HELLLP!! HOw much is a Musicman Silhouette Custom Really Worth!??

[Dante]

uh... the fret size is really just the size of the metal piece, not how far apart these bits are between each other.

also, 24 fret guitars have the neck pickup nearer the bridge, not a longer neck or frets... the distance between fret 1 and fret 2 is ALWAYS the same on a guitar with the same scale. (like all silos for instance). it plays exactly the same except higher up.

 

[Corwin]

Ah man, now I wish it was an Ebony fret board, but here are a few more specs:

The Neck apparently is Quarter sawn, rosewood fretboard, 25.5" scale length, 1 5/8" nut width, gunstock oil and hand rubbed special wax finish. As you can see it's a Double cutaway alder body, with a Black Ice pickguard. It's got a Dimarzio Tone Zone bridge pickup, FS-1 middle pickup, PAF Classic neck pickup, and special wiring a la Steve Vai, A Musicman vintage trem bridge, and Schaller M6-IND locking tuners.

@e-mate, it's nice to know I'm not the only one, lol.

 

[e.mate]

@ Dante & E.Mate - Ok, I realize that the scale length is the distance from the nut to the bridge. But I guess where I'm getting mixed up, is that I imagine a single medium fret, and then I multiply that in my mind by 22. & then I do the same with a Jumbo fret x22. ANd I imagined the one to be longer than the other. But that's because I'm not taking into account the fact that the frets get smaller as they move up the fret board?

Sorry, Corwin....it's not about math here The spot where the string touches the fret is always the same, be it small, medium or jumbo. It's only a matter of feel...so don't worry about the scale. It's about what you feeel with you hands...and you have made your decision there.

 

[Dante]

...not this time, my low-land brother

for some reason, when i read ur post, metallica's cover of blitzkrieg just started in my mind

 

[Corwin]

uh... the fret size is really just the size of the metal piece, not how far apart these bits are between each other.

also, 24 fret guitars have the neck pickup nearer the bridge, not a longer neck or frets... the distance between fret 1 and fret 2 is ALWAYS the same on a guitar with the same scale. (like all silos for instance). it plays exactly the same except higher up.

Wow, you just blew my mind! The size of the metal?? Weird. Then what's the short-hand (very punny,lol) for the distance between the metal bits of the fretboard if not fret?

And wait a minute, if the distance between fret 1 and 2 is always the same on every guitar of the same scale, why is it so much easier for me (a guy with smaller hands and arms) to bar an F-Major on the EBMM than a Fender Strat?

 

[e.mate]

Ah man, now I wish it was an Ebony fret board, but here are a few more specs:

The Neck apparently is Quarter sawn, rosewood fretboard, 25.5" scale length, 1 5/8" nut width, gunstock oil and hand rubbed special wax finish. As you can see it's a Double cutaway alder body, with a Black Ice pickguard. It's got a Dimarzio Tone Zone bridge pickup, FS-1 middle pickup, PAF Classic neck pickup, and special wiring a la Steve Vai, A Musicman vintage trem bridge, and Schaller M6-IND locking tuners.

Aaahh, okay...so that's all pretty much standard setup, except for the PU config. So that's, what the seller means with "Custom"...he exchanged the PUs Sounds like a good option....but if you don't like it, you may easily swap the PUs for something else. This Silo will sound VAIish, I guess

 

[e.mate]

And wait a minute, if the distance between fret 1 and 2 is always the same on every guitar of the same scale, why is it so much easier for me (a guy with smaller hands and arms) to bar an F-Major on the EBMM than a Fender Strat?

...because you have more space inbetween frets for the strange hand position that you're doing (I know what I'm talking about )

 

[Corwin]

Ok, I know, I agree I don't have to understand to know what feels better/I can play better on. It's just that I'd like to be able to explain to people why it's so much better is all. But I guess that's a combination of a few things- like the shape and texture of the neck for starters. I love the fact that EBMM don't have that plastic-type coating on the back that gets sticky when you sweat! I read that they use gun-stock oil, lol, that's pretty solid!

