bovinehost
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Recutting a nut blank might be the solution....but if you just got the bass (I can't keep up around here), I'd give it a few weeks of heavy play and see if the issue doesn't magically disappear.
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Rayan
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StraightLines
Yes to the slipping thing, and
Yes to appreciating a narrow neck
( compared to some other brands of 5 ), and
Yes to the technique adjustment thing
Not wanting to risk "fixing what ain't broke",
I consider it my little challenge to 'press the string to the fret',
rather than 'pull it off the side of the neck'
- almost like learning by the 'discipline of a topnotch mistress'
- knowing she will 'correct me' when I get a bit 'out of line'
Also, I'm a bit reluctant to mess with the lateral angle (linearity?) of the string between the saddle and the tuning peg, as defined by the groove in the nut
- I'm of the understanding, that ideally, the string should pass 'straight' through the groove (over the nut)
- I'm trusting that EBMM has carefully measured everything and 'Quality Checked' at every stage of 'production'
Having said all this, production tolerances being what they are, and Mother Nature being who She Is, I can also accept that even the dimensions of an SR5 may vary a molecule here, and a molecule there
- and it's my mission (duty?) to bridge whatever minor gaps between the infinitely large and infinitely small that may reveal themselves to me in my pursuit of the purest (purist?) bass tones
whew
/R
Yes to the slipping thing, and
Yes to appreciating a narrow neck
( compared to some other brands of 5 ), and
Yes to the technique adjustment thing
Not wanting to risk "fixing what ain't broke",
I consider it my little challenge to 'press the string to the fret',
rather than 'pull it off the side of the neck'
- almost like learning by the 'discipline of a topnotch mistress'
- knowing she will 'correct me' when I get a bit 'out of line'
Also, I'm a bit reluctant to mess with the lateral angle (linearity?) of the string between the saddle and the tuning peg, as defined by the groove in the nut
- I'm of the understanding, that ideally, the string should pass 'straight' through the groove (over the nut)
- I'm trusting that EBMM has carefully measured everything and 'Quality Checked' at every stage of 'production'
Having said all this, production tolerances being what they are, and Mother Nature being who She Is, I can also accept that even the dimensions of an SR5 may vary a molecule here, and a molecule there
- and it's my mission (duty?) to bridge whatever minor gaps between the infinitely large and infinitely small that may reveal themselves to me in my pursuit of the purest (purist?) bass tones
whew
/R
The nuts are cut on a machine, and from the pic it looks normal to me. I would not replace the nut.
Will you take a pic of the fret angle and post it? If the angle is too much it would cause the string to slip off the edge
Will you take a pic of the fret angle and post it? If the angle is too much it would cause the string to slip off the edge
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That looks like the nut on my SR5. However from what I can see about it from the pics it does look like there is more angle on the frets on yours than what there is on mine. So like Jon said get him a good pic of the fret angle and have no fear EB will look at any issue you may have with your EB bass.
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Rayan
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AngleOfApproach / Babies & Bathwater
Hey Remo - tnx for this interesting thread - it's helped me to understand a bit more about my own SR5 'stringslippingthing'; and about other people's point-of-view (sufferings ?)
Funny in a way - how a 'bottle' can be made to look 'half full' or half empty'
- in this case, how playing a fine instrument can be a 'pleasure' or a "problem"
- or in certain ("quite a few" = implied oxymoron) cases, how some players comingled the technical characteristics of the instrument with their individual playing techniques and arrived at the conclusion that 'something external to them' was the cause of their "problem"
It all reminds me of something I encountered in another realm
- how automotive transmission synchro rings of different designs, each with their own peculiarities, for their own reasons, are often compared to each other in ways that may become 'out of context' with each other
- leading to a hasty, oversimplified, and misleading conclusion by some users that a BMW is inferior to a Porsche because it 'doesn't shift as fast'
I like to drive BMWs and Porsches, partly because they give me different driving experiences, and call for different techniques on my part - similarly, I lke to play my SR5 as well as other fine instruments
/R
remo said:I must say I'm dissapointed this problem is so documented yet EB have not offered a solution to people who suffer from it. I also posted about it on another Bass forum and quite a few people ended up selling their SR's because they just couldn't play them... thats really bad.
Hey Remo - tnx for this interesting thread - it's helped me to understand a bit more about my own SR5 'stringslippingthing'; and about other people's point-of-view (sufferings ?)
