Floyd-o-fobia

[Mark-NL]

Yes,

I am afraid of Floyd Rose trems...

I have never played a guitar with one, and they (from what I read around the interweb) are a bijats to setup, change strings with etc etc.

So, just stay clear from Floyd geetars, right.. Hmm yeah..but ...

Was browsing online and saw a used Morse Standard (with Floyd). It had a ridiculous bid of € 200,00 next to it, and I thought, what the heck, I'll put in a higher (but still low) bid, so the next bidder has to bid at least a somewhat reasonable amount, and the owner get some decent cash out of it. But, to my surpise, I get an email from the owner that if I pay € 50,00 over my bid, the guitar is mine.....

I wasn't really planning on getting another guitar any time soon, as I've just (2 weeks ago) bought a Silo Spec, but I have the cash (sold some other gear), and a Morse was on my shortlist for possible next Ball anyway (I was planning on the hardtail though).

I don't use Trems all that much, and certainly not dive-bombs. I could just lock the trem I guess...

So basically my question: Any treatments for Floyd-o-Fobia out there?

(Bonus question: It comes with "original gigbag"...so I think this is an older model? When did EBMM start shipping with hardcases?)

 

[fbecir]

Hello

Personally, I don't like Floyd Rose tremolo (my first real guitar was an ESP with a Floyd Rose that I bought new in 1987). I prefer a hardtail or a simpler tremolo like the Music Man tremolo.
But if the price is good, you can always block the tremolo (with a piece of wood in the cavity for instance).
For the gig bag, I don't know but when I bought my Morse (in 2001) it was delivered with a hard case.

 

[Spudmurphy]

No info on Floyds from me - but are you saying that it's going for around 300 euros? ... if so you just gotta get it at that price!!

 

[Mark-NL]

No a bit higher than 300. At 300 it would be a nobrainer.

No the € 200,00 was what some moron had bid before me. I thought one could not discuss prices, that's why I did not mention my exact bid...... I'd have to pay € 750,00..which is still a good deal I think.

 

[Jonny Dubai]

I have not had a floyd in a while, but i have to admit they can be great fun! Its just like any new piece of gear, you have to learn how to use it!. There are some new products out that help the stability of the trem if you break a string ect. or even block it. is the trem flush to the body or floating. if flush to the body then its similar to a vintage trem but with more bits!

Cheers,

J

 

[Mark-NL]

is the trem flush to the body or floating. if flush to the body then its similar to a vintage trem but with more bits!

Cheers,

J

No clue, it just has one picture and a short description. Good point about the learning curve though.
On the other hand: more bits = more to (possibly) go wrong

 

[Spudmurphy]

Yeah absolutely, 300 is a nobrainer totally agree. If it's not going to 100% float your boat - I think I'd pass on it at the price quoted.

(My understanding is that we're ok on the forum to discuss second hand prices - just not the brand new price out of the shops.)

Anyways, let us all know if you get it?

 

[Mark-NL]

 

[Jonny Dubai]

its hard to tell from the photo if its a shadow or recessed. i think its flush but a Morse man will be more able to help.

J

 

[Tollywood]

Hello, Don't be afraid of the Floyd Rose. I would not play a guitar without one, or at least not fully enjoy playing it. The fine tuners are wonderful and worth the effort of string changes. You get used to changing the strings and it becomes second nature. It's really not that much of a pain.
And, you really need one for stunt guitar playing, ala, Eddie, Vai, Satch.

 

[metalmarty]

Never had any problems with a Floyd, Mark. You just need to get comfortable working with them. It's just like everything else in life: practice. Invest a little bit of time. It's really not that hard. There must have been sold, what, tens and tens of thousand floyded guitars the last 30 years. If you needed a Ph.D. to work one it wouldn't have lasted. Chances are it's a flush mount too, makes it much easier. If it's recessed, install a tremolno if you have to. No biggie. If I had 750 to spend at the moment I'ld be in my car right now to pick it up. That's a STEAL.

 

[Tollywood]

Can someone please tell me why my post doesn't have a picture next to my name, like everyone else...thanks alot.

 

[metalmarty]

Can someone please tell me why my post doesn't have a picture next to my name, like everyone else...thanks alot.

It's the mark of membership to a very special, influentious, secret organisation with a secret handshake. Either that, or you probably haven't uploaded an avatar

 

[DrKev]

There are little tricks to dealing with a Floyd that make life much easier, simply blocking it so it can't move during a string change makes things go very smooth indeed. And once it's set to your liking the first time, it's all pretty straight forward after that if you go one string at a a time of the same brand and gauge. Personally, I don't like Floyds much and I love that MM came up with a great trem system that really avoids the need.

Mark - be VERY careful with prices that are too good to be true. That the owner emails you to outbid somebody? I'd be VERY suspicious.

 

[bbake1]

Tollie check your PMs.

 

[Mark-NL]

@MetalMarty (ergens anders ook al gevraagd Ken of ben jij "Aaron Stonebeat" ?

 

[DrKev]

Can someone please tell me why my post doesn't have a picture next to my name, like everyone else...thanks alot.

At the very top right of the page, go to the "settings" link, then got to "Edit Avatar" on the left hand menu.

 

[metalmarty]

BTW Mark, if you live close to Enschede/Oldenzaal you're more then welcome to check out my Silo for a feel of the MM Floyd if Castricum means too long a drive for a try.

 

[metalmarty]

@MetalMarty (ergens anders ook al gevraagd Ken of ben jij "Aaron Stonebeat" ?

Nope, I only know the name from the Gitaarnet forum, no idea who he is

 

[guitfiddle]

Don't be scared of a Floyd. Especially considering that you haven't owned one, I think you owe it to yourself to try one. That's the way I approach things anyway. I've learned to fly, scuba dive, motocross race etc. all because every time I see something I haven't tried I want to try it. Same way with guitars. I don't have any trouble with a Floyd. If you are at all mechanically inclined you'll see how it all works. I can change strings just as quickly on a Floyd now as a vintage style, and Tollie is correct the fine tuners alone are worth it especially if you use a good strobe tuner.