Home Recording - Internet Collabs?

[Dazed]

So just curious. I stopped playing out years ago and started doing some home recording a few years ago. I ended up hooking up with a few guys online and we have recorded a lot of music.

So are you guys playing out still? Doing Internet Collabs? Just recording on your own or none of the above?

 

[SteveB]

Actually, I'm doing all of the above.

Mostly recording at home, and doing internet collabs with the other guys in my band, and playing the very occasional gig.

 

[Slingy]

I'm in an internet band called the rifflink junkies. I've collaborated with 47 people so far and helped mix over 200 songs, more like a small community. I'm getting too old to play out. Isn't the internet great?

 

[fly]

'cept for the odd time we get together........like we're doing this morning........my bandmates and i do alot of internet recording.......it's just so damn easy when we all have kids.

 

[Dazed]

Very cool guys! I find it a to be a blast. I have one child now and another due in a few weeks so my time is already thin.

Here are some of the tunes we have done. Feel free to check them out and let me know what you think. Post some links to yours as well. My favs are The Other Side, Instrumental Jam & Paradise.

Dazed Floridamusic Warren Peese at Internet Music Scene | iMusicScene or Internet Music Scene is an Online Music Distributor (OMD) featuring some of the best Indie Artists on the web!

Does it ever seem that after a 6 months or so you hate your older songs?

What the hell is with the links here????

 

[yesandno]

Interesting. Are there any organized sites or forums that are geared specifically towards collaborations?

I've given up trying to get a band together in my neck of the woods. Its an exercise in futility.

I'd be interested mostly in someone who can write lyrics and sing over my tracks. I'd also be very open to other instrumentalists so I don't necessarily have to come up with parts/ideas on the bass, keys, etc.

And what about copyrighting? How do you know someone doesn't take a tune for themselves?

Do you record some music ideas, however fully fleshed out, and send them to your collaborator for them to use to record their ideas and so on?

Or can you also play together live over the internet..in real time?

Thanks

 

[Dazed]

Interesting. Are there any organized sites or forums that are geared specifically towards collaborations?

I've given up trying to get a band together in my neck of the woods. Its an exercise in futility.

I'd be interested mostly in someone who can write lyrics and sing over my tracks. I'd also be very open to other instrumentalists so I don't necessarily have to come up with parts/ideas on the bass, keys, etc.

And what about copyrighting? How do you know someone doesn't take a tune for themselves?

Do you record some music ideas, however fully fleshed out, and send them to your collaborator for them to use to record their ideas and so on?

Or can you also play together live over the internet..in real time?

Thanks

There are a lot of collabs going on at iMusicScene.com and it is a free site. Copyrights are up to you. You can copyright your songs through U.S. Copyright Office.

The way we work is this way. One of us writes a track. That person has creative control (aka veto rights) of that song. So I write a track to a drum loop and add guitar, bass and vocals. I ftp the files to my partner who is the mix master. He ads additional guitar parts or keys. We then pull the drum loop out and send a track to our other partner and he adds drums. Then it gets mixed and mastered. We have discussions along the way of what it needs or what needs to be removed etc.

Playing real time is probably not feasible for a multitude of issues. The biggest being lag.

If you have some original work, post it on iMusicScene and listen to some of the other artists. Most of the time you just send a pm and see if they would be interested in doing a collab. There is also a forum for mixing help where some of the guys have volunteered to mix songs for people.

Just a thought!

 

[yesandno]

Great, thanks..I'll check that site out.

You know how it is. Sometimes all you may have is just a riff or a chord progression...or just a verse or a bridge or chorus sections and then get stuck and could really use some partners to complete it.
And sometimes you get lucky and the whole song comes tumbling out and you want most of the say in what it should sound like and maybe just need lyrics and vocals, like myself whose not really a singer.

I'm all over the place too depending on my mood. Sometimes its a simple rock tune, or jazz, or hard rock, or fusion/progressive or ambient/electronica or quirky alternative......whatever.

 

[Dazed]

Great, thanks..I'll check that site out.

You know how it is. Sometimes all you may have is just a riff or a chord progression...or just a verse or a bridge or chorus sections and then get stuck and could really use some partners to complete it.
And sometimes you get lucky and the whole song comes tumbling out and you want most of the say in what it should sound like and maybe just need lyrics and vocals, like myself whose not really a singer.
I dig!

Cool! Will look for you.

Personally I just play to a loop until I get something that sounds workable and build on it. I do not think I will be getting signed any time soon so for me it is just about fun.