Funny in a way - how a 'bottle' can be made to look 'half full' or half empty'
- in this case, how playing a fine instrument can be a 'pleasure' or a "problem"
- or in certain ("quite a few" = implied oxymoron) cases, how some players comingled the technical characteristics of the instrument with their individual playing techniques and arrived at the conclusion that 'something external to them' was the cause of their "problem"
It all reminds me of something I encountered in another realm
- how automotive transmission synchro rings of different designs, each with their own peculiarities, for their own reasons, are often compared to each other in ways that may become 'out of context' with each other
- leading to a hasty, oversimplified, and misleading conclusion by some users that a BMW is inferior to a Porsche because it 'doesn't shift as fast'
I like to drive BMWs and Porsches, partly because they give me different driving experiences, and call for different techniques on my part - similarly, I lke to play my SR5 as well as other fine instruments
/R
Mobay45
Well-known member
Sorry that I mentioned technique right off the bat, but that's how I handled the situation with mine. I had played a P bass for several years and had never had that problem. Being a musician of several years and knowing that picking up a different instrument than the one you usually play means having to adjust your technique, whether it be in your hands or how you position the horn to your lips, I just naturally adjusted to the bass rather than adjusting the bass to me. That's just the way I handle those situations and I wasn't trying to cast stones at anyone.
*update*
I got the bass back today after having a new nut cut for it. (the new nut was a blank SR5 nut from Ernie Ball, not an after market one). Big thanks to Grasshopper from www.basscentral.com for sending me the nut ASAP for free (and a couple of packs of EB strings for my inconvenience, bass central rocks!)
In short I'm very happy with the result. The guy did a great job. He put it exactly where it SHOULD be...
FYI for any Melbourne TBers I got it done at "Real Guitars" in High St Glen Iris.
The G is FAR more playable and I can do a "pulloff" on the G which was nigh on impossible with the old nut. Have a look at the photos the G is a much more respectable distance from the edge now but still far enough from the D not to effect playability in any way. If you are having any probs with your SR "G" get it fixed... and you'll be like
I got the bass back today after having a new nut cut for it. (the new nut was a blank SR5 nut from Ernie Ball, not an after market one). Big thanks to Grasshopper from www.basscentral.com for sending me the nut ASAP for free (and a couple of packs of EB strings for my inconvenience, bass central rocks!)
In short I'm very happy with the result. The guy did a great job. He put it exactly where it SHOULD be...
FYI for any Melbourne TBers I got it done at "Real Guitars" in High St Glen Iris.
The G is FAR more playable and I can do a "pulloff" on the G which was nigh on impossible with the old nut. Have a look at the photos the G is a much more respectable distance from the edge now but still far enough from the D not to effect playability in any way. If you are having any probs with your SR "G" get it fixed... and you'll be like
skabassist13
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If you look very closely you can see a difference. Well I can anyway. It does seem the G has moved away from the edge of the board some, but now youve got two strings that have horizontal break angles. Look at the G and the A, they clearly are not going in a strait line across the nut. Wether or not that is an issue I dont know, but its something to think about.
phatduckk
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jongitarz said:To me it looks like the G string is too far in, but what do I know
who died and made u the resident expert
Psychicpet
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the G on MM basses is great, keeps you honest and makes sure your left (or Right for our 'leftorium' brethren) hand isn't getting lazy.
but that's just my 2-bits..........
but that's just my 2-bits..........
Bassplyr
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Psychicpet said:
What fun is there in being honest?
bassmonkeee
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Psychicpet said:the G on MM basses is great, keeps you honest and makes sure your left (or Right for our 'leftorium' brethren) hand isn't getting lazy.
but that's just my 2-bits..........
So, is it just me, or is the G string on Musicman basses no different than any of the other 100s of basses I've played in my life.
I mean, it's got to be me, right?
Bassplyr
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I noticed that the G string does require a lighter touch than some of the others I've played.
I noticed that right off the bat. It doesn't make it a bad bass, just something one would have to get used to, like a different shaped neck or the placement of a pickup.
I think the more time you spend with anything, the better it gets. But, if you are going to spend that much on a bass, you best make it work for you the best it can. My 2 cents.
I noticed that right off the bat. It doesn't make it a bad bass, just something one would have to get used to, like a different shaped neck or the placement of a pickup.
I think the more time you spend with anything, the better it gets. But, if you are going to spend that much on a bass, you best make it work for you the best it can. My 2 cents.
bovinehost
Administrator
Dat's what I'm saying. Re-cutting a nut for you is like stringing a Bongo with flats for me.
"Because I WANT to, that's why."
Go forth and play well, sir.
"Because I WANT to, that's why."
Go forth and play well, sir.
AnthonyD
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Flats on a bongo......
with frets, no less!
with frets, no less!
