EQ on '96 stingray

[3+5]

hi

i have a '96 stingray with 2band EQ.
now, since the pots don't have a center detent, does that mean that the EQ is boost only ?

i thought i read somewhere, that only the boost pot is boost only, the treble pot is cut/boost.

now, what should i believe ?

 

[oli@bass]

Judging from technical information found on this forum and elsewhere, it seems that the consensus is as you say: bass is boost only, treble is cut/boost, BUT the preamp is not "flat" anyway, meaning that the in fact, the bass is cut as well in the zero position of the pot.

Listen for yourself:

http://www.ernieball.com/forums/music-man-basses/42214-stingray-sound-examples.html

The question is: Does it really matter what the preamp technically does?

 

[3+5]

so, how do i know when the treble is "flat" ?

 

[Duarte]

You don't. It shouldn't matter. Just put it to where it sounds good.

 

[oli@bass]

About center of the dialing range. If you're really concerned about having some clue on stage, you can loosen knob's screw and turn it to position the screw looking at you when the pot is around center, then tighten the screw again.

Don't know whether you could understand what I mean... maybe some native English speaker could help out explaining the procedure...

 

[3+5]

thanks oli. i understand what you are talking about.

so, the treble is flat when the know is at 50% ?
or is it somewhere else, like 30% or something like that ?

i read somewhere that the bass know cuts, when it's at zero.
is that true ? or is it flat, when it's at zero ?


(of course i will set it by ear, i'm just curious how the preamp works. plus, i'd like to compare the 2EQ to my sterling, and i can't when i don't set the eq flat)

 

[oli@bass]

I don't know. But I made the examples posted above so that everybody can compare the different flavors of StingRays. Judging from what I hear, I'd say that both of your assumptions are correct: Treble flat at 50%, bass is cut at 0.

 

[3+5]

and how do i have to set the bass knob so that it's flat ?

 

[oli@bass]

To my ears, and comparing to the 3EQ SR, it's also at about 50%. On the 2EQ it seemst that the cut is just not as strong as with the 3EQ but "flat" is still around 50% of the range. You should be able to hear this in the examples posted above.

However, and this seems to be important, the question is whether there is any meaning to "flat". Comparing different EBMM preamps, I come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a flat response on those preamps. But I'm not a technician nor do I have the equimpent to measure or calibrate electronics. So I stick to what I hear. And adjust the knobs to what sounds good. Doing recordings helps. For example, I'd never have thought that on the 3EQ a bass/treble boost sounds almost identical to a mid cut with volume boost.

 

[Chuck B]

just my 2 €cts:

I'm playing Stingray since 1979. I never wondered if one of the sound pots was flat. Turn the bass knob full or nearly full and then put the treble knob where you think it's okay. It works!

 

[Rod Trussbroken]

hi

I have a '96 stingray with 2band EQ.
now, since the pots don't have a center detent, does that mean that the EQ is boost only ?

i thought i read somewhere, that only the boost pot is boost only, the treble pot is cut/boost.

now, what should i believe ?

This is what I think:

My interpretation of the patent (which I've read) is that the Treble (only) is meant to be cut and boost.

Back in those days an "RA" taper (still in use) was also used as an audio level control to balance speakers in a HiFi . It used a centre point for the level control (although no detent centre position). We're talking electronics dating back some 30-40 years!!!

I'm glad EB kept it

 

[3+5]

what is "RA" taper ?

flat EQ means for me, that the EQ doesn't cut or boost.
i know that the frequency response of the EQ is not flat. but like i said, that's not what i meant. i was talking about the knobs being set to not affect the signal (exept for the affect of the circuit itself)

 

[Chuck B]

i'm glad eb kept it

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