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agquake

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This probably won't fall in favor, but I say more power to him. How does this really affect anyone other than him and those who wish to purchase his wares?
 

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Peavey supposedly hasn't been told anything by Eddie right? Some people here have stated that his contract with Peavey expires in October. That being the case, the Charvel project certianly gives Eddie a little bit of negotiating power, doesn't it?

I mean, Van Halen hasn't exactly been burning up the airwaves for the last 6 years, and Peavey dealers have been sitting on a lot of Wolfgangs in that time. When Eddie went in to re-negotiate his contract in October, they could easily point to these facts for negotiating leverage.

It sure is convenient for Eddie that this Best of Both Worlds collection, and a tour with Sammy happened to coincide with this side venture with Charvel. Now he can walk in to Peavey and say, "Fine, you won't give me what I want, I've got someone already working on something, so I'm going to leave and take my three initials with me."

As far as the D-Tuna not being on this "Custom Shop" Charvel, well, doesn't it make sense. He makes money off of every D-Tuna he sells, doesn't he? You know everyone with a striped Charvel is going to want a D-Tuna.

It all falls into place once you start to follow the money.


I was talking about the "production run" not the "custom shop" . No doubt the custom shop ones will, but the regular production model didn't have them. I suspect they might be quite affordable, speculating on japanese or korean production....in that case, sign me up for a black and white one. ;)
 

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OrangeChannel said:
I was talking about the "production run" not the "custom shop" . No doubt the custom shop ones will, but the regular production model didn't have them. I suspect they might be quite affordable, speculating on japanese or korean production....in that case, sign me up for a black and white one. ;)


I was under the impression that the production ones were all going to be coming out of the facility in Corona California, and that the "Relic" paint jobs were just another line with a higher price tag. Regardless, I was referring to the production model, which I thought were coming out of the Custom Shop.

From my understanding of what I've read so far, the production models will list for about 3000 bucks, so I believe they are not going to be overseas production, although that may come later.

Here is the link:

http://www.charvel.com/models/evh/press_release.html
 
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Hey guys, I just got back from the NAMM show in Nashville, and indeed it's true that Ed is going to bail on PV according to one of the Charvel reps. I'll try to post some pics of the EVH display showing the new Charvel models. Not many pro players stay with one brand forever. There's too much money out there to make off of it.
 

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I saw the link awhile back (like a day? hahaha). Corona CA is Fender's plant. So they might be way less than your anticipation, I am guessing heyre gonna do a foreign run of those tho'. Great way to boost Charvel sales. As for an all orignal piece, I'd expect that by Winter NAMM maybe Summer at the latest. Headstock designs gone in for approval from what I hear.
 

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Here's some info on the new production line EVH Charvels that I got from a friend of mine that went to NAMM. Flores in Peoria was going to be the third and last dealer for these instruments in the state of Illinois until they declined to carry the line.

The deal is, in order to carry these guitars, you have to get 6 of the EVH Charvels, two of each color scheme, and a number of other models of the Charvel line. The guitars are made in Corona, California and will carry a retail price tag of $3300. There is no word on any cheaper overseas production line at this time.
 

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I wonder why they went the Charvel label instead of the Fender label. The Eddie Van Halen Super-Strat by the legendary Fender sounds like a marketing dream.
 

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Hookpunch said:
I wonder why they went the Charvel label instead of the Fender label. The Eddie Van Halen Super-Strat by the legendary Fender sounds like a marketing dream.
Does it matter? Dude gets paid either way, which is how he likes it.
 

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Yeah but there are guys that will buy anything that says Fender on it - so they might move a few more with both Eddie's name and the Fender label.

Of course it also means his guitar is out there with the Clapton, Sambora, Beck and Yngwie models. This way he has a whole label for himself.
 

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Hookpunch said:
Yeah but there are guys that will buy anything that says Fender on it - so they might move a few more with both Eddie's name and the Fender label.

Of course it also means his guitar is out there with the Clapton, Sambora, Beck and Yngwie models. This way he has a whole label for himself.
No he doesn't....he shares with Sambora, Beck, Yngwie, SRV, and Clapton bwahahaha. Hence the Charvel. What a way to relaunch a line. I'll give them that. They WILL be doing an all original siggy in the very near future. Mehtinks the Art series was the way to break the ice and tide people over.
 