 

[Slingy]

I use a software called Riffworks which is a minimalist guitar oriented recording program with built in online collaboration. Its about to become a paid service though.

It works like a real time recording session with chat bult in. Data is streamed to a server and to users as you lay down parts for anyone to mix and make changes. It uses a 6:1 compression ratio to make streaming possible. I believe theres a free demo on the site.

RiffLink - Guide

We post all of our work with a creative commons liscense which allows free sharing and retains some rights. But its mostly about fun.

 

[yesandno]

Slingy, thanks for that one....one more to explore.

I do have a XTLive but haven't done much in the way of hooking it up to the internet community.

I've already 'met' Dazed at his site. Its a great site.

 

[fly]

i don't use loops but,i do slap on a constant beat from my roland....right to the pro tools......add my guitars,bass,vocals or whatever.......then i'll play all tracks and record live drums right into pro tools.......then pull out the roland drum track at the end.

kinda ass backwards but.........it works great.....and my drumming is in time cuz of the drumtrack......

anyone want any drum tracks to their stuff........lemme know and you can send em to me and i'll drop them right in pro tools......add my drums,and send 'em back to ya'.

let's try something out fellas.......wadda ya' say?


anyone wanna try?

 

[Dazed]

Fly we are on the same page . The loops I use are the same repetitive beat that line up to the appropriate bpm click track. That way our drummer plays to the click.

Here are pretty much the loops/clicks I use. For pro tools you just add the track and hit ctrl+r to repeat it to the desired length. If you are not using pro tools the process is probably different.

yesandno glad you like the site. Build your artist page up and add some music. Listen to some others and see about doing some collabs.

 

[yesandno]

Ironically, Dazed...for me to get some music happening the first thing I need to do is get off the d@mned internet!

I procrastinate way too much on it. Did I ever mention the 8 foot stack of audio software manuals I have right next to me?

But maybe I can put up some of my earlier musical ramblings to get the ball rolling.

Cheers

 

[fly]

just registered Dazed....when i get a chance,i'll run through the site.

 

[metal_terrorist]

Great topic. I need to get into something like this. I can come up with riffs all week over just a standard 4/4 rock beat but I have the song writting/arranging skills of a Madagascar Fruit Tree Bat...

I don't suppose there are many metal related folk there? I don't play just metal but that's what I'm good at. I guess I'll find out the hard way.

 

[Dazed]

Hey Fly! Damn sorry I missed you. We had about 20 people in the chat room last night so we were all in there.

Hey Metal_Terrorist! Man I hit your site but I could not find a song to save my life lol. Like your equipment though . Would love to hear some of your stuff.

 

[metal_terrorist]

Hey Fly! Damn sorry I missed you. We had about 20 people in the chat room last night so we were all in there.

Hey Metal_Terrorist! Man I hit your site but I could not find a song to save my life lol. Like your equipment though . Would love to hear some of your stuff.

Dazed, I re-worded all my navigation links. All my music is on the 'My Music' link now. ( Was 'Projects' ). I went thru the metal category last night. That was uhhh... different, and not in a good way.

FWIW - Of the 35-40 songs/parts on my site, no more than 5 are really similar to eachother or any others. As you'll read at the top of that page, I don't write one particular style. I'm kind of all over. Feel free to leave some comments in the guestbook or wherever.

 

[Dazed]

Man i completely missed these. I am so used to seeing play links and flash players these days lol. You have some cool tunes on here. Tasty solos and a very diverse list of tunes. Stop on by iMusicScene.com. Would love to have you over there.

What part of columbus? I lived there as a kid and also in cleveland and cincy as well.

 

[metal_terrorist]

Man i completely missed these. I am so used to seeing play links and flash players these days lol. You have some cool tunes on here. Tasty solos and a very diverse list of tunes. Stop on by iMusicScene.com. Would love to have you over there.

What part of columbus? I lived there as a kid and also in cleveland and cincy as well.

Thanks for the kind remarks. I try not to be just metal.

My site is very low-tech. I don't know jack about web design, I just loaded Dreamweaver and learn by trial and error. I'll add a flash player eventually. The ones that start automatically are a pet peve of mine though. Know what I mean?

I've lived in Columbus all my life ( well, from 3 years old on ) on the north side mainly, along RT 161 near Cleveland Ave. I moved out to the east side, Gahanna/Whitehall/Westerville which is where I live now.

BTW, I liked a lot of the tunes on your iMusicScene profile. It took a minute to realize that you were actually on them. I thought at first you just produced or engineered those bands. Then I read the fine print. Ahhh fine print...