on amp and bass it sure is too much for the majority of cabinets. Try to turn all tweaters off and see what it will do.
btw: does anybody else here boost their treble at full on his amp?
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Powman
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I hate to be picky...but is there any chance that we can use proper punctuation and capitalize words? I know kids don't bother anymore due to chat rooms and texting, but it would make posts easier to read.
Hellboy
Well-known member
btw: does anybody else here boost their treble at full on his amp?
No way. I´m a bass-player.
Flat flat flat all day long.//J
oli@bass
Well-known member
This is normal!
Do I read correctly: You push the 1.6k, 3.2k and 4k bands and complain about clicking noise?! Those are the bands that you push if you want more trebly smack in your sound. Especially the 4k band is where any finger noise can be heard very prominently.
I have a hard time to believe this: I A/B'd the F1 against my SWR GrandPrix/Stereo800 (which is said to be very flat or a little mid scooped) rig before buying, and there was no audible difference when switching between the two amps. More and more I get the impression that lots of bass amps are vocied with a rather strong mid scoop, which is a characteristic of the Ampeg tube heads. Lots of players seem to like it that way. Hence the popularity of the Trace Elliot mid shape switch. And many of the switches labeled "deep" or "ultra bass" actually don't add bass but cud mids. That's where the MB VPF comes into play: You can adjust the mid scoop to your taste.
+1
DaddyFlip
Well-known member
kevins- If a slight bump of the treble gives you the sound you want and removes the offensive click, then you're good to go; everything else is academic. My bass has two pickups and six knobs and I have an amp and compressor with knobs all over the place. When I started, I wanted everything to sound perfect with all the settings flat (and I got a clicking noise)! It wasn't until I experimented with everything that I began to enjoy bass playing and got it to sound like I wanted. Remember this; there is no right answer when it comes to getting the sound you want. It is 100% subjective and completely up to you. That's what all the knobs and buttons are for. The click that annoys you might be part of someone else's signature sound. Rock on, son and don't OD on OCD!
I keep all my trebles boosted full down all the time
Powman, sir; two things: 1) you GET IT; 2) you're too picky. I, too, appreciate a finely crafted post, but we live in the age of disposable everything, including communication. I believe the schools are still teaching sentence structure and punctuation, but there is no formal outlet that encourages or requires the use of it (text, chat, forum, twitter, etc.).
Have you ever read personal letters written during the Civil War era? It boggles my mind how formal and elegant the thought and penmanship was, but it's easy to understand why if you think about it. They only had paper and it was scarce. They wrote with a fountain pen (no backspace or delete); one had to get it right the first time, so one put much thought and effort into every word before it was put on paper. And this was no trouble because the writer truly cared and longed for his reader. Then there was the matter of the letter actually getting to its recipient. Communication was a dear and precious thing at one time; low quantity = high quality. Now, it's just the opposite; technological advance has increased the number of outlets, but has reduced the quality of the content. Sign of the times and here to stay.
btw: does anybody else here boost their treble at full on his amp?
I keep all my trebles boosted full down all the timePowman, sir; two things: 1) you GET IT
; 2) you're too picky. I, too, appreciate a finely crafted post, but we live in the age of disposable everything, including communication. I believe the schools are still teaching sentence structure and punctuation, but there is no formal outlet that encourages or requires the use of it (text, chat, forum, twitter, etc.).Have you ever read personal letters written during the Civil War era? It boggles my mind how formal and elegant the thought and penmanship was, but it's easy to understand why if you think about it. They only had paper and it was scarce. They wrote with a fountain pen (no backspace or delete); one had to get it right the first time, so one put much thought and effort into every word before it was put on paper. And this was no trouble because the writer truly cared and longed for his reader. Then there was the matter of the letter actually getting to its recipient. Communication was a dear and precious thing at one time; low quantity = high quality. Now, it's just the opposite; technological advance has increased the number of outlets, but has reduced the quality of the content. Sign of the times and here to stay.
drTStingray
Well-known member
Guys,
Last night I played a gig with my SR4 fretless and Ashdown rig - I got unwanted click BUT it was caused by having the tweeter in my 2x10 turned on full plus some lame technique (or over-excitement) on my part which involved hitting the strings too hard over the pick up so they touched the pole pieces.
Simple solution - turn down the treble on the bass and pay more attention to how I'm playing - worked for me didn't have time or space to start fiddling with the back of the rig middway through the set.
Just a thought anyway.
Part of the beauty of having a bass (and rig) with lots of sonic control is you can compensate for these things.
Last night I played a gig with my SR4 fretless and Ashdown rig - I got unwanted click BUT it was caused by having the tweeter in my 2x10 turned on full plus some lame technique (or over-excitement) on my part which involved hitting the strings too hard over the pick up so they touched the pole pieces.
Simple solution - turn down the treble on the bass and pay more attention to how I'm playing - worked for me
didn't have time or space to start fiddling with the back of the rig middway through the set.Just a thought anyway.
Part of the beauty of having a bass (and rig) with lots of sonic control is you can compensate for these things.