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OrangeChannel said:
I just got the inside track on something in the works over there that currently has 12 different headstock shapes that were submitted for approval to the man himself. I'm guessing there's gonna be something new for NAMM 2005.
For Peavey or Charvel?

Also, the latest Musicians Friend was giving away a pedal w/ the purchase of a Wolfgang guitar---------might be one way to get rid of over stock???
 

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He is on his merry way from Peavey it seems. The url www.peavey.com/wcs (this was the Wolfgang custom shop url) now just re-directs you to the Wolfgang guitar page.

So it seems the Custom shop is no more! How long before they remove the rest of the Wolfgang information?
 

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With all due respect Tim, changing a web page is hardly conclusive proof of anything. You may ultimately be right. But I think drawing conclusions based on whats on the web page is a little premature.

We can all guess all we want. Honestly, whatever happens will not be a surprise to me. I can think of several scenarios that don't make sense and a couple that do. It wouldn't shock me if none of them came true and he did something else all together.

One thing that has me curious. Everybody is stating that is contract with PV is up in October. Where was this info obtained? I've heard it only from people who frankly aren't qualified to be a reliable source. (No offense to the good folks here who have been saing it but you know what I mean.) I'm not disputing the statement. I'm just wondering how reliable that info is.

If I'm going to speculate I want to speculate on known facts. Otherwise I'll just use my common sense. It's just as reliable.... :cool:
 

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Hbucker you have a point - this is all pretty trivial at the end of the day. About the only good thing about it is that if you are thinking of buying a Wolfgang you have a heads up - it may not be available with the EVH signature anymore - it will likely be somewhat like the Axis - modified to make it less idiosyncratic to Ed's tastes.

For those who demand to have and EVH signature guitar - it looks like they will also still be able to buy one.
 

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Tim O'Sullivan said:
He is on his merry way from Peavey it seems. The url www.peavey.com/wcs (this was the Wolfgang custom shop url) now just re-directs you to the Wolfgang guitar page.

So it seems the Custom shop is no more! How long before they remove the rest of the Wolfgang information?

I noticed the other day that there was a whole pile of custom shop Wolfs for sale directly from the Peavey site, which I thought was kinda odd...aside from the myriad of expected one-off custom paint jobs, there were also a few oddities like a koa-bodied stoptail and a Lucite-bodied one a la Satch's Crystal Planet model a few years back.

If they've indeed shut down their custom shop, it doesn't surprise me...unless you're an operation the size of Fender with a solid stable of artisans offering truly unique items with a supporting base of limited availaility but still almost-accessible models, the concept seems like a loss-leader. The prices they were charging for those custom Wolfs on the Peavey site (plenty over $3k) served to reinforce my theory - gotta recoup costs somehow.

Assuming this is true, it makes perfect sense that EBMM doesn't have a custom shop available for customers. I've seen tons of CS Fenders that sit and gather dust in stores in the NYC metro - the Sam Ash across the street from me has a couple of Strats that have been there for 2-3 years, the one near my office in the 'burbs has had a Danny Gatton Tele for at least as long too - and I know the retailers are hating the day they'll have to sell them at a loss to get rid of them. Anyone remember the Ibanez Custom Shop from the late 80s/early 90s?
 

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wolfgangguitars.com

On the wolfgangguitars site it is reported that the whole striped theme was brought to EVH by Peavey and he took it to Charvel. I know that the webmaster of that site has close ties to Peavey and although it is best to be skeptical until something is officially announced, I doubt he would post something he was'nt sure of. I saw some pics of the 5150 color scheme 5150 2 half stacks from summer namm. They looked sweet but who know where that will go if EVH leaves. James Brown (5150, JSX etc.) is at Kustom now so maybe(?) evh will do something there with an amp line.
 

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I don't think a line of striped Wolfgangs would go over big because they aren't the same body style as the original. EBMM striped one for Ed and although it looked pretty good, I don't think that would have gone over big either.
 

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First, can Ernie Ball be happy about this?...

http://www.peavey.com/news/snamm04_generation_usa_custom.cfm

Second, I've been noticing these. When I first saw them I didn't know anything about this Charvel stuff and I commented to my friend that they looked like Wolfies with the top horn cut out. I now have a feeling this is the future of what we now know as the Wolfgang. I can't help but think they will add Floyds to them if wanted and chug along with that...

http://www.peavey.com/news/snamm04_hpsignature.cfm
 
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