H In The H/S Stingray Compared to Single H

[spencer]

I know there were threads like this but I can't search for HS or H/S wiring.

I have always disliked stingrays with more than one pickup, I believe this was due to my belief that a Sterling H/S could do the Sterling H sound but a Stingray HS is wired in a way that it can't do the H... Is this true? I'm not quite sure if I made this up myself or not.

 

[syciprider]

The H in both HH and HS Sr4s is wired the same way as the SR4H. While we are at it, the bridge pup is in the exact same place on all variants of the SR4. Differences in sound can be alluded to the fact that no two basses will sound exactly alike even if they were made on the same day by the same guy using the same pieces of wood from the same tree.

 

[bdgotoh]

All Stingrays are parallel wiring only so they should sound the same when set to the bridge H pickup.

Sterling H models can do series, single coil, and parallel, but the HS and HH can only do series. So the two pickup Sterlings are missing sounds the single H can get. Fortunately my old H Sterlings always stayed on series so I love my HH Sterlings.

 

[spencer]

Hmm that's crazy, wonder why I thought that..

On the sr4hs or hh with the pickup Selector to the back does it truely only give you the rear h?

 

[syciprider]

Putting the selector all the way to the rear (position 1) gives you the pure unadulterated Stingray 4H sound. There was an animated GIF here in the stickies long ago that illustrated how the switch in the 2 pup models worked. Search for it and save it as a nifty guide

 

[bob atherton]

Interesting thread. My '73 Rickenbacker 4000 (single PUP) is much punchier than any of the many 4001's (two PUP) that I have owned. These are 4001's with the cap removed on the bridge PUP. I understand that this finding is quite the norm with 4000 vs 4001's.

Love my EBSR 4 with single PUP, punches through very well. Always thought that the 2 PUP versions lost the plot a touch with fundamentels. YMMV.

 

[spencer]

Hmm. Well thanks for the help. I have always been stricktly against two pickip stingrays, but had no actual reason to..

 

[Bloodfist]

I have always been stricktly against two pickip stingrays, but had no actual reason to..

The HH is a beast, if you haven't played one, go play one now!

 

[Stingray 4 Nut]

The HH Stingray has the pole pieces on the same level as the pickup covers and the H Stingray has the pole pieces bigger than the plastic covers. I think that could change the sound.

Sorry about the poor english.

 

[syciprider]

It doesn't matter as long as the distance from string to pole piece is the same on both pups. Magnetic fields are just that. Fields. They are not narrow beams that will be attenuated by a slight offset. Consider also that thin plastic pup covers have no magnetic shielding capability.

 

[baske]

All Stingrays are parallel wiring only so they should sound the same when set to the bridge H pickup. .

Since 2008 is the H of a SR5 parallel.
Before 2008 was it serial

 

[phatduckk]

The 2 pickup stingrays CAN do what the single H does. so no worries there.

The Sterlings, however, are wired different (no bridge humber in parallel option on HS & HH) so there's some a tradeoff to be made with the sterling.

 

[bdgotoh]

Since 2008 is the H of a SR5 parallel.
Before 2008 was it serial

SR5s have always had a switch that allows series/single coil/parallel choices and that hasn't changed.

Early SR5s had alnico polepieces with no humcancelling coil, then they switched to ceramic magnets with a third coil, then they switched back to alnico in 2008 when the Sterling 5 came out with ceramic pickups.

 

[Freddels]

SR5s have always had a switch that allows series/single coil/parallel choices and that hasn't changed.

Early SR5s had alnico polepieces with no humcancelling coil, then they switched to ceramic magnets with a third coil, then they switched back to alnico in 2008 when the Sterling 5 came out with ceramic pickups.

It's really just getting too confusing.

Just get a Bongo!!

 

[oli@bass]

On the sr4hs or hh with the pickup Selector to the back does it truely only give you the rear h?

Yes, they can. I did A/B several just in order to make sure. Regardless of any tiny differences you might find in the schematics and pole pieces and whatsoever, you couldn't tell them apart in a blindfold test. They only thing you could say is: This is a different StingRay. No more, no less. I have SR4 single H's that sound more different compared to each other than a HH and a H that have a very similar acoustic tone.

 

[spencer]

Thank you guys!!! I can't believe how many stingrays I turned down because to me they weren't real stingrays, this was based on pure stupidity I guess.

 

[Basspro]

Probably because most refer to "THE" stingray sound of recordings past where these were only available in the single H config. Now we have so many choices, and how sweet
is that!