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Roswell

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Before I buy these, how do you attach them? Do you remove the old strap things and put these in their place or....
 

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You need a flame thrower a chop saw and apound of C-4.
Stand 38 paces back and let your imagination run wild.
Or just use a screwdriver to remove the Old "strap buttons" and replace them with the new "buttons" and screws.
Just like any other strap lock.......and no the Dee Mar Zee Oh clip locks are not the same but you still have to remove the old strap buttons.
 

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Before I buy these, how do you attach them? Do you remove the old strap things and put these in their place or....

Yup. Super simple, and you won't regret buying them. I've had mine on for a little more than a week, and I love them. I jerked on the strap pretty good before I trusted them based on some problems I had with the previous non EB strap locks I had on there. They're not going anywhere. The nice solid snap when you click them in is reassuring to me as well.
 

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From what I hear from EB. they attach to the strap like a straplok style while using the stock strap button to click onto. My prob is... When your spinning a bass around your neck how do you keep the straploks from tearing out of your strap? Need help..just bought MM Stingray 5 and do not want to send 'er flying?
 

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From what I hear from EB. they attach to the strap like a straplok style while using the stock strap button to click onto. My prob is... When your spinning a bass around your neck how do you keep the straploks from tearing out of your strap? Need help..just bought MM Stingray 5 and do not want to send 'er flying?

I would personally not do that to an instrument of that value :p

I need to try these, I've had some cheap ones that have surprisingly hold up pretty well for the past years. I need some new straps as well. :eek:
 
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PeteDuBaldo

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From what I hear from EB. they attach to the strap like a straplok style while using the stock strap button to click onto. My prob is... When your spinning a bass around your neck how do you keep the straploks from tearing out of your strap? Need help..just bought MM Stingray 5 and do not want to send 'er flying?

Slight clarification here - the EB strap locks attach using the same diameter screw, but the button included with the strap locks is different from the stock button. You need to use the new button to make the EB strap locks work.
 

DrGonzo5150

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Received and installed my straplocks last night...
While i'm still not likely to get my Yngwie or Janick on too hard haha... They have a superb design and function and in comparison with the other brand i've used, i would recommended them highly...
 

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Still loving mine. I'm getting ready to order a set for my latest acquisition. (Not my next EBMM, alas, which will be a little while longer in coming, but a "one that got away" guitar.) I'm not crazy enough to start swinging my guitar around with them, but I'm becoming a convert from the brand I used to prefer.
 

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I looked at the pictures of the design. They look very similar to the Dunlop style strap locks. The main thing I can see that's different to the Dunlop's is that they release by squeezing the two Black thingies together rather than by pushing a button. Can anyone explain how are they different/better than the Dunlop strap locks?

I've been waiting for these for a long time and I was hoping I'd be able to fit them over the existing strap buttons on my Bongo since I thought that was supposed to be one of the main design features of these strap locks but I see that's not the case.

Don't mean to be rude or disrespectful....I assume they are better than the other types that are available (Dunlop, Schaller) but it's not apparent to me how they differ significantly from the Dunlops based on the pictures so an explanation would help.

Thanks.
 

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I looked at the pictures of the design. They look very similar to the Dunlop style strap locks. The main thing I can see that's different to the Dunlop's is that they release by squeezing the two Black thingies together rather than by pushing a button. Can anyone explain how are they different/better than the Dunlop strap locks?

I've been waiting for these for a long time and I was hoping I'd be able to fit them over the existing strap buttons on my Bongo since I thought that was supposed to be one of the main design features of these strap locks but I see that's not the case.

Don't mean to be rude or disrespectful....I assume they are better than the other types that are available (Dunlop, Schaller) but it's not apparent to me how they differ significantly from the Dunlops based on the pictures so an explanation would help.

Thanks.


Hey Stu...

Can only comment on my experiences and i'm sure others will be able to elaborate further & provide more accurate product information... But...As far as comparisons go..

In my experience..

The S*****r system: the locking system does no allow the guitar to pivot freely on the buttons. This can cause the screws and buttons to work loose. If not noticed/retightened, as the screw loosens, weight is not distributed evenly, the worst case scenario being you can bend or even snap the screw in the body.

For me the biggest positive in the Ernie Ball vs D***** is the locking pins.

The EB locks don't release until both buttons are completely depressed. One can be completely pushed in and the other partially and it doesn't budge. If that one little spring goes on the D***** your axe could be cactus... so for me, that second button is piece of mind.

While under weight and hanging by the strap, you would need quite a knack to disconnect the EB locks and with it's design I can't envisage a situation causing accidental release.

Being 100% straight up, the locking mech just seems more secure on the EBs...
they pivote freely, with no 'play' in the mech and that's enough for me... But the other positive is (unlike other brands) the EBs fit Musicman instruments without any mods at all... using the same diameter screw with no extra drilling for depth or anything required.

I'm sure the other boys can provide more acurate details re weight ratings and stuff if required... Hope it helps..

Cheers
 

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very informative Scott, I've sold all of my stock but have more coming this month. Can't wait to put them on my own guitars
 

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Yep, the EB locks are very cool.

I get them now instead of the Dunlops.

The ONLY thing I prefer about the Dunlops are the Circlips for attaching the lock to the strap. (The EB's use a threaded nut & washer), but that's it - everything else is much nicer on the EB locks.

The most important thing is security.
I've tried to get the EB locks to release, just to see - no can do.

I've had close calls with the Dunlops on a few occassions.

Lucky I have the the reflexes of a cat. :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes:
 

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The S*****r system: the locking system does no allow the guitar to pivot freely on the buttons. This can cause the screws and buttons to work loose. If not noticed/retightened, as the screw loosens, weight is not distributed evenly, the worst case scenario being you can bend or even snap the screw in the body.

If you mean Schallers (it's ok, spelling the name doesn't ban you from this forum), they swivel freely, and I've never had a screw come loose - on the guitar, that is :D.

Next time I need locks I plan to try the EB's, but since I have no complaints with the existing Schallers, I'll continue on with them. The squeakiness and rattle bugged me a little, but since applying a very thin coat of vasoline inside the channel, years ago, they've been rattle and squeak free.

I know it's a small thing, but the big EB trademark on the locks puts me off just a bit. I think they'd look classier, and would be more widely appealing, if they were trademarked modestly elsewhere.

On the C-clip vs threaded attachment, I'll go with the threaded, with a drop of green loc-tite. I believe it's more secure. I've never felt that secure with Dunlops, the C-clip being part of the reason.
 

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I've got Schallers on one of my other guitars and like them. I'm very comfortable with the design and the bracket that fits around the screw makes me feel more secure, but I have indeed had a lot of screw problems on that guitar. I've had to repair them at least three or four times over the years. Granted, it's a cheap guitar and it could just be a construction issue with that guitar.

I'll never own a pair of Dunlops again. I know a lot of people who like them, but I bought them for my Axis when I got it and within a couple of weeks, it almost hit the floor twice. I took them off and put the regular buttons back on.

I agree with what others have said, that the EB strap locks just feel more secure to me. There's no way that you're going to accidentally unlock them, and they have a nice solid snap going in. I've tested them over and over, mainly because I didn't want a repeat of what happened with the Dunlops, and they're solid.
 
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