 

[e.mate]

for some reason, when i read ur post, metallica's cover of blitzkrieg just started in my mind

No, brother...absolutely pacifist on this side of the (almost non-existent) border

 

[e.mate]

Ok, I know, I agree I don't have to understand to know what feels better/I can play better on. It's just that I'd like to be able to explain to people why it's so much better is all. But I guess that's a combination of a few things- like the shape and texture of the neck for starters. I love the fact that EBMM don't have that plastic-type coating on the back that gets sticky when you sweat! I read that they use gun-stock oil, lol, that's pretty solid!

There you go....there's always more than one factor to make you feel good - especially with guitars

 

[Dante]

this just hit me: they should fix conflicts by having metal contests.

america would always almost win, just to see emperor suicmez "sweep" the prize away XD

 

[Corwin]

Vai-ish eh? I don't really want my tone to sound like Vai (God Love 'em!). I'm more of a Page, Beck, Hendrix, Cantrell, McCready, Thaiyl, etc. kinda guy. But I guess it'd all depend on my amp settings. I am playing through a 5150 though, lol.

So what do you think, deal or no deal? There's another model I'm very interested in as well at the guitar shop downtown for $1550. I'll post up the details as soon as I know 'em on that one, and hopefully you guys can help me out with that assessment as well .

 

[Corwin]

Alright guys, I gotta get some shut eye! But I Really Appreciate the Help!! Very Enllightening!

So final thoughts? Deal or no Deal?

I've got another EBMM in mind at the Guitar shop downtown for $1550. I'll post the details when I get 'em this Saturday. Hopefully you guys can advise me on that purchase as well!

 

[Corwin]

crap, sorry for the glitch in the matrix there guys. I didn't think that first message sent, lol.

 

[Dante]

shut up and buy it

 

[Corwin]

So it's a keeper then eh Dante! Alright, well I'll have to make my way down to the shop and try'er out this Saturday then! Thanks again for the help! Later!

 

[e.mate]

shut up and buy it

+1

 

[whitestrat]

@ colin- I love the Idea of 24-fret guitar. But like I said, I've got smaller hands/shorter arms, which generally means 24-frets means too much of a stretch to the 1st fret(bar chords).

Not true. Fret distance has more to do with scale length than number of frets. Your fretting stretches for the Silhouette will not be any different from that of a Fender Strat.

And wait a minute, if the distance between fret 1 and 2 is always the same on every guitar of the same scale, why is it so much easier for me (a guy with smaller hands and arms) to bar an F-Major on the EBMM than a Fender Strat?

Because the nut width on the Silhouette is smaller than that on a Strat. That, and plus the fact that the Silhouette is a smaller guitar than a strat, so it sits different on your lap, or on a strap. But that last point is not very substantial.

 

[Brand X]

Dude - Silos are the perfect guitars for me...had EVH's, Petrucci's, Morse's and i come back to my Silo's all the time....they ain't low-end at all and as someone mentioned - they are more of a work-horse guitar thay does everything really well. All MMan guitars piss over the vast majority of the competition - I don't even compare them to 'the big two and there Japanese brothers' because there is no comparison....the Sterlings play miles better than those things!

Quit yer yackin' and just get that Black Silo - that is the dogs nads - and if you don't get it I'm gonna see if they ship to the UK!!!!!

 

[Jack FFR1846]

Vai-ish eh? I don't really want my tone to sound like Vai (God Love 'em!). I'm more of a Page, Beck, Hendrix, Cantrell, McCready, Thaiyl, etc. .

You literally have 2 choices here. Well 3, actually....since these players and the guitars they use are so different.

Choice #1) A Musicman Steve Morse
Choice #2) A Musicman Silo (which you're on the road to)
Choice #3) 3 Guitars...a Musicman Albert Lee SSS, a Musicman Albert Lee HH and a Musicman Silo Special.

Your choice, man. Personally, I like the 3rd choice

Just a bit more information. You can email ernie ball's customer service with the serial number of the guitar and they'll tell you exactly what it is. Musicman used to make "custom" guitars. There's an Axis nearby me that's a custom.....has a burnt apple finish and a tone knob (which is NOT on the standard model) and the neck plate clearly says "custom". They don't do this anymore.