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Raz
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Is it USA made? Wasn't there a discussion about this on another thread?
brentrocks
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it is a real EVH....no sig on the headstock because of eddies departure form EB, you can tell by the toggle placement!!
what a deal!!!!
what a deal!!!!
SteveLINY
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Yes it's the real deal.....
Bid Bid Bid
Steve
brentrocks
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i wonder if you can get the eddie sig ruboffs anywhere???
turn it into an EVH..it is one already anyway!!!
turn it into an EVH..it is one already anyway!!!
ernie1966
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SteveLINY said:
Yes it's the real deal.....
Bid Bid Bid
Steve
Steve,
That's your axe? Why did you start the bidding so low? Also, I think your description is stopping people from bidding. You state:
"Ernie Ball will not verify that it is an Eddie Van Halen model because it was made at the time when EVH switched over to Peavey guitars, and they are not legally allowed to say it is an EVH guitar."
I think saying "Ernie Ball will not verify" will lead people to believe there is something fishy about the guitar. I would pull the auction, reword your description and put it up for auction around March or later, when people are getting their tax refunds, not right after Christmas, when people are tapped out.
Oh, and put a decent reserve on the bidding, so you do give it away.
Raz
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This is what I was nervous about...no offense!
SteveLINY
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ernie1966 said:
I'm just honest. I asked at EB, and that's what they told me.
I am a very experienced artist, and I could easily put a sig on the headstock, but...
There is currently 49 people watching the auction.
If it doesn't go over $1100, I'll pull the auction.
I'm just using the money to finance a new Suhr guitar, but I don't need to sell it.
Steve
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Raz said:
This one is made in the USA
It has the made in cali USA on the headstock....
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ernie1966
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SteveLINY said:
I know you're being honest, and I wouldn't advise altering the guitar. You should just re-word your description to re-assure potential bidders. I would
alo incluse a pic of the back of the headstock to confirm to bidders it is an EBMM made in San Luis Obispo.
Raz
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You can pull auctions, gee I didn't know that. Is there a penalty?
SteveLINY
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Here's a pic of the back of the headstock...
Yeah, I'd be curious to know the answer to that myself.
I can tell you if I was high bidder on a "no reserve" auction, and it suddenly got "pulled" ... I'd be pretty PO'd.
Dude, you seriously shoulda put a reserve on it.
SteveLINY
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That is why I put,
"I reserve the right to end this auction at any time without notice" in all my Ebay auctions.
There is no penalty for it at all.
"I reserve the right to end this auction at any time without notice" in all my Ebay auctions.
There is no penalty for it at all.
Raz
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Nice birdseye, anyhoo!
dwf1004
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Steve, pull the auction, set a reserve of $1000, as you mentioned that you wanted for it in a previous thread(s), and change the lawsuit aspect. Not trying to bust your chops here, bro, and I want you to fully understand that I am SO not implying anything here, but the simple fact is this:
If I saw in an eBay description that the company that produced a/any product has, in essence, washed their hands clean of it, and are not opening their mouth, so to speak, about anything related to it, I would run from the auction and take my money elsewhere, just as I would in the instance of merchandise listed as being sold in Singapore/Malaysia, etc. (a common "hangout" for scams, etc.)
Now again, no implications, as I mentioned before, so do NOT under any circumstances think that I am comparing you to them, because I am not. I'm just saying that the way that your description is worded can have some negative connotations as other instances could. You should relist that guitar with an updated description, with something on the lines of:
"This guitar's headstock was not screened with an EVH signature, as it was produced after Eddie Van Halen ended his partnership with Ernie Ball/Music Man and began his new partnership with Peavey to produce his amps AND guitar. However, EBMM still produced these guitars to the exact same specifications as the EVH signature, and continued to do so until the (currently named) Axis came to be, with the modifications from the original design.
In essence, this is the exact same guitar as a typical EVH, with the only difference being the lack of a EVH signature on the headstock. You can confirm that this took place by discussing this with moderators, forumites, and/or EBMM staff at their online forums -- http://www.ernieball.com/forums ."
You want to use that verbatim? Be my guest...I seek no royalties...just 10%.
To me, that just sounds so much better, and it takes any and all negative implications out of the mix. Truth be told, people that know this guitar don't even NEED to know this, as they already should. However, for those out there that look at your auction, and as they scratch their head, or pick their nose and wonder "hey how come that doesn't have..." this informs them, and makes them more confident in their selection, etc.
As far as pulling the auction, list it as "ended because the item is no longer available", then relist it later this week; if you catch any flak, you can use both the card that it was relisted due to a deadbeat bidder (you don't have to mention names), as well as the card that you reserved the right to end it because, say for example, you had an uncomfortable twitch in your a** about it, and that's that...you ended it.
Then, you go from there...if anyone else gives you sh*t, send them to me, and I'll do the dirty work from there.
SIDE NOTE: If you follow through, here's a great tip...set the auction to end early in the evening, i.e. 8PM PST, as well as DO NOT set it up to end on the weekend. I read some educational study a few years back (yes, the U.S. tax dollars at work, folks!) that researched eBay selling patterns, etc. -- items in auctions that end on a weekend day sell for 20-35% less than what it would go through during the week.
Think about it; where do a lot of people get on to the Internet? Work...does everyone work on the weekend? No. What do we do during the week? Very little, we veg in front of the TV, play our guitars, or...you guessed it. We sit in front of the computer. Is everyone sitting at home on the weekend? Absolutely not...also, the timeframe covers the area where people on the East Coast are getting ready to call it a night, and just want to check those auctions one last time. People on the West Coast have had dinner, the kids are in bed, and they're ready to roll for a couple of hours, etc.
