I need some advice regarding power conditioner to protect my amp. Unfortunately I was gigging last friday and after I finished playing the show everyone started shutting down and voltage hit a peak. My NEO 212 GK rig died on me. Apparently the crossover on the cab no longer works. Lucky for me the 1001 II head still works perfectly. So i need to buy a power conditioner obviously. I dont have much knowledge on these so Id appreciate the help. By the way I have a question... I thought high voltage could never kill speakers... I thought the amp would malfunction... burn out but never the speakers. Is it possible that high voltage would kill your bass preamp? Electrocute you playing... Id die if one of my rays or myself included would get shocked.
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EBMM7181
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I use this one, and have no complaints. It shows the voltage, and has two pull-out lights to light up your rack.
Depends if the amp just passed the surge on rather than stopping it there. Sounds like it went through your amp and right into the speaker crossover. Did your amp clip when it happened? The 1001 that I have has a power protection circuit on board. When you power it up does the light change color to blue indicating the amp has no problems?
As far as a conditioner. I have both the Furman PL-Plus and the Monster Pro 2500. The Monster is on the stage rack with all my best gear. I have had no problems with either.
As far as a conditioner. I have both the Furman PL-Plus and the Monster Pro 2500. The Monster is on the stage rack with all my best gear. I have had no problems with either.
The head the hk1001 rb II turnsup blue no problems. i tried it out with several other speakers and no problems at all. The amp clipped a ton before i turned it of. AND THE VOLUME WAS FAR FROM HIGH. The speakers never worked again and a tech guy told me the crossover was dead as well as something with the woofers and tweeters. If Id buy a power conditioner Id want it to protect my gk head, and pedal board... the furman looks good.
BTW anyone know if high voltage can eventually kill your bass preamp or yourself?
hankSRay
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I'm not expert on power conditioners, so anyone who is, please correct me if I'm wrong but I think they all do the same thing, which is protect your gear from power surges.
The more expensive ones usually have lights and LEDs and I think some acctually regulate how much power you get (120volts at all times) and others acctually filter out noise caused by bad wiring in the house or bar or wherever. I could totally be wrong about this though.
I have the same exact setup as you (GK 1001 and 2x12 neo) and I use the base model Furman power conditioner, it was around 60 bucks and haven't had any problems. I have my head, korg rack tuner, and shure wireless plugged into it and it never let me down. It's definatley a good investment.
The more expensive ones usually have lights and LEDs and I think some acctually regulate how much power you get (120volts at all times) and others acctually filter out noise caused by bad wiring in the house or bar or wherever. I could totally be wrong about this though.
I have the same exact setup as you (GK 1001 and 2x12 neo) and I use the base model Furman power conditioner, it was around 60 bucks and haven't had any problems. I have my head, korg rack tuner, and shure wireless plugged into it and it never let me down. It's definatley a good investment.
Frankie5Angels
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I have a Furman M-8. It's similar to EBMM7181's but without the display. Works great.
If your amp was clipping a ton, you may have just blown the crossover and it may have not been a surge that was your problem. Clipping is a sign you are trying to send too much to your speakers. Perhaps it was not a question of actual volume, but how clean the signal was that was going to the speakers. A dirty distorted signal can be just as bad as too much power from what I understand. Never the less, a power conditioner is a good idea to have anyway.
As far as a bass or a person being hurt by a surge, I have never heard of this. Naturally if it were a lightning strike or something of that type of power it may be able to come back and damage the bass as well as cause personal harm.
so basically that furman unit maintains a constant voltage to my amp and other gear. I dont understand about sending too much to the amp... Arent the GK 1001rbIIs made to go with neo212 cabs. Theyre a sweet sounding rig. I havent been able to get to markbass yet. I have to get all my gear down to FL and then have someone fly it down or ship it to me.
AnthonyD
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Another furman user here...
I use a Furman PL-Plus Series II and I suspect it has saved my a$$ on more than one occasion.
And the line voltage meter has helped my band avoid overloading weak circuits.
I use a Furman PL-Plus Series II and I suspect it has saved my a$$ on more than one occasion.
And the line voltage meter has helped my band avoid overloading weak circuits.
That particular unit does not control the voltage, per se; it only protects your gear from voltage spikes and displays the line voltage coming from the wall. There is a Furman unit that controls the voltage, but it is a lot more expensive. I had some knowledgeable people tell me that the voltage regulating units aren't that great for bass players because they can also choke off the amperage going into your amp. When you hit a low note, the bass amp can't draw enough power and your sound suffers, or worse: you cook something like a voice coil or other amp component.
Kristopher
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Doesn't a surge protector, like normal kind you can buy at Target or Walmart, do the same thing?
Yes, it does the same thing, but it depends on the sensitivity or the number of joules that the protector can stop. Those cheap ones at target and such will not burn out before your sensitive equipment is toast. The higher quality ones are very sensitive and will catch a fast moving spike. A cheaper one will not catch it soon enough if at all.
carpedebass
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Yea but they don't look nearly as cool mounted in a rack.