That's the general logistics of the study, but you can see why it makes sense; when I eBay, I search out specifically weekend-ending auctions, esp. early morning weekend auctions, so that I can win while your drunk asses sleep. I have seen it in action, and I've been involved in a few myself, so I can tell you that this theory and research definitely holds water. (my 5150 1/2 stack, Jan 2002, ended early Sun morning...1 bid, me, $800, OWNED!)
I'll be selling that water later on this week, if you'd like to partake of the auction.
Steve, overall, not trying to tell you what to do, brother...we're just breaking us off a Bill O' Reilly, and we're "looking out for you".
Best of luck to you in your decision, and your overall sale of the item.
If I saw in an eBay description that the company that produced a/any product has, in essence, washed their hands clean of it, and are not opening their mouth, so to speak, about anything related to it, I would run from the auction and take my money elsewhere, just as I would in the instance of merchandise listed as being sold in Singapore/Malaysia, etc. (a common "hangout" for scams, etc.)
Now again, no implications, as I mentioned before, so do NOT under any circumstances think that I am comparing you to them, because I am not. I'm just saying that the way that your description is worded can have some negative connotations as other instances could. You should relist that guitar with an updated description, with something on the lines of:
"This guitar's headstock was not screened with an EVH signature, as it was produced after Eddie Van Halen ended his partnership with Ernie Ball/Music Man and began his new partnership with Peavey to produce his amps AND guitar. However, EBMM still produced these guitars to the exact same specifications as the EVH signature, and continued to do so until the (currently named) Axis came to be, with the modifications from the original design.
In essence, this is the exact same guitar as a typical EVH, with the only difference being the lack of a EVH signature on the headstock. You can confirm that this took place by discussing this with moderators, forumites, and/or EBMM staff at their online forums -- http://www.ernieball.com/forums ."
You want to use that verbatim? Be my guest...I seek no royalties...just 10%.
To me, that just sounds so much better, and it takes any and all negative implications out of the mix. Truth be told, people that know this guitar don't even NEED to know this, as they already should. However, for those out there that look at your auction, and as they scratch their head, or pick their nose and wonder "hey how come that doesn't have..." this informs them, and makes them more confident in their selection, etc.
As far as pulling the auction, list it as "ended because the item is no longer available", then relist it later this week; if you catch any flak, you can use both the card that it was relisted due to a deadbeat bidder (you don't have to mention names), as well as the card that you reserved the right to end it because, say for example, you had an uncomfortable twitch in your a** about it, and that's that...you ended it.
Then, you go from there...if anyone else gives you sh*t, send them to me, and I'll do the dirty work from there.
SIDE NOTE: If you follow through, here's a great tip...set the auction to end early in the evening, i.e. 8PM PST, as well as DO NOT set it up to end on the weekend. I read some educational study a few years back (yes, the U.S. tax dollars at work, folks!) that researched eBay selling patterns, etc. -- items in auctions that end on a weekend day sell for 20-35% less than what it would go through during the week.
Think about it; where do a lot of people get on to the Internet? Work...does everyone work on the weekend? No. What do we do during the week? Very little, we veg in front of the TV, play our guitars, or...you guessed it. We sit in front of the computer. Is everyone sitting at home on the weekend? Absolutely not...also, the timeframe covers the area where people on the East Coast are getting ready to call it a night, and just want to check those auctions one last time. People on the West Coast have had dinner, the kids are in bed, and they're ready to roll for a couple of hours, etc.
That's the general logistics of the study, but you can see why it makes sense; when I eBay, I search out specifically weekend-ending auctions, esp. early morning weekend auctions, so that I can win while your drunk asses sleep.
I have seen it in action, and I've been involved in a few myself, so I can tell you that this theory and research definitely holds water. (my 5150 1/2 stack, Jan 2002, ended early Sun morning...1 bid, me, $800, OWNED!)I'll be selling that water later on this week, if you'd like to partake of the auction.
Steve, overall, not trying to tell you what to do, brother...we're just breaking us off a Bill O' Reilly, and we're "looking out for you".
Best of luck to you in your decision, and your overall sale of the item.
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SteveLINY
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I appreciate your help.
I will more than likely do that.
Of course, I have to see where it goes out of pure selfishness....LOL
I sincerely appreciate the help with this auction.
Thanks a million,
Steve
PS- I hope you don't mind if I cut and paste your stuff....
I will more than likely do that.
Of course, I have to see where it goes out of pure selfishness....LOL
I sincerely appreciate the help with this auction.
Thanks a million,
Steve
PS- I hope you don't mind if I cut and paste your stuff....
dwf1004
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I edited it a bit to add in some forgotten stuff, give it another read dude.
ADDENDUM: Maybe pull the auction, and ask dude who was bidding if he'd like to throw down on the G that you wanted for it, tell him that the auction was supposed to list it with a reserve, but it never carried over...lie heavily if you have to.
Then if dude refuses, then you can relist with a clean conscience, and not use the deadbeat card, but definitely use the ass twitch card to balance it out.
I love how I'm conspiring to "help you lie" to get through this...you know that my intentions are good, it's just a minor manipulation of the system...
ADDENDUM: Maybe pull the auction, and ask dude who was bidding if he'd like to throw down on the G that you wanted for it, tell him that the auction was supposed to list it with a reserve, but it never carried over...lie heavily if you have to.
Then if dude refuses, then you can relist with a clean conscience, and not use the deadbeat card, but definitely use the ass twitch card to balance it out.
I love how I'm conspiring to "help you lie" to get through this...you know that my intentions are good, it's just a minor manipulation of the system...
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